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Its you talking with your toes that is is going on right now. Thinking "they" are "other"

Interesting! gonna check this out! Thanks for sharing. Though it is a propaganda channel. Still worth a shot.

@RichardY Yep. Same thing there, Its always dystopian .... and on the other side of the table sits Orwell. As I see it, its a play between the poles of No-Government and Full-Government. Both ends being dystopian. That's what artists want, the ends. Its a smart mix that we actually want.

I still do use it, its just for professional and public things. That's all. But not for any other things like browsing, visiting and reading sites, forums, slack, discort, shopping, banking ect ....I do use the other stuff. I don't care if they know what kind of porn I watch or what I ate. I'd let them sit in my room and watch me and follow me all day if they want. Its the massive profiling capability, the ability to predict behavior and subconsciously manipulate it to their liking is what I don't like. Witch it has clearly utilized on multiple occasions and what is even worse, it got away with it . Imagine.... if the next Stalin or Hitler got hold of all of that already cooked data. It will make Orwell look like a kindergarten book writer. Its by our actions that we prevent these things.

Cyberpunk is the only place I've seen full libertarian societies btw. And its a sci-fi genre. This is how its healthcare looks.

I feel your beef @Shqipe Its been doing that quite a lot recently. And blame it on the AI in the end. Its good that you still have a choice ! ___________________________________________________________________________ There is a digital-hygiene drill: Delete Chrome Install Firefox or Brave Switch to DuckDuckGo, Startpage or Bing Use Protonmail or Tutanota instead. There are also other alternatives, these being the most popular ones. _____________________________________________________________________________ I felt it is a good personal and ethical choice to - not give my life-force to these manipulative companies. And give it to other more respecting and ethical companies. And who knows how ethical those are. Just as google downright lies. So can these. Still. I think its worth the shot.

-Yes mate, you just observe the blackness that is behind your closed eyelids, while not attaching to body or mind, you just observe, just watch it. If bodily sensations or thoughts come, gently let them go. -If you continue watching it, you'll notice that there is a depth to it. It's 3D, volumetric now. -And after a while it will start moving into your memory impression space, It is a space usually found about 20cm to the front-top-rear of your head. (try to pinpoint where are your daydreams happening when you walk, that is the spot ) You'll notice it as you will no longer be just the point-observer, but the void moves into you. Its like you are glued to it and are not sure from what point are you observing it. That is the space i talked about. You want to get there, and sit there. -If you want to try it out, go slowly, do not expect much. It took me quite a while to get there, and distinguish between these states. -Note this is just a map, all you have to do is observe the black, while not attaching to anything. -A good sign that you went far is when you have difficulty remembering how you got there: sat on my bed to do 20 minutes of meditation. Your memory will start to get wonky as boundaries between time and space dissolve. And when you come back you'll be surprised that you were sitting in that spot, that city, that apartment for few seconds. You always have that 5% of it if you want to pull back. Or just, snap your fingers and open your eyes.

@Leo Gura Quite a laid down guy. Seems like pretty healthy version of green. Would love to see more stuff like it around. Subscribed. Also some humor.

@Pav I edited and removed that part out of the post. Felt it is better to open another thread in the future. And it was too much for it to be here. I do strongly agree with that and feel that this is something that should be addressed. It is easily dismissed and not even perceived. Thus its name. Its almost the norm that these "stages" are collapsed into a extremely simplistic memes around here, maybe it is the nature of the way we talk, write and read who knows. They are still memes, but way bigger and more expansive. We need to respect that. I'll try to frame it in a non-political way. Maybe "The shadow trough development of consciousness " or some similar name, will see. Might also do, "integral shadows" threads for each stage. Will try to go lighter.

@Serotoninluv Hm, I though I was quite irrational. A lot of love on your path too. ?

@brugluiz Its a made up buzz-word no older than 40 years. People by themselves would have never came up with this phrase. It was placed into language. It didn't come in naturally, because it has no use, it is not real. Thus it is not an accurate term, it doesn't describe anything. So it is understandable why so many people share your confusion regarding this word. It is always fueled by shadow material. It can not be otherwise. There will always be resistance towards shadow work. sorrow......It is so sad to see the sorrow, that contraction of self, and you know there is nothing you can do about it, its in your face. You d want to slap them and then hug them. But you know you cant. Neither of those things. You'll end up in Jail. So yeees understand them, but do not act upon it much. It would be wise. Note that this word was placed, and people stumbled upon it, picked it up and are now suffering. It is a bad pair of glasses. You can rarely help anyone and will always get damaged or glued up in the process. Do not let it get close to interfering with your growth. At least that is what I've seen. Id say: 1. Forget about the word 2. Try to understand why they feel that way. Why they do all that stuff. 3. Wall your mind if needed, as things might get harsh and sticky. You can get in deep trouble in 5 mins. Also close your aura. 4. Ace what you do and love in life! I keep these mind-walling notes in mind: It is always used only for self serving ideological purposes. You will always be mislead. You'll find that only toxic atmospheres find utility in this word. Blame/victim mentality is always at play. It is best advised to keep distance with people that find it useful. You don't want to get tangled up in their mess. There will be a lot of negative vibes. And any form of chatting will turn into this. It will stop existing, as the structures that do use it will collapse on themselves. Don't be there. Linking to previous point. Do not behave as it exists, no one does, no one can You are just wasting your energies. Because it is not real, even the people that use it can not behave as it is real. Focus on other things.

