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@jdc7733 Enlightenment doesn't end these feelings and emotions....it's fully inclusive and anything can happen although typically they do tend to slow down pretty drastically. The key difference is they are no longer personal feelings. The sticky "illusion of self" is no longer taking ownership and perpetuating the whole dramatic story. So these feelings can seem to arise but there isn't a "you" left feeding them energy. So they can seem to arise and fall away as quickly as they came! There can also seem to be an innocence & or unconditional love for apparent reality ❤️

What i'm talking about is ordinary it's not complex at all! All the seeker can do is continue to endlessly seek bro. Notice it! Its motto is "THIS is not it" It cannot begin to fathom its own unreality......it's way to busy seeking for a better experience in the future. Its the perfect distraction. Were just not talking about the same thing and that's totally fine! ❤️

Ironically when it does seem to occur, there's no one left having that experience or any experience for that matter. Then ego seems to return and claims ownership over said experiences! ❤️

Right, hehe! ❤️ Ironically it was around 2018 when this first started becoming obvious. Never the less, reality is always timelessly "THIS" or "Whatever seems to be happening" Nothing matters at all and so-called salvation;freedom;liberation is already the case which is why it seems hidden! That's the "open secret" bro ❤️

Its worse than that! The first incarnation never even happened. ? ❤️

No, but there can seem to be! Its not something gained or achieved. It's not advantageous for a someone. I would describe awakening as a realization which inherently carries with it an energetic shift away from upholding the illusory self construct known as "ME" Or The disentangling from the socially conditioned matrix of mind known as "ME" Only there's no one that comes out on the other side awakened or enlightened. Nobody benefits In other words its the end of the individual trying to achieve awakening! Its ordinary which can be a surprising let down for the self illusion! ? ❤️

Reality: The Best & Only show in town! ❤️

Look closely at this unsatisfiable imagination! What is it made of? What's energizing it? What are it's underlying motives? Is it just running on autopilot? ❤️

"Whatever seems to be happening"

Hey brother thanks ? & yes it's definitely been a little while since we chatted. We are all doing great here, I hope you and your family are all doing well also! & yeah for sure! When you get down to the brass tacks, there's nothing right or wrong with anything because there isn't a real universal law or meaning outside of these societal conditioned concepts! Jim Newman likes to call the ego "a reaction to a reaction to a reaction" etc.... I can see what he's talking about. ♥

@Inliytened1 hey thanks brother same to you and your family, all is going great, we have been traveling a lot! ♥

I get what you're saying for sure bro. ✌ It definitely seems intertwined with those survival desires as well. What I'm talking about is very subtle..... it's not like a huge shocking epiphany or anything like that......It's so ordinary. It seems that survival is naturally inherent for most living creatures(its just happening). My dog bailey for example definitely has a desire to survive but I wouldn't call it egoic, rather a natural innocent tendency. Animals don’t seem to suffer from chronic overthinking & judgments about self and others, self sabotage, guilt, regret, keeping up with the Kardashians ect....... IMO the ego is that heavily conditioned "sense of ME" character that's never satisfied. It's always seeking the BBD, bigger better deal. It's the identification as the doer & the thinker......that web of identification thoughts that arrise during self reflection. By default, satisfaction for ego/ME is very short lived because it would be out of a job if true satisfaction occurred.......no it must keep the body/mind constantly seeking for something better in the future. In other words the ego is that constant feeling that "whatever is happening is not good enough for me"... (the hamster wheel effect) Anyways thats just my two cents bro! ♥

I hear ya, I mean there's no real need to demonize Or embrace the so-called ego/"sense of self" because it doesn't actually consist of anything! It's not actually there within the body! It's an illusion! This recognition can sometimes take the wind out of the sail for this illusion of self...sorta-speak. Good interesting topic ♥

There certainly does seem to be an individual going through different states of mind until death..... no one can really argue that! But there actually isn't anyone going anywhere! During the spiritual seeking, this illusory seeker keeps attempting to find something that will alleviate its unquenchable desire to know WHY? It thinks by gaining enough spiritual knowledge, it will have an advantage towards finding or understanding this so-called ultimate truth.(spiritual ego) But the apparent issue is that there actually isn't an ultimate truth to find or realize........the idea of an ultimate truth to reality, is a conditioned human concept. Everything is already what it is. So it could be said that everything is already the truth but the numerous misunderstandings make parts of apparent reality seem false at times! Enlightenment is the end of these numerous states of mind and or misunderstandings. It's the end of all conditioned human beliefs such as truth; meaning; purpose; value; good; bad; right; wrong. But that doesn't mean the body forgets how to function in society.... if anything when the body is unburdened by all these ridiculous conditioned human concepts, life seems more free, enjoyable and relaxed! ♥

