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@itsadistraction This makes no sense and goes contrary to my direct experience of life. Why there is no difference between things?

There is an obese greek mother who has 3 children and uploads content on YouTube. I stumbled on her content few months ago, and I was watching it mainly for curiosity/understanding & entertainment reasons. For example, it was interesting to watch her reactions, when other people negatively criticized her for feeding her children a lot of junk food.. One of her responses was that the children will eventually get bored of this junk food as they grow older........ & also she doesn't want her children to be jealous of other kids at school who are eating junk food............ Anyways today I saw that she was live streaming and I entered the stream. I asked her 2 simple questions and I got two extremely low consciousness responses... 1st question was if she believed in God. Her response was "what kind of question is this?? Of course yes".... 2nd question was what did she believe happens when people die. Her response was "what kinda of question is this? they die. " .......... These two extremely bad responses made me realize more how underdeveloped most people are. My problem is that I expect everyone to be as developed as myself (I do not claim to be super developed either, I guess I am the high end of conventional stage). Many people do not seem to care at all about metaphysical questions... And they react badly when you ask them such questions.. They are super quick to dismiss you for some reason.. I got annoyed by these stupid replies and I don't understand why she replied with this manner. Maybe someone can enlighten me.

@Bobby_2021 I don't agree. Her mind probably didn't even go that far to conclude that she doesn't know. She dismissed the question and gave a quick nonsensical response. She didn't even think for 1 second what I asked her. That would take too much effort for her. You can definitely tell someones development by the responses he/she gives you.

@Bobby_2021 Her response about death was bs. She didn't even respond to my question.

@Juan Yes i agree. I try to be compassionate and understanding as much as possible. But I think it is inevitable that we are gonna get hurt emotionally to some degree by the stupidity of others. It bothers me mainly because I do not understand why some people behave the way they do..

@Leo Gura Lol ? Yes I find this to be more and more true every day. Why do some people are quick to dismiss you when you ask them some metaphysical questions?

Leo, you're an intelligent man who ingests various chemicals and sometimes unknown chemicals to most people. This all seems like an oxymoron to me.. I'm not personally judging you. Quite the opposite. I kinda admire this fearlessness about you (I know you're probably super careful too). I am genuinely trying to understand your thought process regarding ingesting various compounds. You could have played it really safe and only took the traditional well-known psychedelics and never messed with the newer stuff. I have tried only mushrooms, Lsa, LSD, & dmt. But I really want to explore other psychedelic compounds as well. Fear is holding me back from trying other psychedelics.

Read carefully my story so the same pattern does not happen to you. A month ago I experienced an unexpected drastic shift in Consciousness. This lead to drastic changes in my life. The changes were too much I think for my system, because I could not sleep more than 2-3 hours per day.(Physically I was feeling fine though). This made me seek professional help. A group of psychiatrists (3 of them) prescribed me Olanzopine & Lorazepam. One of the doctors told me that you'll sleep very well with these medications. Problem is that he didn't warn me about the side effects. I've had experience with Lorazepam but I had no clue about Olanzopine. And I made the mistake of not researching enough of the drug. Maybe because I knew I wasn't willing to take the medication more than a month.. Anyways.. After 1-2 weeks I began noticing my weight increasing. After 3 weeks I had incredible uncontrollable urges to overeat carbohydrates and I noticed that even when I was eating like 10 egg whites & including other protein sources I was not getting full no matter what... This was so frustrating and caused me enormous misery.... Finally after doing my research I found that Olanzopine is a drug notoriously known to cause incredible weight gain. Like 40-80 pounds weight gain. Serious serious stuff.. This drug blocks histamine receptors in your brain and thus blocking your satiety signal. Moreover I've found that while on this drug, my Consciousness was lowered and I was less intelligent. These anti psychotic medications lower your Consciousness while on them. Now I've discontinued the medications and I feel much sharper. I take 100% responsibility because I was too fearful/stupid to research the potential side effects. But these psychiatrists didn't warn me about this. This is very distressing.....

@undeather Judson Brewer talks about the number needed to treat which according to him is 1 in 5. You can watch videos about him on YouTube. I really don't know the full details. But the videos below are really mind boggling.

@undeather Psychiatric drugs work on average for 1 to 5 people according to Judson Brewer. Another reason they prescribe these drugs is because that's their only solution under the materialist paradigm. It's really sad when you see people zombiefied and all messed up because of this line of treatment. I'm not against these medications. But it shouldn't be the only tool used.

@RendHeaven This reminds me of the Buddha. Initially he used to starve himself in order to attain Enlightment. He was really hardcore. Close to the brink of death.

@Schizophonia What is your problem??