True. Its a lesson spreading from purple and goes onward and onward.... Empathy, compassion. But you'll feel a lot of cold hearts in yellow. That is for sure. Yellow knows about all the things people are made off, it sees them on the spot. From their capacity for light, to the pure evil they can be ....it also does statistics pretty well. It wont empathize with everything that moves. Its stuck in its head again. It will bite if threatened. It has integrated shadow, from the beasts of old to modern man. It will go naked and hunt mountain goats with spear. It will kill, laugh, cry and than roast that goat. Point is. Don't assume yellow people are always warm, they can become quite cold ,distant and intellectual. Its a weird mix. If they are lucky to had some psychedelics they will be more compassionate. Or stayed in green a lot more you may get that. Maybe meditated. But it is not the rule. Tha is why I said green in yellow best manifests as "deepening", it can sink into an idea, tree, sky, people, plans ect. There is your Nietzsche. He did it all the time. Peterson is on the mid-point I would say, heard him talk about people. Its an unexpected plot twist.

The quotation is head on. You just have to dig trough his stuff and find it. The point I made was very far from orange way of thinking. It is very green in fact. It is showing of the perspective of how a person framed in such a context will look different. Orange doesn't bother with contextualization. It is alien to orange. Will attempt to understand and care about it, but will skip it at first glance. How than do you see the red in an yellow person than, ofc its very sneaky. It surely doesn't look as pure red, just jacked...... into the USB port of Yellow. It is way different, subtle , changed and is constantly blending. Same with green in yellow. It should not remind you of green. Its blending and flowing. It softens things up. Gives you the ability you sink into things. Ideas, people, nature, emotions, art. It is not that you copy paste values. Also his psychometric profile is misleading people, he stated that: He is high in compassion, but very low in agreeableness. Which means you like people a lot and can feel them, but you hurt them being disagreeable and feel their pain. I can resonate with that, because I have the same profile. its a bad combo.

Cool, I'll bookmark this one. It seems the switches work both ways. Just as you can go activate stuff from lets say, etherical>physical, activate chakra=brain/body changes. You can trigger brain changes=activate chakras/kundalini ect. I also do this interesting - " intensely gaze at the hand, until it stops being the hand" and the result is a snapshot of 400 mcg LSD. That is not a hand, wtf is that ???? Good to hear you are good @khalifa

@Serotoninluv I respectfully disagree. I do not think that you can have access to that many opposing perspectives and still be orange. Its just too much. And some are way off mythic or rational charts. You just cant have that as orange. He also understands their cores quite well. goes into relativist grounds a lot too. Its just that he doesn't stay there, he grounds them in other completely different ideas. Orange cant play with this amount of diverse ideas. Orange cant even perceive them my point is. Also I'd add that I do see that he has integrated green. Its something that you notice when you watch his non-political, non professional videos, often about family, children his Indian community, QA, even some of his non professional psychedelics stuff, . I am saying he transcended it and had thrown away a lot of useless stuff green carries. You don't bring everything when you transcend. There is always junk in the previous stage. We don't see the green in him because we see him in these political TV shows that are fueled with figh-or-flight predatory mood towards him. And the implicit anti left projection that is there. Projection to repeat. There he pulls red, he also explains why. You can see him form a orange-red bridge in some fueled debates. Only T2 can go to a stage at will. Its a side-effect of an integrated shadow. Still I would say he has integrated pre-green stages better than he has green, thence the contrast ( buffed up with external political BS)

@Serotoninluv That is where we differ. I think that because he can switch between orange, blue, red ways of thinking in an unbiased ways, adress the issues and benefits of those forms of thinking and on top propose an integrated combined way of thinking, only implies that he is Yellow thinker. And orange would bash blue, bash red, bash green. With its !reason! Sam Harris would be a way better of an example of orange centered thinker i would say. They disagreed on a lot of things. Just because of Sam's pull towards orange. His talks about Metaphysics, Heidegger, Jung, Religion and many other clearly demonstrate that he has transcended orange thinking. And I do not believe he is so attached to his thoughts, its just that he thinks so intensely and grapples, that it seems like he is. The debate with Slavoj Zizek is a perfect resent example I would say. It may seem like he has no green in him because of his beef with them and all the sewing and healing of meta-structures in blue-areas he has to do .... that makes him look like a T1. I'd say he has integrated green, its just that he has thrown away all the useless aspects or transformed them eg: He is pluralistic, altruistic, communal, appreciates diversity (of thought), is exploring alternative diets, respects tribal customs and contributes in them. ...ect. And has thrown away the PC, equity and all the other non functioning things.

