VeganAwake

@Meta-Man The thing is... everything you said I completely relate to and understand. I have never pointed to Jim Newman or Tony Parsons as the end-all-be-all. These are projections... I have studied dozens and dozens of spiritual teachers ...I have no belief system.. I'm not set in a certain belief... Every teacher and every teaching is just another piece of the elephant being touched... Like one of my favorite sayings from Leo ....you have to sort through the wheat and the chaff and pluck out the kernels of truth for yourself. You have great information and a very knowledgeable but your projections are many and they assume way too much and you know what they say about assuming...? I really do appreciate your input and I have nothing but unconditional love for all of you guys have a good day also

That's Duality.. it's all tied in together ?

It's funny how you try to get people on your side to team up... Scared of your Paradigm getting shattered bud? It does seem rather thin...

Again bud speak for yourself... It's wonderful that you have all this spiritual knowledge memorized. Intellectually understanding Awakening and all the other spiritual Concepts you preach does not mean you are awakened or have had an Awakening experience.( you probably had a non-dual glimpse and that's great) You can't go do RASA Sessions and have somebody tell you you've reached loc 1000 and that you need to integrate all your knowledge now to be completed.... that's not what awakening is ...that's some Fairy Tail within the dream of the self that can somehow attain liberation..trust.. Again this work requires in the emptying of the glass you can't come with your glass full and learn anything... You are falling into the worst trap of all ...thinking you are already awakened. This is absolutely the worst roadblock on the path to liberation. But as I said I can help you guys so that's the good news.

Things are only relative in the dream... There aren't two things happening here relative and absolute that's an illusion and otherwise known as duality which isn't real. I've been trying to point you to this recognition for quite some time now.. It's why I posted a thread about non-duality not being understood from the subject/object perspective. As long as you believe there is a separate you inside of your body looking out at everything else, you will most likely never truly understand non-duality and this is not a joke this is a fact.

Look bud... I'm not attached to an identity and a word called humiliation doesn't mean anything over here.. Those are your projections... You are just like LFC Charlie you intellectually understand how things work and have a lot of stuff memorized but you lack the actual experience... I can help you with that but you can't come with your glass full ...glass needs to be emptied to learn.

Then the material simply isn't for you ...I'm not looking for your opinion bud and you shouldn't speak for others that's very rude don't they teach you that in the UK. ? Like I told you before it's not just intellectually understanding it....it's an experience that occurs. You can't go around thinking you're awakened because you intellectually understand the knowledge or have memorized it... Otherwise Awakening would be easy everybody would just be studying to become enlightened.

My friend liberation is already at hand here. You have disillusioned beliefs of what Awakening or liberation entails... it's Freedom it's not a way that you need to live or teach or or anything like that... And if you don't care why do you keep posting threads I post on after me. Something obviously matters there..

And if there's one thing my spiritual ego detest, it's old stuck in their way individuals that use young kids and innocent unaware individuals to fulfill their personal specialness requirement... Instead of doing the Deep inner work required to recognize this sad deficiency.

Possibly a bit... but it's true.. I'm actually glad you chimed in because this message relates perfectly to you as well... except I would replace "loving spiritual do-gooder identity" with "I'm Special God Realized identity"

@Javfly33 I've heard rumors that he deeply frustrated in his inability to help awaken people.... no idea if this is true or not... He seemed very intelligent but seems to lack the ability to explain things to the masses in an understandable way. This is partially why I became such a fan of Leo's actualized.org videos ...he explains things clear and understandable the first time..

Pure gold... he was so authentic. He says if you brush aside all that nonsense then what are you? Pay special attention to what he's saying at 2:20...and 7:15 on...

It's time to move on bud, you simply don't understand what THIS is pointing to.. I'm starting to feel sorry for you.. I would caution you to be careful, I can shatter paradigms and expose individuals to the truth about their underlying need to feel extra important and create loving spiritual do-gooder identities to constantly reinforce those needs. I will give you a hint: It doesn't end up being about others best interest unfortunately...

