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@Nahm its reflecting from nothing. Void. That void is everything already. So the reflection is just playing it thru.

The difference here is that when you awaken from the Matrix you are still in the Matrix. Can't escape yourself.

@Schahin The enlightened being wishes to awaken the rest of humanity which therefore would move humanity forward. The unconscious would be conscious. If everyone were conscious that they were God there would no longer be rape or murder, or corrupt politicians. So how can the enlightened being help move humanity towards this goal? In any way that they feel - teaching, writing, creating, etc.

@pluto technically speaking all of those are being imagined by YOU. Oneness

@pluto nice. Sounds like he was deeply enlightened.

@possibilities You still mistake the Absolute with belief. And no i am not proselytizing because i explain or teach non-duality and then i tell people not take it as a belief. This is a spiritual school. I respect you for standing up to protect others but I'm not brainwashing others or forcing beliefs on them. You have not awoken yet so you do not yet understand the Absolute. Worry about your own growth and not so much about everyone else. Let them decide what teachings they wish to absorb or reject for themselves.

@pluto yes - ofcourse ! God is pure isness - and you are God. You are yourself so that is equal to Infinity which is Absolute zero because....there is no reflection point. An eye cannot see itself. So you need to create duality and thus be yourself and know yourself through yourself. In other words create finite division with which to look back at yourself. You are out there being yourself right now but you had to trick yourself to do it. You needed to create lesser beings to share the experience and Love of yourself with yourself. These beings had to be tricked into forgetting what they were, for if they were not lesser or finite then you would be right back where you started. Not knowing yourself! You do but not in form. Mystical experiences are the death of the finite and God revealing these Truths to himself and then sending himself back into the world of the finite. It is the ultimate gift he can give himself. Also important point Bashar seems to miss the essence of God which is Love. From what you are stating. I have not studied his works.

From your perspective as God - the Great Mind - you are imagining Osho. Your imagining all of this. You are completely alone. This is an infinitely higher level of conscioisness - but it can be realized directly.

That's a personal attack and it's also your opinion. And why would you do that? Are you attempting to brainwash others? Why don't you keep your opinions about me or my comments to yourself if you have nothing positive to say. This isn't the first time someone has said this to you either.

Yes that is why enlightenment is liberating - because you stop worrying about little things But at the same time you have the freedom to believe in free will. It's similar to awakening from this dream, knowing it's a dream, and playing in it.

@Truth Addict much love for you too but i don't think that my answers were confusing to @Schahin he was grasping what i was saying because we spoke outside the thread. This is very advanced stuff.

@Natasha

@karkaore you are eternal

@Schahin but you didn't know that beforehand

@Schahin you're getting it. It is based on perspective. But why fight that? Why not embrace it. I sense that you are leaning towards non free will and only God's perspective. From your perspective you have free will. You can shift perspectives but you can't be both simultaneously. Even though you are.

@Schahin i think you are stuck on the idea that you are an illusion. Yes you are God (infinite consciousness) imagining that it is a human. But if all there is consciousness or imagination then you are as real as anything. Real and imagination are indistinguishable.

@Schahin see you can't see Infinity from the finite - and that is exactly the design!

Yes you have individual free will. Don't you feel that when you make a decision? Isn't that you making it?

@Schahin language is finite - it cannot grasp the Infinite.

@Schahin The answer is both. It is a paradox. Infinity is unbounded.

@AlldayLoop you are Jesus! When you awaken to that it will be the road to liberation. You have glimpsed the Ox now go deeper

@possibilities that may not be obvious to him..watch your projecting - and i don't mean that condescendingly, i mean it sincerely. I'm done on the thread though, i believe i have passed what wisdom i have here.

@possibilities How was i derailing the thread? I was addressing the OP about brainwashing.

@yellowschnee The highest realizaton is that what i am saying is a strange loop because you can't even trust what i am saying! Truth can't be spoken. But yet we do - knowing it's limitations.

@yellowschnee Only trust in you, because you are God. When you fully awaken you no longer need to give your authority away to others - like Leo or Jordan Peterson, or Adyashanti, or Sadhguru. This is because you become fully conscious that you ARE them. You created them as you did all things. Thus you transcend all nonsense like brainwashing. But this comes with spiritual practice such as mediation - self inquiry, etc. You can do anything you want and you don't need a teacher or spiritual guru once you awaken. You can write books, start your own business, teach, whatever. But you will no longer be bound to the words of others because you are conscious that you are reality itself.