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that's what this is...its an appearance of division. lets' look at the top sentence. You are the whole tree, and you are imagining that you are being one pariticular leaf. so you are not being the other leafs... Who else would be being the other leaves then? or maybe the other leaves are just being imaged by you as the tree? And when you stop being the leaf and realize you are the tree, you see this. You can't get around Oneness as much as you are trying.

why do you have to force yourself to get over this? you still have some attachments to this world. That's OK. You have an eternity to awaken.

@Iesu ?

@Iesu God doesn't have to be alone. All it has to do is go back to sleep.

Well before we even discuss time as being imaginary...let's look at the 1st part. Language is dualistic so when we talk we can't help but include time..so If you and he are absolutely identical..then that would mean there could be only a single actuality. In other words, you as God could not be actually experiencing multiple points of view simultaneously - because you as God are experiencing this particular one. And so how could "he" if he is you, be experiencing "his" or "yours" without you? You see you are God. You can't "miss" anything because you are everything. So some experience cannot be happening without you! If he is you, then dualistically speaking at some point you will BE him. But you are not being him now because you are being you! You can't be him without you being there to do it !

But I can also ask you- Why can't "i" and "you" be identical ? And then if that's the case why do you assume this One Mind or God experiences all forms simultaneously? Could you be sliding in a hidden assumption that things are happening "at the same time" notice that time is an imaginary dimension like space.

that's because the ego doesn't wan to die again, or have a psychotic break. when this is actually realized directly you will be in such an expanded state of consciousness that there will be no separation between you and the walls or you and other people. you will be on the verge of a psychotic break or you will actually have a psychotic break. You will realize that you are God and that there is nothing outside of You. But the ego doesn't want this, so now it just is very busy keeping you deluded from the Truth or casting doubt over your awakening. I have been there myself. The ego has to keep you deceived. If you are not deceived, you couldn't exist as @jimwell

we have AI now. AI will be all you can ever create. You have to first realize that Consciousness is fundamental, and Infinite. When you grasp this you will be able to answer your question as to whether or not an actual conscious being could be created. RIght now you are coming from the materialist paradigm, thinking things have consciousness. Science will never be able to grapple with consciousness, because science is held within consciousness.

What i have found is that quieting down the egoic, finite mind, which cannot grasp infinity because it IS infinity, via meditation, can produce a shift in consciousness to becoming infinite, or becoming Infinite Mind or the Godhead. Which is Infinite Comprehension or Omniscience. It's precisely like the analogy you have made with the castle and the bricks (the bricks being 1st order). 2nd order cannot grasp 1st order because it is a part of first order..but 1st order can grasp 1st order. The finite mind is 2nd order. Or you could say that Mario is 2nd order and the pixels he's made out of are 1st order. Mario cannot grasp the pixels because he comes from pixels. The castle cannot grasp the bricks because it is made of bricks, it just needs to be the bricks. Or in other words, it needs to realize that it IS the bricks. Or The self reference problem - Oneness cannot point back at itself, because anything it uses to point back at itself, is itself, so it can't. It just IS itself, or has to realize directly that it IS itself. This realizing directly or shift in consciousness can be triggered by quieting the mind. I have done it, others have done it. Granted, i meditated for like two weeks. And I've also just had spontaneous awakenings, and awakenings from self inquiry which is keeping the mind active in a sense..and If people have been meditating for years and not getting anywhere, that's where i would recommend psychedelics. @Consiliencemay disagree here and he may be right..consciousness can elevate over time where that breakthrough or mystical shift can happen- it just may not make sense to go 20 years when psychedelics can take you right there in weeks. But i would stress they need to be grounded first...we've seen all too often how an ungrounded invididual consumes psychedelics after listening to your videos and becomes unstable after being shown such profound Truths they were not ready for.

Ain that the Truth

yeah but at the same time i think it is hard to talk about these topics because language is inheritently dualistic, so saying Your WIll can be immediately deemed to be egoic, selfish will, but i dont think that's what he means here. He means Being or Infinite WIll, which is really identical to Being. Being/Will/Infinity its all the same really. But it's not the selfish egoic will we often think about. Just like "omnisicience" can be deemed to be some selfish power trip but notice that all might be a finite bias of the egoic mind. It's very tricky stuff. He has also stated in the past that God's relinquished its Will entirely because it is Absolute Infinity,which i agree with from my own path. And in a pure Infinite state, God does not see any distinctions or any differences between anything. It must allow all things to exist, and if it disallowed "one pariticular" thing, making a distinction, then it would not be Absolute Love. Thus, in a sense, God forfeits its WIll. That is what Infinite WIll is, actually.

The problem is you are coming at this with the hidden assumption that there is in fact a subject having an experience of an object...that is a duality... "He" is not "having" an experience, nor are you, because in actuality there is no one to have an experience, that is an illusion, or otherwise put, something being imagined. That would mean there is a you over there that "has consciousness", and objective reality over here, and you have consciousness of such objective reality. That's not how reality is. Or another way to put it is "he" does not "have" consciousness. That is the egoic state of mind co-opting consciousness, in order for the dream to manifest, or "physical" reality to manifest. But, in truth, there never was a subject having an experience of an object. And this duality of subject/object can collapse with a shift in consciousness, thus revealing in actuality there is only Being. Being! This, right here, for itself! Take all the you's, he's, me's out of it...its just ISNESS!! That will be God Consciousness... Can you make that shift?

Stop making Truth about Leo, its not.

Your just jealous

I let go of it for a while but then I always ended up gaining too much weight and seeing health impacts. So now I just made going to the gym (I do both strength training and cardio) a lifestyle and I dont ever plan on going back to the old lifestyle. This is the most healthy. Also it's OK if you have a little ego and stare at your arms or abs..I still do it too

Well since you stated in a reply that you aren't completely sure...but your intuition is telling you..ide say you have a strong intuition which is necessary to awaken from the dream. Keep going. But take nothing on as dogma..The realization of what others are lies in the realization/awakening of no self and the subsequent collapse of the self/other duality. And of course there are awakenings into the nature of reality that will allow everything to come together nicely and give you a complete picture. This takes years. As to how you handle the Truth after ...well remember you just said you had a feeling it was a Truth you weren't really supposed to know.... but when you are ready to actually know and you awaken from the dream you won't be asking us how to deal with it. You'll take back your authority as both the player and the developer/creator of the dream..

It's Infinity. It just IS. Serious or fun is a duality that it creates. Which one it is is relative to your finite bias. It's a relative Truth.

Being encompasses knowing- but knowing does not encompass Being

That's a good way to put it

@Rilles @Carl-Richard yeah..The question "what is isness?" Makes it crystal clear.... Try answering that one...the question "what is isness" is already issing

Yes..you can't know reality because knowing is 2nd order to Being which is 1st order. You can't know it because you're already Being. So just to have to be pure Being.

Survival

You guess eh? Notice that here you yourself have subtlty stated that you don't know for sure that you can't know for sure...you might be in for a surprise if you do the spiritual practices and keep an extremely open mind.

@Javfly33 nice! And even if it still happens, you'll be able to go meta on the thoughts, rendering them powerless, because you understand what the deal is now.

Everything is God. And yet, God is nothing.