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VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes this is partially correct... What's ultimately being pointed to is it's an empty happening... A miracle yes Indescribable yes but there's no one here actually experiencing it ...that's the illusion There's no end result of anything.. there's no one here actually experiencing it ...that's the illusion. There is no individual here for anything to actually matter for that's the illusion... It can be said all day ...the Illusion in the desert is beautiful and meaningful and it has purpose and value... that's the dream... what Nothing Matters is pointing to is the the fact that nothing can ever matter for something that never existed. Hence it's an empty happening... When this is seen its shocking it's scary it's incomprehensible it's freedom but for No One... -
You will never find your glasses when they're on your head.... There can't be an apparent ME looking at non-duality and saying I get it, its all one (that's still the dream) You will never find the needle in the haystack when the needle is actually a piece of hay also. Someone thinking their a separate individual does not create duality... Duality isn't real because "the separation never occurred"-ACIM.. there aren't any separate individuals that's Maya illusion of the self.. If you go on trying to gain knowledge for an illusory individual... you will be searching your whole life. Don't keep polishing the holographic Corvette it makes no sense and you're wasting your energy.
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VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
“The greatest fear in the world is the opinion of others, and the moment you are unafraid of the crowd, you are no longer a sheep, you become a lion. A great roar arises in your heart, the roar of freedom.” -- Osho -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nice ?.... I like this one also "Life is an open secret. Everything is available, nothing is hidden. All that you need is just eyes to see" ~ Osho -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Words of wisdom...? -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes there's no agenda here so I may look into it more or not it doesn't matter at all..❤ -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yeah it's pretty close except for the fact that collapsing implies there was once a separation... "the separation never occurred" ? I like it overall though ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Something that was never there from the beginning, cannot ever create duality... duality isn't even real... it's a word that literally describe something that never took place. The apparent separate waves on the ocean does not create duality... 15 different sandcastles on the beach we're never separate from the sand or beach, it just appeared so... A mirage and the desert are not 2 because the Mirage never existed, it was an illusion "the separation never occurred" Three knots in a rope appear as something other than a rope but when looked at closely it's still just the Rope... there was never something other than the Rope. You could never say an illusion actually creates Duality because the illusion was never real from the start. Language is naturally dualistic in nature but besides that, how could....THIS or Nothing Matters imply duality? THIS is pointing to there's only what apparently is happening.. Nothing Matters is pointing to there was never a separate individual for anything to actually matter for.. Do you see how everything is tied into the illusory belief of the individual... You are saying something implies Duality when Duality isn't even real ...it doesn't make any sense. -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I understand what you mean illusions within Illusions dreams within dreams. This is why I talk about nothing mattering ? Recently been studying into Ajata Sunyata... or the recognition that there's nothing from the start. Here's a little piece of it: "Advaita tells us that reality is “not two”. Ajata tells us that it is “not even one". Ajata translates as “no creation”. This means to say that nowhere has anything ever come into being. Therefore, the entire universe (or universes) — and everything therein — has no reality. In other words, the ultimate condition is nothing, or nothingness. Advaita is to ajata, as milk is to cream. In Advaita, we come to realize that “all that is, is That,” or the Absolute. Ajata is where we subsequently come to realize that there is not even That (or the Absolute). Technically, from the standpoint of ajata, even nothingness is non-existent" -- Robert Wolfe I'm really not sure if this is even what you're describing but sounded similar ? I'm not sure why anything would be a disservice though because there isn't an 'I' -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes it's completely nonsensical. This video explains it quite well imo. -
VeganAwake replied to AlphaAbundance's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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VeganAwake replied to AlphaAbundance's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The ego is not your sense of self!! -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Remember Stepping Stones just use teachers and personal experiences as Stepping Stones You already understand the importance of saying I don't know.. that's already Leaps and Bounds past I am an individual that knows something.. It's an unknowing process and paradoxically the Unknowing reveals more... as I can tell you're already aware of this..? -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I'm not pushing a belief system on to anyone... so quite literally nothing needs to be acknowledged because there aren't any individuals. I'm free to be a hypocrite all I want it's called paradox... there's apparent work involved in recognizing there's nothing to be found. I've mentioned this several times... Something that does not lead to anything cannot be a belief. I haven't convinced myself of anything because it was recognized there isn't a ME ..hence why I talk about nothing mattering.. there's no one actually here for anything to matter for.. that's maya illusion of the self. I don't expect you to understand any of this because this is what apparently is revealed after Awakening occurs. It does not matter in anyway if you resonate don't resonate hate the message love the message misunderstand the message... None of it matters because there isn't a separate individual for it