@Aliman He gets into Heidegger-ish territory in his personality lectures, check it out: Also some of it in here. @Serotoninluv you may also want to poke your head in. These are good examples of him talking of the downsides of : "external, universal, objective reality" viewpoints and the same ways of dealing witch consciousness and being. And the psychological implications of using it as your primary axiom. @Aeris -I'd say he embodies theoretical post-modernism and uses it all the time and is perfectly aware of that. -What he is against is the applied post-modernism, applied in the sense of adopting it as a world view. Something you see with youth students or young professors. It is not possible because of relativism and pluralism. If adopted as a world view (and people will do that and not use it as a tool ) it collapses onto itself and regresses to blue totalitarianism. Something Ken Willber points out on multiple occasions. Its an impression you get when you watch more of his stuff. @Etherial Cat Yes, he is quite often exposed to Yellow ideas, and he swims like a fish in yellow waters. You rarely see him talk with that high gear of people. So it is best seen in his personal lectures. Also some, but not a lot of turquoise insights, borderline non-dual. This political talks he does attracts just so much projection. He is not best represented trough it. Also those sparks of existential anger and bad top-down stage lighting make it worse. He has let his tongue loose sometimes and offsync things. He is not a knight.

Also this:

Interesting and useful to watch, also you got to love those statistics

I am aware of these things you pointed out, in fact everyone is. We see it all the time. I made post in the spirit of the things we rarely see. Really high quality people will get hurt by the same sword. We need the best on top. And if you really are high quality, you will get on top and be rich, doctor, musician and what not. The rich scammers and corrupted people will always find ways to dodge. That's how they came there in the first place. We might just export our problems elsewhere. Taxing needs to be way more contextual and complex if we are to do this integrally and fairly. If that is even possible. @Dwarniel I love the Scandinavian models, been in Denmark and Sweden for some time. I'd say things are wayyy better than what other European countries or the US have. A lot of care for its citizens, a lot. I love that. I would like it even more if it was more dynamic and contextual. It has also been extremely effective at producing equality of opportunity, witch is neat. I'd say it still has things to work on, deal with that depression and suicide spike for eg, a result of flattening the hierarchies, thus hacking various biological systems. Cant wait to see how will they solve that!

This is the basic CNN reporter grade of demonization, filled with lies and ego. Why is it, I don't have a damn clue. To connect him with the alt right, victum mentality, radicalization, propaganda .... is low and lazy. Also I do live in a quite red/blue country. Its defending green/leftists I do here for breakfast. Don't mark this as if you are dealing with some teen Peterson fanboy. I do it because I do not like misrepresentation of peoples perspectives. If it were a better atmosphere in that regard here. I won't be bragging about it. The alt right downright hate him, they call him a Jewish Shill, Juden Petersen and make tons of memes about him that you can google, for obvious reasons. I've seen the discord servers, reddit, you-tube channels of the alt right, I have friends that are there, he is a hard taboo topic, they hate him. Why hate him, because he is NOT against the left, never, ever ever has he said such thing, only good things about it, he is against radicalization, it is the radical left that currently has the upper hand, makes tons of noise and is unconsciously creating the alt-right. He has criticized the alt-right on multiple occasions. The bigger reason why they hate him, is because people LEAVE the alt-right because of his work, that is the fact you got to deal with. They transcend ethnocentric and move into orange. His work helps heal the unhealthy red and the unhealthy blue. His most known meme is "clean your room", and he also uses the word responsibility maybe 50-100 times in 2 hours, that is 70 % of what he talks about... . I cant help but wonder .... how would someone put him in the category of victim mentality promoters . And how does he help in radicalization. I do have a theory on why you saw him on PragerU. I would happen to agree with Ken WIlber on this. If you see orange getting crushed by green and blue, you go into orange, expand it, heal it,e, than you go into blue, heal all the damage in there. Firstly you repair where the critical damage is (orange), than you go repair your house from the bottom up. I am pretty sure he knows exactly what he is doing with his words. Maybe it gets out of hand sometimes ofc. Having all these years of pressure. But if all you know are some anti radical left ramblings about him and that is like 5% of what he does. I am sure you would get that impression. Fact is, he has done way more teaching and healing in a huge diverse spectrum, than damage. And all you hear is damage, that what the news want you to hear. This will be understood in the next 10-20 years. I'll just like to think of this is that you are having a bad day. Ideology swept over you, you'll work it out. We all do get low sometimes, no problem. But I am afraid it is going to bite you in the a*s if you go on like this, Especially when you mention something as out of sync as this.

Watch these on acid.

Or Cthulhu, calling you. Sometimes it gives me chills .. Speaking of Cthulhu, has anyone seen this type of thing, Tentacle like, dark red, floating? This is a perfect representation. I've seen them couple of times, once extremely vividly while meditating with quartz cluster and labradorite, always wondered what they are. It is almost exactly like this, like you are seeing it in front of you, floating in the volumetric void, the size of a small plate. Maybe Lovecraft's work is based on this very same thing, who knows what he saw.

All the amazing ways people express love. A man looks at the fish in his hand drowning in air He knows he was it once so long ago gasping, breathing in air How is it like that.

Neat, I am watching it now. Thanks for sharing!