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I see people who are deeply insecure do this the most. Unconscious or low consciousness people in general tend to feed on negativity. Look at most media and news broadcasts,,,,

Cool! I’ll add a little more with some links. Facets of Unity is just about my favorite book on the enneagram. By the way, I’m a counterphobic 6. Mapping Certain Levels of Reality We use the Enneagram as a tool and a map at specific junctures in our work of spiritual unfoldment. Initially, we use it as a psychological map that aids self-observation and study. Students also work with our theory of holes (see Essence, Almaas, 1986), which describes the loss of Essence and the consequent development of the personality. Then the work of uncovering the essential aspects proceeds. The theories of depth psychology on object relations, narcissism, and the like, constitute a major portion of the tools used to access the various essential dimensions. The Enneagram is then used at particular points as a map of certain levels of reality, in order to facilitate spiritual transformation. For example, work on the Passions and Virtues helps students in the process of purification of the soul. The Enneagram of Holy Ideas is most useful at the juncture between personal and cosmic realization of Being, as previously mentioned. As with other concepts from various schools, our approach utilizes the Enneagram for the purpose of direct, experiential understanding. It is not used only for psychological observations and typology, nor only for guiding various spiritual practices, but specifically for guiding and supporting open inquiry into one’s experience. Facets of Unity, pg. 16 This is the forth of nine excerpts. Link just below https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/enneagram-and-diamond-approach https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/enneagram-holy-ideas O https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/enneagram-specific-delusions https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/enneagram-specific-difficulties https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/enneagram-specific-reactions

When a Feeling is Just a Memory by Dr. Jim Rosen ©2021 Dr. Jim Rosen When an emotion comes to the surface, how can you know if you're reacting to something from your past? It's actually easy to tell the difference between "feelings of now" and "feelings from the past." Feelings of now build slowly. They are like an acquired taste that develops over time, or like a piece of fruit that slowly ripens. Feelings from the past come in a wave or rush. They jump to the surface because they've been triggered. You seem to feel the feelings now, but in reality, you are remembering these feelings. Something just happened that triggered the memory. The feelings came in a rush, because your mind is a fast computer. Your mind noticed something in your present situation that is similar to the old happening. You may not be consciously aware of what your mind just did, but you can become aware. And awareness and understanding are important steps toward putting the old feelings behind you.

@Karmadhi Thank you for your work. I just wanted to leave one of my favorite quotes about the idea of evil. It meshes well with what you’ve come up with on your own. The Holy Idea referred to below is one of nine points on the enneagram. All Spiritual Work Would be Pointless if There Were Such a Thing as Ultimate Evil As we have seen, each Holy Idea is a characteristic of reality at all locations, at all times, and at all levels. Holy Truth explicates this understanding. Here, we are saying that not only is reality just one presence that is boundless and real, but that it is also positive, blissful, and wonderful. So not only is God one, but God is also wonderful and made of love. The truth, then, is loving and lovable, which is why we say in the Diamond Approach that you must love truth for its own sake. If your orientation is that you love truth so that it will change you and make you a happier person, your orientation is out of sync with how things objectively are; if you see reality as it is, you can’t help but love it. It follows, then, that objectively there is no evil. We see evil only when we perceive reality through a filter. A person who behaves in what we consider evil ways is a person acting through a distortion. In spiritual work, concepts of a devil, of dark forces, of some evil that exists on its own outside of the goodness of reality are considered manifestations of ignorance, both in terms of believing in such concepts and in terms of the manifestations attributed to such forces. All spiritual work would be pointless if there were such a thing as ultimate evil. Facets of Unity, pg. 215 Taken from: https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/evil

There seems to be a tricky play here to balance that of fulfilling desires and maintaining discipline. I remember Ken Wilber once saying something about “to taste something until you’re full”. Also from another source the idea of the permanent witness bossing the automaton (body and instinctual drives) around. Every now and then though to throw it a bone or let it off it’s leash so as to pacify it.

@Nightwise I see myself in a lot of what you describe. In the past I’ve seen where thinking too much has unnecessarily created anxiety. Thinking too much means I’m stuck in my head and detached from Being. One remedy for this is to sense the physicality of the body and find or reconnect with the hara. When the locus of my experience is felt to be either there or close by in the belly or sometimes possibly in the heart, there is a reconnection with being that is absent when I’m thinking too much. I can say only what is right for me. You might need other ideas or answers for a solution to what you seek. I hope this little bit of what I’ve shared can be of use though. Just speaking for myself. When my intention is to express from being instead of mind and there is the felt sense that I’m doing so, I feel clarity and a sense of trust that everything will work out. This contrasts from times when I’m thinking too much. Doubt and confusion then seems to surround everything in my experience with the mind chattering away offering up doom scenarios almost continuously. If what I’ve written resonates. The following two links contain many relevant quotes. https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/basic-trust https://www.diamondapproach.org/glossary/refinery_phrases/being

Feminine compassion via wisdom and Love with a big L.

