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How can no one is? What if the duality of "no one" and "one" collapses?

Don't hold your breath for a two part series in the catalog

@GreenLight yes keep going. When the self reference problem is realized directly you have hit it... and it will be Total. When something cannot point back to itself it just IS itself. That's the I AM. I IS ?

You'll just continue to zoom in forever.

And what is a probability field?

There is a shift in consciousness. It is mystical. Consciousness is mystical. How can everything be nothing? How can Infinity create itself? Does this make any rational or logical sense? All what, where's, and how's are something it dreams up! Look at your hand. Stare at the one of the fingers. You see and realize it's a finger? Now keep your focus there but make a shift in consciousness to realize it is the hand. Did you feel something with that shift? Don't feel bad if you don't...it takes the average guy lots of hours of meditation - perhaps years. That's why Leo speaks of psychedelics so much.

Lol I actually meant to just put "and now imagine" in bold to show we are imagining constantly sometimes without even realizing it...but that was kinda cool how that played out

Indeed!! Nice pic

See in bold....

@Mason Riggle you got it yet there can be the moment of realization that You are This - and that's enlightenment. The "i am" moment. You are Yourself. Pure Divine Love/Being

Aye!! So just to clarify for anyone reading what I was telling the guy in this thread earlier was not quite complete... that was one layer in..or imagination within imagination. See Consciousness is first imagining it is a biological self (the I) then it imagines other people as this self. So..one can begin to appreciate the layers of imagination here...when really once all this collapses it's just Pure Consciousness imagining.

Yep...if Consciousness expands enough it is realized there is no I or you just Consciousness. But IT is YOU as Awareness That's when things get interesting

Sshhh....

@Fadl Jesus may have been exceptionally spiritually gifted and it happened spontaneously. Meditation and self inquiry works by quieting the egoic mind and also deconstructing the selfish self by an inquiry into what you are...Psychedelics could be tremendous tool to use as well.

@Fadl their ego was able to dissolve through selflessness not wanting powers for themselves. Jesus used healing for others and died for others.

@machiavelli if you truly wanted to be a Jesus and discover God it's not about having powers, it Is about the fact that he was ready to die for other's sins and did according to the story....experiencing God Consciousness is not egoic. It's about selflessness and Love. In fact to reach God levels of Consciousness with meditation you most likely will need to learn how to be selfless in your own life by putting the needs of others before your own even if that involves your own suffering. Especially so in fact...It requires that you be an honest person and a loving person. Now does the ego wanna do any of this? Haha you bet not embody Truth and Love in your own life - meditate - then take psychedelics if you want...

@QandC these are some of the highest teachings you can find anywhere honestly. These teachings are way ahead of where mankind is as a whole. The key is to validate them for yourself.

Not because they are you - because they are not you. God doesn't create others so you can discover oneness and say oh who gives a crap it's all me. No...no no It's actually if you truly put another before you - that is selflessness. That is how you discover Oneness.

Indeed That was a great answer by @WaveInTheOcean....but one thing I can say as well when speaking of what a human can do to become more aligned with Truth and Love is to become more selfless. Being more selfless is to put others first and attempt to alleviate the suffering of others - not yourself. To put others before yourself even if that means you incurr suffering...This is the key to it ALL. But the catch is it has to be true- it can't come from the ego. But that's why God creates the illusion of others in the first place - so that it can share its Love. So it can express selflessness in human form.

@RedLine does he talk about Bliss?

I do that a lot but I'll try the supplements as well..never spent that much time since I'm lucid here...

I wish I could do that. Have never been able to. They can be crystal clear but I am not conscious they are dreams until the moment of awakening.

@WaveInTheOcean amazing that is fucking OUT OF THIS WORLD PURE fucking LOVE bro!!!! Awesome! Now just baith in the bliss of Consciousness!!

@Hulia yeah I know what you are saying...my night time dreams are often very narrow and hazy and I only remember certain aspects. However I am acutely aware that they are real from within the context of them.. For you maybe its better to focus on the spiritual practices themselves and see where it takes you...self inquiry, no mind meditation, etc ..rather than trying to conceptualize reality being a dream. From your POV it makes no sense right now and rightly so.

@Hulia irs all good bro. If you were dreaming right now and you were lucid and telling someone in the dream they were inside a dream and they laughed, honestly how much time would you spend on the matter? If you tricked yourself into thinking its real maybe a lot I dunno..if you were bored...but ultimately you wouldn't waste much time on it haha.. love ya