VeganAwake

If there's Liberation there good...❤ There isn't anyone here for anything to matter for..?

There's no Worth or value to anything... because there's not actually anyone here for it to be valuable for. The separate self is always looking for something... it needs to find the answer.. There is no answer because what's looking isn't real... it's Maya illusion of the self. The answer if there was one is recognizing the one seeking isn't real.... and there's nothing to find because nothing was ever missing.

Yes kindergarten is a great place to return to ... less conditioning...? Its a return to not knowing... Looking at the world again with childlike eyes...

Reviving these ?'s....

Looking back I can't believe nobody would even comment on this newbies thread lol...

White Rabbit stops digging when something recognizes the rabbit & rabbit hole aren't real...?

There is no real meaning purpose value or truth to anything. These are just illusory thought constructs created in the mind. "There is nothing to find, except “there is nothing to find”, which is never the result of seeking. There is no value in seeking, contrary to the seekers experience and value system. The person is trying to overcome this diss-ease of the need for experience through more experience. The individual is basically a sense of need. It needs the next moment, it needs hope, it needs meaning and purpose, it needs the experience of freewill and choice. That need is a positivity for more and more and more experience. As a personal experience, life appears to be an object or “a something” requiring meaning. The question or search for a meaning of life comes from the longing for wholeness, absolute freedom, which is unknowingly a longing for dissolution, an end to the person. The personal experience inevitably seeks for an answer to the question of “what is my life about?”. For the person there is no answer because this, what is, is not about anything. And it does not need to be about anything. The only solution for the person is the end of the person. The person cannot go beyond the illusory nature of itself and cannot help being an effect of itself: a seeker. Its search is for love, for more or better experiences. Everything being what it is, is already complete, already absolutely free, without any need of meaning. There is nothing missing and no need to find anything. When the dream ends, no one wakes up. The dream was the dreamers only reality. When it ends, there is no one left to wake up. The separate self is on a mission, it is searching for the impossible to know the end of itself, the end of the fear of death, the end of separation. The non- dual reality. In this search it will always fail. The situation for the sense of self is completely hopeless. As is its efforts to control its life by repeating the pleasurable and avoiding the painful which is the simple description of its entire life".

❤ it probably sounded like a smart a** comment. What was being pointed to is there's no help for the separate self that's on a Journey to find an answer because it's not real and there isn't an answer for an illusion. The conditioned body would naturally try to avoid being killed... But if the body was murdered it would not mean anything. It would be exactly the same has a shark eating a seal. There'd be stories created by imaginary separate individuals that would say something like what a tragic event and it shouldn't of happened. Those stories would be created within the dream that there was a separate individual born that could have died. There can never be a cessation of the never was...

Mixin up da approach to this everything business yo.. Yeeeaaahhh...?

Yo you either asleep in the dream seeking oh you awake in the dream Pimpin y'all.... nobody's out ✌

No more dreaming here only Awakeness. The everything that is sought for is recognized within the nothingness that it is. Yes. Unconditional love for no one.

True Liberation is recognizing the one trying to find something isn't real. It's literally waking up out of the dream that something needs to be found and there is someone there to find it. And as long as you continue seeking something from within the dream you perpetuate it's unreality... It will never end until you completely drop the illusory self... Running around in the dream forever isn't wrong it's just what apparently happens... But just to be clear true Awakening or liberation is completely shattering this dream that there is somewhere to go, and something to do, and someone to do it.

Its unknowable There isn't anyone actually here to ask that question or receive the answer( this one asking is the illusion or Maya) Yes all there is is BEING for No One.. There's plenty of ideas out there: God dreaming; Existence experiencing itself; Consciousness becoming conscious of itself; illusions within illusions; dreams within dreams. Admittedly the craziest thing of all is that the one looking for an answer isn't real....ahhh. Complete ungraspable Anarchy for nobody. It's Freedom it's Paradise it's Heaven its liberation... For NO ONE!! ?

It gets even Stranger Than This... The ME that seems consciously aware of something is completely illusory.... Consciousness, inquiry, stages, states of mind ...are all within the dream of the ME... it's Maya illusion of the self... What's even weirder is when this illusion apparently falls away... nothing changes.. It's exactly the same but for No One... You could say apparent reality becomes depersonalized(no me experiencing everything just experience itself)

Yes no help here for you!!

With these type of threads I always recommend Leo's awareness alone is Curative... The overall encompassing message is quite simple when you're aware of the mechanisms that create suffering for instance past abuse the dysfunctional characteristics of the ego as a survival mechanism cultural conditioning and so on.... It's not a guide to let the spiritual ego sneak in the back door and think that you're above everyone else its just simple unadulterated( does this word make sense here LOL sounded good) awareness... Simultaneously it allows you to work on your own conditioning and notice what triggers you and why...?

His disciples said to him, "When will the kingdom come?" Jesus said, "It will not come by waiting for it. It will not be a matter of saying 'Here it is' or 'There it is'. Rather, the kingdom of the father is spread out upon the earth, and people do not see it." - Jesus (Gospel of Thomas)

Yes the graceful rest in everythingness cannot be beat...?

Great short video straight to the heart of non-duality.. definitely thought it was worth a share.

@zeroISinfinity ❤

It's not like a brainwashing tactic or becoming a meditative pacifist. It doesn't mean that you necessarily approve or like what's happening, but just dropping the initial resistance to the current situation. Dropping the resistance takes the initial sting out of the situation and you'll suffer less while making further rational decisions. Liberation is recognizing that 'what is' happening is all there is... There's never going to be a better situation in the future... The ego constantly projects there's going to somehow be a better 'what is' up ahead... The trick is to beat the ego at its own game by asking it ......then what? Every time the ego projects a better next moment, ask it......then what? ❤

Love is just a word that could have infinite interpretations.. Love could also be described as a complete 100% Unconditional Acceptance of WHAT IS ❤ Suffering is caused by the inability to accept WHAT IS..

Thank you for the compliment! Enjoyed reading yours also.. Sometimes it's like running through the dark blindfolded... and a complete free fall other times ?

exactly... it was like what the f*** ...this nothing left is everything simultaneously ?