Hey buck, I think the negative bias about materialism is partly due to the fact that the ego/sense of self uses these possessions to enhance/inflate/feed its own illusion of the grandiose self! Spiritual materialism(spiritual ego) is by far the worst though. These spiritual seekers are completely convinced that the more spiritual knowledge they acuire, the better they will become! Unfortunately they are usually the most ignorant, stubborn and stuck in their way ego's you will come across. I've seen spiritual ego's get super nasty LOL! Very respectfully, Travis ♥

Razard86 I love your determination and willingness to understand these usually confusing topics about the Ego. ♥ These 2 videos both hit the nail on the head.....it's obvious that both Leo & Aaron put a lot of time and work into making them! ♥ - Cheers my friend !

There can no doubt seem to be all kinds of differences within apparent reality, non-duality attempts to point out that these so-called differences are ultimately illusory. (There is nothing separate in which could be different) It just isn't something recognized by the individual.....it's recognized when the individual dies! ♥

Luckily everyone here is already off the spiritual cliff! ? ♥

The thing about psychedelics & enlightenment is they really don't need to be taken over and over again for years. They are great for disrupting the habitual patterns of monkey mind or chronic overthinking within the first couple times of taking them. The real issue it seems is the illusory character (ME) hears about something amazing called enlightenment and creates a pseudo belief of what enlightenment should or shouldn't be like, & then becomes addicted to chasing that external materialistic fantasy. In other words this illusory (ME) character simply can't fathom its own unreality and or shake off these feelings of incompleteness. It can only continue seeking and jumping through endless spiritual hoops in an attempt to satisfy this unquenchable desire to feel whole and complete. There is a physical body, but the character (ME) between or behind the eyes that seems to be driving this body is completely illusory. And that recognition can seem to happen whether or not psychedelics have been taken a little bit or a lot or not at all! Enlightenment is not an addition for the dream character (ME) to use. It's the end of the needy dream character all together or rather the recognition that it was never real from the start. ♥

Yep, The truth is already everything. But it's not a small narrow something within everything, it's the whole infinite package. And so in that sense there's nothing missing & the truth is already whatever seems to be happening (what is). Misunderstandings and or confusion for the human organism doesn't make anything less of the truth. So truth is just another word like everything; what is; infinity; god!!! ♥

Yep and the weird thing is, there is actually nobody behind this runaway seeking train. It's as if the seeking energy is on autopilot. That energy can turn within sometimes to investigate who is actually running the show! Then things can get really weird haha ♥

@PurpleTree Maybe try turning that seeking energy within and figure out who or what is behind that unquenchable need! ♥

Yep, maybe what you see is what you get.... or maybe not ? ♥

@Barna if you dont already have one, maybe think about adopting a dog/pet. Me and my dog Bailey motivate each other. Just an idea! ♥

@Enlightement Hello there, The ego is the entire "web of self construct. It can't be destroyed because it's actually not anything real. It's more of an assumed identity of past present future memories & experiences.......it's very sticky and clings to everything in order to keep inflated....it's the experience of lack or separation....like something is always missing or incomplete This illusory self (me) never gets satisfied. Whatever the current experience happens to be, it will always attempt to find a better one in the apparent future including spiritual practices and such which is another form of seeking/spiritual materialism (to become awakened) Sometimes the unreality of this character is clearly seen through and there can seem to be a shift away from the energetic catering or upholding of this illusory self construct and it's relentless quest for permanent satisfaction. This is what's often referred to as enlightenment; awakening; nirvana; samadhi; liberation etc... But it's not a better state or experience of reality & it's not a something that's gained attained or acquired contrary to popular belief. It's the end of the opinionated and judgmental character always placing things into the good bad right or wrong categories...... it's the end of the knower It's the freedom that's longed for and sequentially was always the case. ♥