to matter for. -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Something that was recognized early on was the difference between intellectually understanding non-duality and actually embodying it... When the seeking energy within the body is still identified with as the ME, non-duality will always be observed from a subject/object perspective.. This person here is understanding non-duality out there... The concept literally cannot be grasped by the mind because the mind is dualistic in nature... Something beyond the mind resonates and hears this message and can awaken from its slumber... -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thanks man same to you and your family...love ya ❤ everything is wild and crazy including this virus. -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Like Osho used to say I am just an invitation... You don't have to believe anything anyone says they can be a stepping stone that's resonated with for a while and then move on. I like to meet in the middle....trust and be skeptical simultaneously. Be radically open minded and yet grounded simultaneously..❤ -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes this is accurate but not exactly limited to your definition of why. When Awakening occurs it's recognized that the individual never existed in the first place... that was the illusion... So in a nutshell non-duality or Oneness was always the case.... it just wasn't seen clearly from the perception of the illusory separate individual. There are still different conditioned human bodies walking around on an apparent planet but there is no individual inside of them that's the illusion of self within the body. "The separation never occurred" - A Course in Miracles -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That's why it's called an illusion(Maya) Identification with energy and thoughts create the experience of a separate individual here in the body experiencing everything else out there.(duality) So the one who is pointing, the finger sticking out, what's being pointed at, and all the surrounding space is the exact same experience(non-duality not 2) Experience and experiencer are not something separate. -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes the level of spiritual narcissism can get insane when you tack on the I am God belief on top of the egoic self agenda... It's great to have a living example of what not to do. -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes like lifting the veil and seeing clearly what was already there from the start... Yes I see what you're saying I like those two they're good... Not saying you do... but if you resonate with Tony's message but not energy...you might want to check out Andres Muller...great energy as well...super humble. Great share thanks ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Bud I'm honestly telling you, you have taken the I am God belief and stacked it on top of your egoic self agenda and have convinced yourself you are God. There isn't even a you to be God... I don't have any attachments so I don't know why you keep projecting that belief this direction... You also avoid any tough questions on your direct God realization experience... I'm sure you would just say something like it's Indescribable pure Bliss.. But this is just a non dual mystical experience... barely a glimpse it's not Enlightenment Awakening Liberation or anything of the sort. It's super noticeable also when your Paradigm gets rocked a little bit you start panicking... it's so funny to see... but I kind of feel bad for you also... I don't need my experience validated over and over again to satisfy some kind of egoic specialness requirement... I love you but seriously holy smokes dude you're stubborn as hell... -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
yes a lot of assumptions... it's just sensed from reading his material.. That's the thing about Tony he's not trying to transmit anything... any energy or path or method would simply be perpetuating the belief that there is a seperate individual that can find something called liberation.. It's kind of funny in Denmark they call him the Terminator because he's helped awaken so many people.... I honestly appreciate your feedback though a lot of good information shared here...thank you -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I've definitely heard this material before... I've heard this guy talk several times... not a fan... these guys all Advocate that there's some kind of path that can be followed or steps taken to reach the top(ultimate stage) This is not at all how Liberation works( quite literally the opposite)... Liberation is not a gaining of knowledge for the illusory individual... it's a falling away of the entire self structure/egoic self agenda driving the machine. There's a noticeable insecurity and lack of understanding in this statement below: This new sage can protest vehemently that there is nobody here, there is only no-self, I don't exist - but it just doesn't ring true. Who exactly is it who is asserting that they don't exist? It smells a little fishy. He sounds to me like somebody who had a deep experience but didn't quite reach liberation... didn't quite shatter the paradigm completely. He probably now resents others that did and makes a story that there are more stages past this because he's upset he didn't attain it or it wasn't full Awakening and it didn't stick. You will notice with these guys that there's no end... even after you reach loc 1000 you still need to integrate the experience and on and on it goes running on the hamster wheel... I'm surprised they haven't made another book called 2000 ? That's just what is seen here, it could be completely wrong.. Thank you very much for the information ❤ -
VeganAwake replied to VeganAwake's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Good points.. I've tried to explain the freedom the message ultimately points to... It's really an attempt to deprogram some of the deep societal conditioning... Meaning purpose value and things mattering, are like a wolf in sheep's clothing... on the outside they appear comforting until the egoic self agenda gets a hold of them and they become vicious taskmasters down the road. For someone that used to suffer from anxiety it would seem like the burden of things Mattering being dropped, would be a positive... but yes the message is completely misunderstood in almost every way possible. Conditioning runs deep. Thank you for the positive feedback... It may be apparently beneficial to break the message down and reword it differently.
