VeganAwake

“Forgive others as quickly as you expect God to forgive you.” “There is no love without forgiveness, and there is no forgiveness without love.” “Everyone makes mistakes. If you can’t forgive others, don’t except other to forgive you.” “Forgiveness and letting go are step back on our road back to happiness.” “Forgive peoples, not their words.” -Manish Kumar “Forgiveness doesn’t change the past, but it does enlarge the future.” -Paul Boose “Weak can never forgive. Forgiveness is the attribute of the strong.” -Mahatma Gandhi “Always forgive your enemies- nothing annoys them so much.” -Oscar Wilde “Let us forgive each other-only then we can live in peace.” -Leo Nikolaevich Tolstoy “Forget your past, forgive yourself and begin again.” “Life becomes easier when you learn to accept an apology you never got.” -Robert Brault

@LfcCharlie4 thanks bro ?

@LfcCharlie4 ❤ I like that... I'm the only one on the forum that doesn't know how to add those to my profile haha... It took me 45 minutes to update my picture LOL ?

It's purely just dietary. We don't eat animal products. Me and my wife and three sons have been eating vegan for around three and a half years. I definitely wouldn't give any lessons on it as we probably still unknowingly buy leather and other animal products unconsciously. Also for example if someone makes a lentil soup or something like that and there is some bacon in it I look at it as the healthiness of the lentils outweigh a few tiny pieces of bacon so I will still eat it and not waste the nutrition.( although I probably still avoid the big chunks of bacon haha)

I know what he was saying... I listened to the video and that's why I said what I said bud...❤ Someone getting it or not makes no difference to the Absolute.

What's being pointed to is whether you are attached or not, whether you are suffering or not, whether or not you lead with the right statement in your post, or weather you have directly experienced you are God, or believe it's unknowable, or think you have started a whole new thing on a thread has no meaning purpose or value whatsoever..."Nothing Matters at all in any way. Even if you deeply believe something with every inch of your being... it does not matter at all and has no meaning purpose or value whatsoever. It's absolute complete freedom ❤

That's a great video he is so close... there's just two things that I would point out: 1) Just because someone is or isn't living from a place of understanding or embracing "Nothing Matters" does not actually mean it now matters. This kind of reminds me of the duality belief... (just because someone believes in Duality does not make it true) 2) Embracing or embodying"Nothing Matters" is not like turning on a light switch. When someone is not used to living in such beautiful light they have to slowly become accustomed to it just like any new paradigm. Other than that yes spot on ?

I know I've read all these ideas they're definitely interesting ❤ I have to go to bed LOL

Are you sure, can you do any magic tricks then or anything? ❤ This is just what the left half of my brain thinks is going on.. The right half recognizes we are everything and nothing simultaneously haha

"Self-importance is a trap, because the moment we start to think that we actually matter is the moment when things start to go wrong. The truth is that you are supremely unimportant and nothing matters. All of man’s striving is for nothing; all effort is wasted. To realize that everything is meaningless is tremendously liberating, since it then leaves us completely free to create our own lives and ignore the plans that others have for us" - Tom Hodgkinson, The Freedom Manifesto

I know that's what you guys believe you're conscious of.. and what I'm saying is none of that has any meaning purpose or value whatsoever ❤ "Nothing Matters" is the highest teaching in the universe when properly understood.

What we are saying is basically identical the only difference is you are claiming to have had a direct experience and I'm claiming that it's unknowable. The reason "Nothing Matters" is the highest teaching is because even if you discovered you were an alien god from planet zxeronp controlling the universe like a puppet show... it would still have no meaning purpose or value whatsoever.... because nothing matters ?

@SOUL The implication of nothing matters cannot be understood by reading it on the top of the thread or in few posts from different people here and there on that same thread. I didn't want to leave you with your very limited understanding after your large criticism about it lol: All there is is what is . . . but what is what is? Well, there is no real answer to that question. However, it seems that what is could be just what is happening . . . reading these words, sitting on a seat, trees growing, sounds, feelings, clouds or thoughts passing by and so on. In simple terms these events just seem to be what is happening. It is suggested that what is is oneness appearing as twoness, the absolute being relative. It is the treasure that is longed for and feared most . . . the perfect lover and the grim reaper. It is of course the ultimate paradox, being simultaneously nothing and everything. There is no possibility of the essence of what is being described, grasped or known. The seeker attempts to be aware of or conscious of what is and immediately that function separates and objectifies and makes solid that which is wonderfully floating, effervescent and ungraspable. The essence of what is can’t be seen by me and so me never feels fulfilled because its experiences seem to have something missing. In what is is also what isn’t. This is the wonder of wholeness because it appears as both simultaneously. Everything that is something is also already nothing . . . there are not two! Everything is therefore real and unreal, but me experiences everything as only real. Within this illusion me attempts to transform this dualistic and unsatisfactory experience into processes such as “living in the moment” or “being here now” or accepting everything as “consciousness”. However, and again, the wonderful paradox of the play of wholeness is that the story of me is also what is. All of the dreams and hopes, processes and religious aspirations are only wholeness appearing as a separate entity rushing around looking for itself and also hiding from itself by already being everything. And in being everything, even the avoidance or rejection of what is is what is. So what is longed for constantly sings the only song of freedom that can never be lost or found because it is already all there is.

This is a non dual message explaining there isn't an individual for anything to be separate from... What's being pointed to is everything, take it how you want to... it's simply what it is for No One...

Nothing matters is already the middle way... it's Freer than free because when nothing matters you are free to pursue whatever you want or not do anything at all because it simply doesn't matter either way. There is no right or wrong path. This isn't a belief because a belief leads to something... this leads to nothing mattering which is already the absolute prior to you believing it's not the absolute. Empowering your experience in life with unconditional fulfillment has no meaning purpose or value whatsoever... It's completely identical to having no ambition in life whatsoever and sitting on the couch and eating cookies and dying of a heart attack at age 42 no difference at all. There is no higher teaching try all you want ? Good day to you sir❤ It's already zero it's already infinite it's already perfect it can't be added or subtracted it's what already is.

I look at things as whatever arises arises... If happiness anger fear guilt hate boredom arise it arises for nobody. There's no need to make a story out of it because it's just what's happening... just conditioning... As soon as any expectation in the mind is created, its setting yourself up for failure. Allow it to be...go with the flow... Then by doing this suffering is drastically reduced because you're not resisting what is ❤

@mandyjw haha yep agreed 4 sho..

There is a human being and a dog that could leave tracks and eyes to see the moon and ears to hear the night. But the one experiencing that isn't real... it's Maya the illusion of the self The one that says this is my experience.... that one isn't real. That probably doesn't help a lot...

@Nahm ❤ thanks man yeah its like family... sometimes dysfunctional but we always love each other ?

Yeah I'm pretty sure this is the weirdest Forum in the world but it's totally freaking awesome simultaneously... I'll skip the and meaningless comment this time ?

And for no one for that matter ?

I got you yeah I agree it's like debating whether God is real or not... It is quite interesting though that what people call Consciousness is exactly what the human body is observing from its two eyes. And of course only in its immediate line of sight ?

There are 3 things being pointed to: 1) THIS is it... 2) There is a separate sense of self inside the body, that is perceiving THIS through its dualistic perception.(this includes consciousness) 3) Nothing Matters... there is no meaning purpose or value to anything whatsoever. This is all that's being said. There are no individual ME's doing anything.