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It's difficult when it's trying to be perceived through a subject object perception. Subject(I am here and I know I'm real) Object(everything else is out there and I know it's real) Duality won't collapse because it's constantly being perpetuated by the belief that there is a separate self here experiencing everything out there. Any attempt by the separate self to rid itself of itself is futile because it simply doesn't exist. Sometimes what can happen is something other than the separate self hears this message and the illusion can Fall Away. This is what Liberation is ?

There isn't anything right or wrong and there isn't a 'ME' that's saying anything. You can't pin down or turn Non-duality into a teaching because it's literally everything. Yes I take care to contradict everything said, so it can't turn into a belief system.

@Anna1 thank you for breaking it down and explaining it so well...❤ It definitely feels like it's real and unreal. Real in the sense that it's as real as anything known... and unreal in the sense that it feels like random Boundless Energy with no meaning purpose or value whatsoever. Form and formlessness.. but not separate. Sandcastles appear on the beach they are still just sand.... waves can appear on the ocean it's still just ocean... knots appear in a rope it's still just rope. After the self fell away at a certain point here the line separating duality and non-duality dissolved and it was recognized the line was actually never there... it was just a crazy mad idea in my own mind...? Hope you have a good rest of your weekend!! ❤

@Anna1 I am honestly really starting to believe we are just evolved smart Apes from The Big Bang with runaway big brains that create all kinds of issues.... It doesn't mean we are all not still Divine energy... I'm just throwing this out there... I like how Deepak Chopra says it: Pure Potentiality It's not here or there it's not something that needs to be found it literally is everything....its THIS ❤

Sounds like dualistic perception... That was a joke... I'm joking everyone don't freak out...jk, jk, jk.... So basically you just don't believe that it could all be coming from the same source?

In this case then Prana is all that is real... Everything else is simply hope created by an individual that doesn't exist. So essentially life force energy(prana) experiencing itself, and thinking it's an individual in control of its destiny. There is no meaning there is no purpose there is no control there is no hope there is no Destiny that's the illusion of the individual. All that is real is life force energy experiencing itself. Everything else is unknown!!

No... THIS is all there is... There is no self, that's the illusion.. The you is the illusion.. All there is is THIS

The Atman is the energy itself... We are touching the same elephant my friend..❤

Freedom is not part of the illusion.... Freedom is what is left when the Illusion falls away... big difference. Check this out.. ? It's a deep message take some time...

Yeah there's no secret Vision you need to obtain or anything like that... It is simply energy looking at itself but believing it is a separate 'ME' character... apparently this Infinite energy has created a story about itself and it takes itself very seriously, in fact it thinks it's the most important 'ME' that ever existed...? but this game is known All Too Well by no one...

@traveler You got it ? Yeah totally, when you try to grasp it with the mind it's gone... it's like a chameleon but it's always there. This oscillation back and forth seems to run its course... You can message me if you ever want to chat... good stuff!!

It gets exciting for no one, that's what's being pointed out. When the 'ME' falls away what's left is everything. Liberation is freedom from the egoic self agenda driving the endless search. When it's recognized that you have been whole and complete all along and never needed to do anything, you will be home. You have never been apart from the Oneness of THIS. It was all simply an illusion. ❤ " The Separation Never Occurred" - A Course in Miracles

Well he has a right to state his opinion bra, no need to be so judgemental. Yeah it was so true ?

@Esoteric You should try a sex on the Beach. It's easy, smooth, and tastes amazing! ...xoxo

And if that were to happen, there would be complete acceptance of the situation and being would continue. When the 'ME' has fallen away, there is just things happening to no one and the sting of suffering is no longer felt. See the 'ME' character would try to create a story out of getting bit. It would say how could this happen to 'ME' why did 'I' get bit... this is so unfair. When there's nothing left to get bit, a story can no longer be created. That's when things get really exciting ❤ I'm here to help so if you ever want to private message me I will be available ? Have a good day my friend!!

I know these messages don't leave a leg to stand on or anything for the seeker so It can feel very frustrating. I get it!! Unfortunately there's nothing this seeking energy can do to get rid of itself because it isn't real to begin with. The very act of seeking perpetuates the belief in the illusion and on and on the hamster wheel turns. The trick is to get off the hamster wheel and put the illusion out of a job...❤

If you kill the messenger you don't have to take seriously the implications of their message.... This is something everyone should be aware of.... it's a narrow or broad tactic that the ego uses to dismiss points of view that don't go along with its egoic self agenda or you could say survival tactics. Essentially it's the opposite of maintaining radical open-mindedness during The Quest For Truth which ultimately ends up being the quest from nowhere to nowhere... It's much easier for the collective to label something as heresy then to dive deep into its inner workings. If members of the herd stray, they are easier for predators to pick off. Staying with the group has proved the best way to survive. "If a man wishes to be sure of the road he treads on, he must close his eyes and walk in the dark" - St. John of the Cross

@LfcCharlie4 very true...❤ we are standing on the shoulders of giants

Yeah totally you can stumble on the truth while studying fallacy, and discover fallacies in the truth. Then it's like s*** these things are the same haha....(ONENESS) ❤

I'm sure you are aware of this already but I don't adhere to any one communication or belief system or whatever... I've just spent a lot of time listening to their communication and I wanted to make sure it got portrayed accurately... as I also have much respect for their work. I do agree that their communication is unique in that it goes straight in for the kill. I get what you are saying but it almost sounds like you are also saying people need to be fed a load of BS before they will stumble upon the truth for themselves. This is a no beating around the bush or running on the hamster wheel approach.. Anyways yes there's a lot of good material here in this thread and this is exactly why these things are discussed in my opinion... there's a kernel of Truth in everything. Have a good afternoon as well my brother...❤ I'm Coming For That vegan Festival next year he he..?

Yes, it is constantly pointed out by Tony that this communication has no expectations and does not cater in any way to the seeker’s need for answers, processes or a path to follow. This uncompromising message can be both confronting and liberating. It basically points out there's no help here for the individual, because it's recognized that the individual is an illusion. This message isn't received by the individual. The goal is to toss it over the head of the illusory individual to resonate in the court of being. "there is no hope here for the individual, because that's the illusion" Yes climb back onto the hamster wheel and continue seeking for this is all the separate self can do anyways. But there is nothing wrong with THIS because it is THIS...?