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@Petals God has to lose itself and suffer. That's in essence what you are. Only then can it find itself/realize itself. Love.

Notice that this is an assumption. Now - when and if you become directly conscious of Oneness, you will become directly conscious that reality is Infinite. This will shatter materialism because what is everything must include nothing. This may lead to the radical realization that you are in fact, absolutely nothing. Thus you will directly realize that your birth is a hallucination in order to induce the appearance of separation - or as you said - the filter that limits the infinite.

After ego death. When it is seen through. It does not like to be killed off or to be uncovered as an idea. Because basically its you - as you are a collection of thoughts and attachments and a sense of self - that dies. So on return how do you think that feels

@SilentTears ultimately it all collapses into one. Knowing and Being are One but that is pure Infinity.

@SilentTears its not from the relative standpoint because what you imagine becomes real for you. So dualistically you as a human are not Jesus and never were (from your relative POV...so we are saying the same thing - im just speaking from the Absolute perspective..

@SilentTears form is imagined by the formless by limiting itself. Or more accurately the very act of imagination is limitation. Its all One thing.

Its a mind bender. You're imagining Jesus - or more precisely i am imagining you imagining Jesus. You are Infinity. I am infinity imagining you are Infinity imagining Infinity. Will you imagine you are jesus someday? Sure maybe as you are Infinite so you may also dream that you are some undiscussed alien, just the same as you are imagining you are you right now. You have done and been it all and also have infinitely more to be. Don't try to grasp the infinite with the finite your mind will break.

@Mvrs Absolute Truth is itself. But don't now then see Absolute Truth as something separate from you. Realize that its you. That is enlightenment. When you actually know it and you become Infinity or Actuality. From this state of consciousness we could call that mysticism as it is a radical shift in the state or consciousness.

This is only half the circle of the awakened one. Going full circle is realizing that you give meaning to the dream and then returning to it.

He seemed like a good guy but his mind is not able to accept that some people have genuinely good intentions. If you notice that's what the whole podcast was about. Joe Rogan pressing that maybe not all people have evil intentions and Alex pushing back that everyone was conspiring. His mind is not able to strike a balance or be open to that.

Its infinite

You sure about that? We can arrange something....

Namaste ??

@No Self sorry man i mixed your name up with @The0Self who i meant to tease.

So get off the damn forum and get qualified ?

@Carl-Richard shaddup you

@Preety_India thanks i really enjoy your insights and posts as well

They would be like you - you banana

@Keyhole this community is really thankful to have folks like you and @Preety_India making it what it is. So i hope you both stick around

He's talking about the Absolute. That is within.

You confuse the Absolute with the relative.

The ancients had it right all along - how did we get so far away from Truth?

One thing to clarify - it is not God tossing itself away. God becomes itself. So it does not toss that which was in the illusion away. It has become conscious of itself and realizes that it is Infinity.

Toss some paradox my way will ya Yeah of course. Because it Is itself. You ARE Yourself and Oneness will always be paradoxical. But relatively speaking one can only become less selfish by putting "others" first. In the dream. If it straight goes for sacrificing itself for the Self that is not true selflessness. That's ego because the Self is but a belief in its finite mind