I was trying to say I couldn't comprehend what you were talking about? My phone turned it into comprende ?

Me no comprende?

I wanted to see the dinosaurs though ?

I mean anyone can say it's ignorance... yeah that's true but that's like saying the dehydrated poor fool in the desert following the Mirage of water up ahead is ignorant. Yeah it's ignorance until it's recognized it wasn't real. What's being pointed to is the misidentification still has an effect... that's why it's called an illusion it isn't real but it still has an effect. Ignorance or not. It's not a real entity to be used as a bypass... it's an illusion that has the power to cause effect... but it was never duality. "The ego construct wants more money, more power, more love, more of everything. Those on the so called spiritual path desires to be more spiritual, more awake, more equanimous, more peaceful, more enlightened. Whenever there is a desire to attain something, you can be sure it is the ego construct at work. The ego construct is nothing more than the impulse to repeat. It is simply the path that energy once took, and the tendency for the energy to take that path again, whether it is negative or positive for the organism" -- Samadhi (Maya illusion of the self)

But it can't be denied there's an apparent effect of the apparent ego before it's recognized it's unreality by no one...

After Awakening it seems to have been a misidentification with nothing... "All bad qualities centre round the ego. When the ego is gone, Realisation results by itself. There are neither good nor bad qualities in the Self. The Self is free from all qualities. Qualities pertain to the mind only" - Ramana Maharshi

Ego and the Self – Osho. ... The ego is a substitute, it is a pseudo entity. Because you don't know yourself you have to create an artificial center; otherwise functioning in life will be impossible.

Not sure about that...don't think so...the filmmaker describes it as the outer manifestation of his inner experience..

@Nahm..I know we have are silly Alfa male squabbles brother but I want you to know no matter what... you're appreciated and I have nothing but unconditional love for you always ❤

Realize who you are not: In this step we will be coming to the realization that No thing you were ever told about yourself, believed yourself to be or labeled yourself as, is the True Self. You will realize that these labels you've allowed yourself to believe are nothing more than opinions, ideas and perceptions and are not your True Self in any way whatsoever. For example: You might think you are Tommy Sanchez that works at the marijuana dispensary on 12th street in Rio De Janeiro Brazil. You have low self-esteem and your boss is constantly telling you, you are too slow and have poor work ethic. You also feel like you are too shy, judgemental, angry, abusive, pushy, and critical towards certain employees. You also believe you are nervous, stubborn and rude. Notice that all these layers of labels are simply ideas, perceptions, beliefs that you have allowed yourself to be conditioned with since you were a child, they are not real. One person might describe you as pushy and irritating and the next might say you were the friendliest employee that has ever served them. See it's just a bunch of opinions and perceptions. Illusions of words. Your name Tommy Sanchez is just a bunch of letters put together to make a distinct sound. None of these labels, letters and words are who you Truly Are. If you worked in the Bahamas they might think you were the fastest employee ever and would have a whole different group of perceptions to label you as. See, the "l" you believe yourself to be, are simply perceptions ideas and beliefs. Not you Not True. Drop the Layers and Labels: Next you are going to draw a diagram like the one provided and label it with all the negative words you believe about yourself. Try to do it on a big piece of paper and at least have 15 labels or more. When you are finished labeling you are going to imagine that every label on your diagram is a layer of clothing you are currently wearing. Next as you look at each label on your diagram, imagine you are removing a layer of clothing for each label. Start Shedding The Layers .....take every single layer off and throw it to the side and completely disattach from it. As you cast each layer to the side understand how these labels are just culturally conditioned ideas from your current belief system surrounding you. If instead of Brazil you were born in India or Pakistan you would have a whole different group of labels you would believe about yourself. When you are done shedding the layers, deeply Ponder and look within and ask yourself, if I am not all of these labels and beliefs I thought I was. "What Is Left, What Am I Really Then"? Step 2 will be coming soon ❤ ❤