Inliytened1

@Mikael89 hater!! Lol

@Mikael89 it seems obvious they elevate consciousness levels. Whether one is ready for mysticism is whole other ballgame.

@Juan Cruz Giusto let's have a healthy discussion about this if you want. Afterall I'm discussing this with myself LOL. I talked about that - God's formed perspecive - after becoming conscious of it - before Leo did. I have done the work. That's how i know. And i experienced ego death and the dark night of the soul. I'm not just talking out of my arse here.

@Juan Cruz Giusto that's wrong. The ego is an illusion which must be stripped away for God to awaken to himself (itself). The ego is relative and you as God are the Absolute. Duality must collapse leaving only non-duality. God enlightens himself. To say you are already enlightened means you are already Truth or God. That's a relative definition of enlightenment. The other definition is discovering you are God by removing the veil. Wake up.

@Petals reality is a giant Mind. It is itself - thus it has no ground. It's OK to dwell in duality or concept and imagination. Thats good - and it will bring you along. But ultimately you will reach a point in the hero's journey where you must go off on your own. That is where language and words can no longer carry you. And none of us can help you - because the ultimate discovery is that we are all in your imagination. For you to discover this you must Awaken to yourself.

@ThomasT keep going. You have not even scratched the surface. But before diving into advanced pyschedelics i would recommend you do meditation- self inquiry and do nothing / no mind meditation - and related practices so that you build a foundation and understanding of spirituality. As for your life if you take this at the appropriate pace it will enrich it. And you can find inner peace and happiness - liberation.

@The Don thought is form. The present moment is formlessness. When you meditate you connect with Being - formlessness. When your form collapses leaving only formlessness you become the present moment - frozen. In other words the present moment freezes. So when you meditate and are present you are still form dancing with formlessness. When "IT" happens, that is a non-dual state. So you can't be in a full non-dual state 24/7 or you would be dead permanently. (As the ego) But you can develop a fullness of consciousness or non-dual awareness that blankets your Ego's consciousness if you have enough awakenings and become conscious of Oneness. So meditation 24/7 can move you towards this but don't confuse that with being the present moment 24/7.

@Juan Cruz Giusto i won't comment on pyschedelics since my awakenings happened without - but it is obvious to me without even taking them ever that they raise consciousness levels. That said..here we go again with the permanent enlightenment debate. Basically you do die as the ego and come back different. But it is a cumulative amount of awakenings (many) that lead to a state of non-dual awareness that is always there in the background. This can happen with or without psychedelics. It is about raising consciousness high enough to have mystical experiences/non-dual states or awakenings in which you become the Absolute and conscious of those Absolute Truths contained within.

@Nahm correct. This is all more concept and imagination. In the end it all must collapse into the Absolute. @Petals Words and concept may only confuse you more right now being new on the path. Better to meditate and lose all concept by becoming the Absolute and then you will get it (by not getting it!)

You are consciousness itself. You are the substrate of everything. You are formless and infinite. You experience yourself through form which is imagination. You can imagine up anything you want. Right now you are imaging you are a human. So the root level is Infinite, groundless consciousness.

@Petals its happening at both levels you just are not aware of it in your current state of consciousness. At higher levels of consciousness you realize that you ARE consciousness itself or God - imagining you are a human. You as God are also imagining that what is being imagined is real precisely so you as the human can reside in its current level of consciousness and not be aware that the physical world and everything else is imagination.

@Shin good stuff.

@Shadowraix yeah no wrong answer here. Relative vs Absolute. The Absolute is One. No opposites. The relative is both illusion and real. Illusion from the vantage point of the Absolute and real from the relative.

@Elham yep could not agree more.

Reality is absolutely relative - meaning its a shift in perspectives. For example you can look at one of the fingers and view it as a finger - relative to this perspective it is a finger. Or you can you can keep your gaze on the finger and shift perspectives. Now you see it as the whole hand. So too can you as consciousness or God shift perspectives. From your Ego's perspective to the fullness of God's perspective. You are God regardless and that is Absolute. But your relative perspective can be anything it wants. It can be a finger or the hand. And whatever that is is what reality is, literally. That is the magic of God. It is so infinite that it can tear down perspectives and build new ones. This is so total that from a particular perspective no others exist unless you bring them into existence by thinking about them. (Imagining them) All this from looking at your hand!

@Shadowraix as it must be.

@Bryanbrax When you awaken you will realize is legit. And when you fully awaken you shall realize he is you. He's your creation.

@Pouya precisely. Absolute Infinity. The ultimate strange loop that created itself from itself. And you are it. Everything is imagination. All of it. Isness cannot be captured unless you imagine it . Extraordinarily elegant.

The highest realization is that you as God are imagining yourself. Therefore it matters not unless you decide to make it matter. I have a love of my small self so i want to survive. That's OK. You as God loves duality. Otherwise you wouldn't play anything out it would just already be - which is fine too. Nothing needs to happen - it just happens because you will it. Its nirvana regardless.

@zeroISinfinity lol.. no had it as God. And you aint real

@Truth Addict i didn't want to start up the whole Solipsism discussion again as there was a whole thread on it. But yeah..i had the realization that it is total Solipsism. Not as the self but as God. I am God am imagining all of it and that's all there is to it. End of story. Even to say there are other perspectives is concept and imagination. To say you are imagining me right now is concept and imagination that i am imagining. So it's a strange loop. It can't be escaped. There is nothing wrong with that. I know there is going to be opposition to this that's why i didn't make a thread about it. But when i had the realization of Oneness a few months ago it took me some time to clarify this.

Indeed it is also amazing to see that a teaching that is a thousand years old nailed the essence of reality. Its amazing. But we must remember it is still a teaching -not Truth or the Absolute itself. It presents Truth in its own relative way. This can only be discovered by becoming Truth itself - then one can see how all such teachings ultimately point to Truth. So it is a map to the territory. There are many different flavors of maps that can point you to the same territory. (Well, not very many at all actually) and notice i said point. To get to the territory you must become it.

@SoonHei i should say as far as it is known thus far. Who knows on one of Leos DPT trips he may be able to enter the Godhead and tap into another's consciousness There is no limit to the limitless.

@SoonHei indeed.. much love my friend

Now in either perspective you dont enter another's consciousness. This is because from the ego's perspective you are limited by design. If you could be another's consciousness you would stop being you and you would be that thing. And from God's perspective in form - the giant Mind - all perspectives are being imagined by God so no need to enter a mind of something being dreamed by you. So the only way you can know and be all perspectives and none simultaneously is to be pure Being or pure Potential. And thats as pure potential not form.