@undeather Most psychiatrists here in Greece, prescribe medications carelessly like candies without giving any warnings. That's what they have been trained to do basically. Anytime you got an issue, immediately here is a drug for it. A friend of mine has gotten all messed up because of medications he takes. It seems that many, if not most of these psychiatric drugs, solve one problem, only to cause another one.

@Schizophonia Now I can sleep well. I am not a smoker any more. And cannabis is super addictive for me. Benzos are not addictive though (for me) . I never abused them. They are not to be used longer than 1 month. If you take Benzos for sleep you can just take 1 pill before sleep and it does the job. That's what I did. Lorazepam has a long half life. Other Benzos have shorter half life.

@integral The funny thing with all these psychiatrists.. is that they are so eager to prescribe you medications without warning you about the downsides, while themselves they usually haven't taken any of the medications. They usually haven't been the ones being prescribed and suffered from medications. That's why they do not care too much.

@Sugarcoat Interesting story. You cannot completely trust doctors or any human for that matter.

@undeather Will the metabolism of the drugs and their effectiveness change if I am no longer ingesting food? Keep in mind I want to do only 3 days of fasting.

I've been prescribed lorazepam and olanzopine at night, to get more hours of sleep. Soon I'll be off the medications. I'm thinking about doing a 3 day water only fast. I have successfully done fasts before so I have some experience and know what to expect. BTW I love fasting. Its so much easier than dieting. This is an opportunity for me to do the fast now. Also with the medication I will be sleeping a lot better while fasting. Can I do a 3 day water fast while on these medications??

I remember few years ago.. when i was practicing semen retention.. and Leo made a sarcastic response saying smthing like : This was probably the most low consciousness thing i ever seen posted from Leo.. and it really shocked me..... I don't know exactly what he meant. But if he meant what i think then that's pretty disapointing. Because not reacting like an animal to all your urges is truly a practice. Not doing something can also be a practice and a super difficult one. Not reacting to all your thoughts, fears, urges and etc is the hardest thing to do (or not do ^_-) in the world. And Leo's video about Letting Go is similar to semen retention. It's exactly the same concept. Letting go, not reacting. I have experience with this because i recovered from my severe OCD by doing exposure response prevention. Where you basically stop reacting to all the sh*t your mind throws at you. And it was the most difficult thing i ever did. I think Leo has not much direct experience with semen retention and it's too hard for him to do(We all have our own weaknesses). Maybe in his 60s he will be saying something totally different.

@undeather Maybe I didn't write my thread the right way. I will be drinking water. Only water and a lil bit of salt.

@undeather Why is that??

I take olanzopine & lorazepam before sleep. I was prescribed these drugs for a short period of time by my psychiatrist. Anyways I am also taking 200mg modafinil (not prescribed) only at morning. I haven't felt anything wrong or weird in my direct experience. Only one day when I drank too much coffee I felt my heart a lil bit weird but nothing serious. The reason I'm afraid is because lorazepam calms the nervous system while Modafinil does the exact opposite. And both drugs have long half lives. I don't feel anything bad though. Also how many people for example smoke weed while they drink coffee. And they have no issues. Should I be Worried?

@ItsNick I've made significant & rapid changes in a very short time and had an awakening . This resulted in me sleeping only 3 hours a day. I didn't have problems going to sleep though. I was just full of energy almost all the time. My body for some reason wasn't letting me sleep more. That's why I was prescribed these drugs to sleep more hours. I'm very careful about using them strategically like I have in the past. And yes even the doctor told me that soon we're gonna come off the benzos. I don't wish to be dependent on any drug and I respect these drugs very much. I believe benzos are great drugs if used for 1-2 months very very sparingly. If used for more than 2-6 months, then you really get dependent and its no good. Also if you use them for like 6 months it can be dangerous to come off. I've used benzos once before . I took Valium at low doses for a month straight. Then stopped with zero issues whatsoever. I believe these drugs could be used strategically in super difficult times for a short period of time with no issues.

@undeather Thank you. I am just scared because I have been watching videos about stories of drug addiction. And there is this term called speedballing. Where you inject together at the same time heroin & meth/cocaine. Supposedly this is a very dangerous combination because one drug tells your body to go go go and the other one is an extreme downer. I don't know how much truth is behind this rumor. But I believe that if someone were to take anti anxiety medication and also drink coffee at the same time, he would have no problems whatsoever. In fact there are probably millions who do this every single day.

@Leo Gura I just want extra information. And to be honest even if I ask my doctor she probably won't have a clue.... I don't feel like I am mixing these drugs but I understand your point. I specifically take one drug at morning and the other at night. The half life is long but from experience.. I feel Modafinil working for about 8 hours. This whole half life thing doesn't make much sense when you don't even feel the drug working anymore. Also how many people are there who take benzos and also drink coffee that have no problems whatsoever. I don't feel anything weird. If you were to mix cocaine and heroin then yeah that could make your heart stop supposedly. But even then it usually doesn't happen.