Inliytened1

Once you awaken to yourself you see the Oneness in what is being discussed here. It is all One thing that is being discussed here. It is all you. Before i digress into duality let me preface by saying you are One. You are alone and you are God. With the Absolute out of the way we can discuss form or duality all we want. All of which being discussed here is duality or form - and how imagination can be manipulated - and it can - however difficult from the finite - it can via mysticism - or the occult as @Matt8800 discusses. To @kieranperez s point the Absolute miracle is discovering you ARE the Absolute by dissolution of the illusion leaving bare the Absolute. Being. To know that isness it itself. That you ARE yourself and you are infinite. There is no where to go because you are groundless and you are God. That is the highest miracle.

The highest realization is that you are alone as God. You are Jed. You are the other 50. It's just you. You are the only one who can discover yourself. Other perspectives - while concept to you - are still you though you can only conceive them as concepts as your limited small self. Even beyond that they are you. That should be prefaced by you as God before diving into duality and discussing your divisions. "So any teacher who doesn't clarify this first does not know they are God." That's said in quotes because its dualistic.

The Absolute is Absolute. But you won't understand this until you do.

Self inquiry meditation.

You can discover that you imagined science up. You imagined all of it.

Very nice!!

@ajasatya well said. @Identity Science is a part of the whole - so it will never be able to capture the whole. You are the only authority on the whole because you ARE the whole. @Wasem "And it is fluid, it is changing. Think of the science of 500 years ago" - exactly. That's why it requires a consensus.

@Nahm isness my brotha...words turn in on themselves here..isness is itself.

@Nahm who is saying the paradox is my illusion? Do you see how the loop is inescapable? You are yourself.

@mandyjw

@Nahm that's because reality/you are a strange loop - a paradox. That doesn't mean you can't awaken to yourself. You guys are both enlightened masters arguing about the same thing. This type of thing is getting old at least to me. We have seen a huge growth in consciousness on this forum as everyone's levels are much more advanced. To the point where we are arguing about the same thing - Oneness - in different ways.

That said there is no reason to say one is more advanced than anyone else - if in fact they are advanced - because that is ego. One should simply give back here and teach. It is up to everyone else on the forum if they wish to heed the words. Ultimately it has to be discovered for themselves.

I knew right away that he was advanced and not new. Seems like a nice guy too which is great.

@Aakash even though we as ego's do not have infinite intelligence - we have a much larger sliver than a dog. One would need a certain level of finite intelligence to mystically shift to the infinite and discover they are God. Dogs are just looking for their next meal. But we can learn from their ability to live in the present moment at all times even though they don't know they're doing it. ( Or self aware of it)

@Aakash exactly

@Aakash mysticism will happen it is inevitable if you keep doing the practices. It is divine and beautiful. Words cannot capture the Divine that a mystic becomes.

@Aakash that's all accurate. Formlessness creates form within it which is form made of formlessness. Therefore form is both illusion and real because there is nothing else. Oneness is consciousness that the form IS the formless and that the two are indistinguishable. You understand all of this. It's possible that enlightened beings of the past did not reach these levels of consciousness..but the paradox is that these beings are being imagined as well. As are all teachers. You must surpass all of your own teachers because they are your imagination.

@Mikael89 LOL. That's one way of waking up. I personally prefer meditation

In the end friends are still you. You are alone as God. You as God have created everything else so you could experience what it is like to not be alone. And also to experience discovering your true nature over and over to infinity. But you love everything as One. You love being alone. There is no where to go as you are yourself. So might as well rediscover that and feel the wonder over and over to infinity.

Consciousness IS God. It is the substance of everything. And it is formless. Thats what you ARE.

@Mikael89 he's not the face. I mean the face is imagnation so its the form contained within formlessness. But the substance of it all - the essence of it all - well - that's formless.

Dogs - animals - live in the now/present moment all the time

@zeroISinfinity you are the formless.

This has been explained here before it's what Leo stated.

@Aakash