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Wise words indeed It becomes an ego thing or selfishness. You don't dissolve the self via selfishness.

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And so what are those reasons? Do you feel Gura goes outside the spiritual box in terms of knowing vs not knowing? I'm just curious...

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Indeed. The duality of benefits vs no benefits is transcended or collapsed. Thus when returning to a state where there is a possibility for benefits one now has a meta perspective. The perspective in which they are aware that all benefits are imaginary. The wonderful thing about this is that birth and death are maginary too.

It sounds like kundalini. Was it also a blissful/dissolving feeling that you can't really describe with words or put your finger on?

@IAmReallyImportant You seem a bit too caught up in the teachings but just my POV of course...yes questioning is what it's about...but there wouldn't have been a need to bring up a critique of Acutalized if there wasn't some bias there or trigger..anyway ..nothing wrong with that it's relative but don't let it distract you...both Ralston and Gura are wise men but it's not about the wise men themselves or their teachings- it is about what is being pointed to - Absolute Truth. much love Oh as for Gura's videos - yeah his old stuff is the best. No one can sustain that level forever. Plus all the early spirituality videos were on the facets of the Absolute...If you wanna wake up go listen to the very first video he made on enlightenment while meditating and watch it through the first 4

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Yes. Forget all that you learned about spirituality and enlightenment..and Just perform self inquiry with no ulterior motives.

Well said. And to your point, yes there are actually mystical states of consciousness that are accessible but, and here is the key distinction, not by the ego. So there is truth in the claim that an ego seeking awakening for egoic purposes will never reach such states of consciousness. That is simply because the ego does not reach these states. (It cannot because it is the finite state itself which dissolves) They are void of ego. Saying these states are better is also ego and stated from the dualistic state of consciousness. From within a non-dual state of consciousness there is only isness.

@WaveInTheOcean couple points - i don't think that video Leo did on omniscience was a conflation of the finger and the moon or the map and the territory...rather it was to point out that God is not just Nothingness as some traditions preach. It is Infinity. That said I am the first to point out that I don't feel like it's an axis going in two separate directions. If you quiet the ego mind (no mind) you can become Infinite Mind. And this can be done via meditation as I can directly validate. Psychedelics just cut to the chase from what I have read (never had the need to try them).

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And thus jealousy is an illusion - so it you discover your wife cheated on ya - well its just part of the story you are creating. God loves drama! Where as before you discovered Truth it would cause you a world of suffering- also an illusion. God is the master magician.

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Elegant is it not? The Realization of which is the end of all suffering

It's exactly like a dream you have at night. Your not conscious that you are dreaming the whole thing until you wake up. While dreaming you are playing some character within the dream. But there was always one Mind.

@Someone here your just running into the limits of where you can go with knowledge and logic which will always be partial and finite. Ultimately to achieve omniscience and total certainty it is necessary to transcend logic into Being. Knowing/not knowing collapses into Being.

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Yes but rarely now and if I ever do i catch myself pretty fastI i went back and edited to mention there is Integration work post awakening...enlightenment is a magic pill but it doesn't work overnight. It does in a sense but then the ego has to return and integrate Truth into its everyday life..but once Truth is seen it cannot he unseen - although the ego will try its damndest it can take years of integration work- it depends on where one is on the path.

True...Consciousness is a shapeshifter. Once it is realized that you are Consciousness and not the individual shapes, once is free to incarnate as any shape and embrace that shape..to fully experience what it is to be that shape, ultimately returning to source to play the game again.

Before enlightenment chop wood, carry water. After enlightenment chop wood, carry water. Only this time there is no more suffering because you realize that suffering is part of the ego mind and to me a direct result of selfishness. You can go meta on the ego mind because you have "actually" transcended it. It takes integration work post enlightenment, don't get me wrong... As for the body it resides within Mind, ultimately.

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When I first discovered It in one particular awakening I was terrified of going insane. I almost did... Because there was absolutely no difference between anything. The duality of self/other completely collapsed.

It dissolves (otherwise known as enlightenment) when you become directly conscious, via self inquiry, that the self or localized consciousness (form) was an illusion - that the self was an illusion. You will never be able to pinpoint it because it's not actual. Once this is directly realized you will stop identifying with the self and it will cease to exist for you because it was illusory. You can then (in the same awakening or in a different one) realize directly that you are Actuality itself/Awareness itself, AKA nfinite Consciousness. That's enlightenment in a nutshell - but these realizations are actual at the level of Pure Being...( Mystical / kundalini, etc) not conceptual. You shall become a mystic