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The ultimate full circle is that you will do it all again, forever. Because God can't help itself and you have done it forever. You've awoken an infinite amount of times heheh.

Of course the highest realization is that you are imagining Ken Wilbur. He is part of your dream so he is a projection of your mind. It takes a shift in consciousness to first buy into the illusion and then as part of the illusion imagine that he is not awake. Which of course is all imaginary That is why they say waking up is losing your mind as you knew it.

Because you were levels of consciousness infinitely higher than what you are at now.

@The Lucid Dreamer I am super glad you decided to join the forum.

You are awake that you are God - yes - but when you try to push Truth on someone it backfires. It is intimate and honestly can't be taught. All teachings must be transcended. The map isn't the territory. And people often take the map as the territory when you throw the map in their face. They have to want Truth for themselves so badly they are willing to die for it - or they have suffered so much over many decades that it forces them to submit to Truth. So it has to happen for them on their own. All paths are unique but all paths ultimately lead to Truth!

@The Lucid Dreamer. Thanks for starting the thread and good insights from what i read thus far. It's now featured. Nice to meet you by the way.

@zeroISinfinity what is real to him now is what is real. Thats the magic of Infinity.

Well said sir

Go easy on the Vegan man i know him in "real life"....heheh in "real life" and he is a great guy. Much love to both of you guys

There is no human mind - thats an illusion. God/you are dreaming this up and when you are done dreaming you are Vegan you will dream you are a tiger somewhere in Africa. This dream only has meaning within the dream. It is literally identical to your night time dreams and you can wake up from it as God just as you awoke from last nights dream. You can be lucid in this waking dream just as much as you can be lucid in your dream at night.

I love you too I'm not talking about satisfaction from a human perspective I'm talking about God realization - and waking up from this dream you are in to discover you are pure Consciousness or God. And as God you are dreaming you are a human. That isn't to make anyone feel less worthy - it is to point them to the fact that they are pure Perfection and they can discover it directly!

Beauty with a capital B indeed. And Divinity with a capital D. Its so beautiful that words cannot do it justice.

Correct. But its not a dumb isness. It is pure infinite intelligence. A Mind. And it is Love. That is why God fits.

Proving what point? I was saying that until you awaken you don't know that. You are assuming it. What i am saying is the Truth but you won't know that until you do and not before.

Not true these are Absolute realizations as the Absolute. It cannot be described with language so it appears as a subjective experience when described.

If you (anyone not you personally) have not had a mystical experience or in other words a non-dual state of consciousness (pure Divine Consciousness - the Godhead as it is termed) than you are not awake. Its not a belief. Its actuality. Pure actuality. I am not directing this to you personally I'm just telling you how it is. You can disagree all you want and think it is mental masturbation but that will keep one from ever awakening.

What you have to grasp is that science is a part of, or within reality - it is not the whole of reality. And you ARE reality. So you cannot capture or prove reality through science because you already ARE it. Its putting the horse before the cart. You cannot capture yourself because you are yourself. That's why you can't pin down light, for example, being both a wave and a particle simultaneously. And a "particle's" position and velocity cannot be measured simultaneously. It exists in a superposition or wave function and at the point of measurement collapses into a particular position or velocity - just as light appears as a wave or a particle depending on the experiment. It points to the nature of reality but it cannot capture the whole of reality because reality is prior to it. It just is itself. To grasp this is to collapse into the wave function and become infinite - otherwise known as enlightenment or a non-dual state of consciousness.

Others are imaginary. There is nothing outiide your direct experience. Period. I'm playing the game. Nothing more.

I am imagining you and i am imagining this entire forum. Its all in my Mind.

I don't know if it can be conveyed via language. You just have to awaken to it.

You just imagined all of that! You imagined a parallel universe!

For some reason this seems to be a huge confusion but i think only awakening to full Godhood clears this up. Its definitely a trap to be noted.

You are not grasping what is being said in this thread. And i can appreciate that. Go back and read the thread again carefully. Actually the delusion is thinking there is any separation whatsoever. That is the illusion. Because all separation is imaginary. This is extremely radical. Yes, the Truth is definitely dangerous to the ego. Because to truly become conscious of Truth is the cessation of everything you previously thought you were. It is a radical recontexualization. If this conversation triggers you than that's fine. You are not ready to awaken yet. This is not for everyone. But if you truly want to discover the nature of reality and your true nature than this is the place to be. He is not misleading his followers he is showing them Truth and not dicking around it like so many teachers out there do that either aren't fully awake or are worried about soothing other's mental instability or maybe even their own public image. I can vouch for this facet of awakening because i became conscious of it directly. Others here have too. It's not an easy one to stomach at first but its worth it in the end. It's also a very key facet in becoming fully awake to being God. Its very important that it is clarified - but its not something that can really be explained you just have to awaken to it.

@EternalForest ALL separation is imaginary. You are imagining this forum and everyone in it. You are imagining all others and all other. If you are not imagining it directly, it does not exist. Once you become conscious of this reading someone else's mind becomes a moot point. Even God's infinite power and that you don't have it currently is something you are imagining as God.

@Consilience wonderful post thanks for sharing. Yes one of my main meditation practices is concentration these days. (and has always been).