Four types of suffering For whatever it’s worth,,, I copied this from the thread on George Gurdjieff. A legitimate swatter of hornets nests,,,, Intentional suffering is sometimes referred to as Conscious suffering in the Fourth Way. In Talks on Beelzebub's Tales, Bennett distinguishes four types of suffering - Unnecessary Suffering, Unavoidable Suffering, Voluntary Suffering and Intentional Suffering. Lets have a look at each of these to see if they can help our understanding: The first is Unnecessary Suffering. This would be the type of suffering that we incur because of our unreasonable attitudes and expectations towards others, from our ill-will, hatred and rejection of others, from doubt, possessiveness, arrogance and self pity. In other words, suffering arising from our self-importance. The second is Unavoidable Suffering. This would be the type of suffering that comes to us by accident or from events beyond our control, such as interpersonal conflicts, war, disaster, disease or death. Third, we have Voluntary Suffering. This would be the type of suffering that we take upon ourselves in order to accomplish a personal aim, such as an athlete who disciplines himself to win a race, or a student who labours to get good grades. And finally we have Intentional Suffering. According to Bennett, this would be the kind of suffering that we take upon ourselves in order to accomplish an impersonal or altruistic goal, one that is directed more towards service to others or to the Work, and not for any personal gain. Bennett assumes that this is what Gurdjieff meant by Intentional Suffering. From an article on the second Conscious Shock https://www.endlesssearch.co.uk/philo_is_talk_ae2005.htm

“You can’t be an expert about anything until you’re at least 500 miles from home and you’re carrying a briefcase”. That was said to my father by a friendly competitor in a family business we had years ago. We had quite a few laughs about that one. Because there is definitely some truth to it. You know how people put you in a box and keep you there,,,

@Preety_India I didn’t say that complaining was wrong or hint that others should be demonized for complaining. I specifically said that key in the practice was not judging or engaging in any self criticism. Its natural for people to justify, through imagination, their own complaining as a form of woundology. http://www.halexandria.org/dward044.htm “We have to bless the living crap out of everyone.”- Matt Kahn ??

I started this thread based on the Fourth Way practice of not expressing negative emotions. In the Fourth Way practice of Self observation not engaging in self criticism is heavily stressed. Just observe objectively,,,, hands off self criticism or judgements. This is not an easy practice. Sometimes it’s described as a gathering of snapshots. I used to be a big complainer. I still complain at times,,,, I try to observe it though. Those snapshots inform me that at times I’m quite unconscious in these moments.

I completely agree and have experienced it in myself before. Many times,,, Anger Is higher in the scale of emotional tone than shame or apathy.

Not complaining doesn’t mean repression or blowing sunshine up everyone’s ass either. It’s just not giving expression to a negative emotion. Has anyone noticed how expressing negative emotions seems to drain one of chi energy or life force? Not expressing negative emotion is good cooking! @Preety_India I didn’t say everything negative is wrong. Do you think you could have projected that this thread is about toxic positivity? Lets talk it out friend,,,

The enneagram is a deep topic. Study or typing of personality types is the most superficial of the concepts it represents. I don’t mean to dismiss the personality studies it frames. I’ve found it very useful for working on myself within my own inquiry. The enneagram shows the law of 3 and the law of 7 or octave which frames the Ray of Creation. In this YouTube, some of the text from Beelzebub’s Tales to his Grandson is being read.

@Preety_India I’ll smoke to that! Maybe it will result in more frequent- Symptoms of Inner peace http://www.halexandria.org/dward774.htm

http://www.halexandria.org/sitemap.htm A little bit of something for everyone,, maybe An old favorite of mine. Beware of getting terminal seriosity. Become a Bozo-Sattva http://www.halexandria.org/dward015.htm Find a webpage you like and share it with the rest of us if you like.

I think it’s a great idea. A lot of people will not give up their unnecessary suffering. I used to be one. Still am sometimes. I practice letting go of reaching conclusions and that saves me from a lot of suffering sometimes. Life is often unfair. I use to complain a lot about how things were often unfair and it only aggravated and prolonged my suffering.

Had a nice fire this evening. It was too hot to enjoy it though. I’m still burning underbrush that I’m clearing out on my hill. It’s going to take a couple of months next fall and winter to finish the whole hill. While grocery shopping this morning a woman whistled a cat call at me. Not from a distance either. This was as we passed each other in a grocery isle. It caught me off guard. I just said -“why Thank ya” and walked away not really knowing what else to do. Of course my ego really got some mileage out of this. That’s the first cat call I ever got as an adult. I think.

