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No one is sitting on anyone. Nahm is a brilliant guy. It's just in the way I feel he was able to relate to people. I think as mods we all have shortcomings. If any of you guys want to provide positive criticism on myself or any of the mods feel free I will try to learn from it. I know personally I can be arrogant sometimes and that's something I work on. Leo has been criticized plenty so we don't have to worry about that lol

Yes but would you tell someone they are already enlightened and enlightenment is just a thought? Do you think this is going to help.someone become God realized? He would then say God Realization is just a thought. The key thing is that thought should not be demonized Thought is what we use for understanding. Yes paradoxically, it is in not knowing that one finds God and knowing (meaning Being is knowing). But that does not.mean knowing should be demonized or that it can't be used to aid on the path to not knowing. Spiritual practices must be used in conjunction. Direct experience.

Careful to get lost in a story that has enlightened masters..one who is the most awakened. Step outside of that. Go meta.

I love him to death as a person as well..but it just seems like he felt he needed to be involved in every single thread even if there was nothing of substance to say. So he just Injected the neo advaita talk..which honestly is not going to be of any help to anyone. It's better to not post in a thread rather than to just insert the Absolute into every post when we are speaking at a relative level- language after all is dualistic. It just seemed that this got worse and worse, to the point of madness for him. Maybe it was some type of unhealthy addiction to the forum, I'm not sure - or maybe this is just where his head is at..always in the Absolute and out of touch with reality. I think Leo made the right decision, but as I said, I love @Nahm and wish him the best.

@RevoCulture very easy to answer. The question to me is that if you have become directly conscious that the Self is Love, Goodness, integrity, and selflessness- why do you continue to be a devil after awakening? The ego was made to be the devil. When you awaken as Truth and return to the ego, it is very counterintuitive to begin to embody its true nature - which is God, and that the ego self was deception. It finds it much easier to continue to be the devil. It's like skiing uphill...you have to go against everything the ego is. Stop being so damm selfish! Easier said then done the devil refuses to die..it has a very strong survival need. If you are able to become totally selfless, the devil would cease to exist and it cant have that!!

The very fact that you are limited right now asking that question is what makes you as God smile. That's Omnipotence. That's power. You fail to appreciate that true power is in limitation not going full blast. Full blast is easy for God - boring. Limitation, now that's what it's about.

It can give you that in the sense thst it can put you in touch with your true Self because the anxiety of the ego is gone and the ego is always fighting Truth....but that said it won't allow you to have deep awakenings. It dulls your consciousness. Drink in moderation if you are going to do it all. It will kill your body in the long run. It's terrible for your health. For awakenings you want consciousness to be crisp and clear.

Agreed... @Nahm .the you is not the the ego the You is God/Infinity.

I am you and you are me. We have been through this. You are fixated on a person having consciousness and their "own" perceptions. Perceptions aren't "yours" as the ego. The ego is the illusion that has co-opted. They are just God or the universe . Your not ready for this discussion so there is no point in further discussion.

Don't you see? It MUST be absurd! Infinity does not make logical sense. That's a feature not a bug..Because it is PRIOR to logic. Logic is something it dreams up. You have to BE the Truth..you can't rationalize it. Then it will reveal itself to you.

Exactly

Then you still have deeper to go. You can become directly conscious that you are God imagining everything and everyone. You can know for sure. You may deny it to yourself because it's so damn radical when the ego comes back.. but you'll know

It doesn't really matter what issues or non issues his avatar has. You only need to worry about your own development because it can be realized directly that he is a figment of your imagination. This will shake you to your core. But then you won't be so concerned with his shortcomings.

@QandC well said. @SQAAD the thing is ..weve gotten so deep here thst if you were to truly realize what is being said here at the level of Being..you would die and awaken as God. Then the dream would be over. God isnt going to reveal itself to you until you are mature enough. Once you are mature enough, after the initial shock of the Truth, you will go bacl to the dream but with things rarically recontexualized. Right now what you are dlomg is sitting here saying...no..there is NO way that i could be God?!!!! No fucking way!!! So guess what..you won't be!! Once you become God the game is up.. So just enjoy the dream right now! Your no where near awakening and that's not a knock. What I see with Leo is perhaps he had the type of deep awakening I had in 2018 and it shook him more than previous ones. He'll be OK and come out of it. There is no right or wrong way to be but the dream Is here for God to share its love not become a recluse. Embrace and enjoy others and your creation.

Your thinking of finite understanding through concept. Yes knowledge is second order). Infinite understanding of oneself (Omniscience) and Infinite Love of ones self are two sides of one coin so thus they unite as One coin.

Ide say it's pretty good. You are actuality. You are Infinity.

But honestly what do you think would be in there that you personally don't already know? Youve been on the channel for a while and your advanced..hence the name..it won't be a magic pill. Btw you probably have the best name here lol.

Of course - The finger can't point back to itself because it is itself Actuality Still gotta check out your video on that and channel

Understanding and Love are identical

Cool. There's a ton of wisdom in the videos now..but hey perhaps a compilation of all that wisdom in one course would be helpful. I think you touched on it..it would be for the framework/knowledge..not to give you Truth. He would just need to be careful about making that clear.

I don't think it would be intentionally. Everyone awake probably reached it their own way and turned inward. Various tools are leveraged yes. But can't be any pre-expectation of awakening. It just happens. It does seem he would be going straight to the psychedelic way, because he feels you cannot be truly awake from meditation or have the highest awakening through meditation or self inquiry. But he's wrong on that.

If it's the solipism video he is worrying about just put it behind a pay wall with a bunch of disclaimers that the realization of these Truths can cause psychosis..and that not to take them on as belief. But don't offer a course promising the highest awakening. That would be a disservice. He of all people know that you can't teach awakening. He already has interactive guides on the videos for free..just do those and improve on them if desired. But awakening is about turning inward.

If you became One with the Universe and there was no difference between your mother and you, or your dog or you, or your house and you...literally..then there would be no separate self. You could not have a preference for your self as a human because you are now identifying with the Universe. You could not have a bias towards yourself as a human because you no longer identify as a human you identify as God and since God is One..it is formless or selfless. But you would be dead. Thus uou cannot become totally formless while in form or identifying with form. You can have enlightenment in which your self will dissolve/die and you will become one with the universe (ego death) . But ultimately it will not be permanent until you forgo all attachment to a finite form. That's why you come back to the dream. That said since you cannot become totally selfless in form, you can still embody the principles of selflessness in your life. Honesty, Truth, Love, others before yourself. Because as God/Truth in its purest form there can be no deception.. you are a limited form of God now but no less God..you just have limitations on how selfless you can be.

The more conscious you are the more you shall align with Truth and Truth is what you are. You have just deceived yourself.

there are stages of development of the ego..hence the model of spiral dynamics. So here obviously it would be the Buddha. Of course to another who is at a different stage may think it's Trump. I think people conflate stages of development with being "better" than someone else when that isn't the case. That's why you can't push a stage orange individual to be stage turquoise. There is nothing objective that says one is higher meaning better either it is where you are at personally in your journey.