I can understand why some people I interact with are possibly concerned about my mental stability. I’m not saying that they are or I think they are because I don’t know and so to state that would be a projection. Looking in the rear view mirror at my life. The past has been a series of ups and downs in several areas of life. Mental acuity , physical health, psychological balance, spiritual insight, inspiration. Human beings are definitely multidimensional. Okay???? Okay,,,, In an earlier post I admitted to my life being on more of a left hand path within the last couple of years. Not in an Aleister Crowley kind of way but kind of. I’ve had episodes of delusion that mixed with paranormal phenomena to the extent that I can’t say for certain what constitutes actual reality as I write this down, here in my journal, in a non delusional frame of mind. That rather bland statement surely feels like an understatement. To go more out on a limb might just invite high minded conventional do-gooders into my life again and that is something I don’t care to do. Whoever originally remarked that the world of the mystic and the schizophrenic are one and the same knew something a large percentage of the population will forever be clueless about. IMO. That’s enough about that for now,,, Within the last month I’ve began to put my phone on -Do not disturb- for long periods of time. Here is one result. People began projecting like crazy. Some more than others of course. Some who are reading this might find this an inviting thing to do for two reasons. 1) As a Malamat practice to see if it’s true in how it results in many projections towards oneself and 2) paradoxically, an act of Self Love in reclaiming sovereignty over your own life in the form of being free from that damn thing that keeps you at the mercy of everyone who has your number. To put it dramatically. ?

A few years ago when I was doing dream work I found that this was key. It’s almost like movement of the body after awakening acts as a dream eraser. So writing the dream down as soon as possible is very important. At least it was for me.

I’ve learned through the I CHING that avoiding eye contact with someone who is completely taken over by the pain body is a beneficial thing to do. While at the same time asking that their higher self can come through. I remember my father not making eye contact with me when I was younger. Times when I was bad out of sorts and acting ugly. Recalling these times helped me realize the truth in this. Making eye contact with someone who is acting completely from the ego only feeds their ego. The I CHING says when someone’s pain body is in complete control they rob others of chi energy by making eye contact . I’m paraphrasing by using Echart Tolle’s word pain body but I think it communicates the idea clearer.

I have a friend who does Rolfing. Or a form of it.He’s a colorful character. He’s a self taught chiropractor. That should tell you something,,,He went to massage therapy school but he never bothered with getting a license. I would go so far as to call him a healer because he’s so talented. Over the years he’s worked on quite a few people so he can stay fairly busy if he wants to. The paradoxical thing about him is that in addition to being a healer, he loves to fight and will act like he’s bored if there aren’t 3 or 4 at once trying to take him on. He has taught different kinds of karate in the past. Mostly with his massage therapy he does a pressure point therapy mixed in with it he basically beats the hell out of you. What I referred to as a form of Rolfing. He’ll also crack your neck if he thinks you need it, even if you ask him not to. A few years ago he got into a scrap with another local over a woman. They met one another in town on the five lane. One going north and the other going south. I don’t know for sure but I think the other guy just stopped and got out and started running at my friend who was driving in the oncoming traffic. When he saw how he was being challenged, he didn’t waste any time abandoning his truck in the middle of the highway, just like the other guy. That’s how I he told me it went anyway. Long story short,,, they fought back and forth across the highway something like 1 1/2 times. Much like those stupid bulls of ours I was telling about a while back. Similar to the bulls, these guys was going at it oblivious of the traffic. This is kind of sad for my journal that I’m just basically gossiping. It was an entertaining description of my friend, I thought though. I guess the moral of the story is that we’re all multidimensional and my friend just provided a good example of it. I might show him this sometime. He’ll probably just laugh. I got attacked by a big pit bull when I went to visit him a couple of years ago. Some guy went to prison and his girlfriend was staying with my friend for a few days and kind of abandoned the dog for a while. The dog was absolutely crazy and had to be kept on a chain. Well, the chain broke when I approached his front door. He broke the skin an my abdomen. It would have been a lot worse if it hadn’t been cold and I had about 3 layers on. My friend was right there on it too. Even while being attacked I was amazed at how little the dog regarded the ax handle that was bouncing off his skull. The dog was put down not long after this. I thought it was the best thing to do given all the circumstances. That dog could have easy ended up killing someone’s kid(s). I guess that’s enough gossip for now.

To Be or Not to Be by Dr. Jim Rosen ©2021 Dr. Jim Rosen Be the things that you want to have. Do you want love? To be loving is the way to have the love you want. By extending your love, by expressing your love, obviously you add to the love felt by those around you. Not so obviously, you also add to the love that you feel. It makes you more whole, more full, more complete, more joyous, more love-filled. You want inner peace? To be peaceful inside yourself, express feelings of peace and calm to others. Grab onto every little bit of peace and calm you can find within, and then share it. Put it out there. You will find that it calms others and adds to your own calm and peace and well being. When you share love, when you share peace, you do not diminish the love and peace that you have. Indeed, you add to the love and peace within you. Your mind is a powerful thing. By using it to express goodness, you increase the goodness felt in the world - everyone’s world.