Inliytened1

You do awaken then go back to sleep ? but then you are lucid...

Yeah - you play a video game despite knowing it's a game..actually you play because it's a game. Rather ingenious isn't it?

Time is an illusion as are all points of view. They are part of the dream.

@8Ball first off..Leo is a pioneer..that's what he does full time while most of us have normal jobs...I probably wouldn't even have discovered true spirituality if I didn't one day stumble on one of his videos on addiction which ultimately led me to the metaphysical material. Of course at the deepest level Leo is a figment of your own imagination as God as are all beings- (including yourself) but that comes much later. That said..if one actually does the practices and keeps an open mind..without bias towards anything. (And realize that this is not about Leo) .they can actually discover Truth for themselves. .they can actually directly verify the various facets of awakening that are taught on this channel. To your specific comment on infinity, for example i myself, via meditation, have become directly conscious that reality is Absolute Infinity. Meaning it's One which is the same as Unlimited -which = Consciousness It was shocking and one hell of a realization/awakening. That was long before I joined the forum, which came much later. You gotta remember too that Leo read hundreds of books and spent thousands of hours pioneering and trying to wrap his mind around reality. He was an atheist like many of us, and, yes, a materialist like many of us. Everyone has to start somewhere and we all are products of our culture. Anyway, all of that said there are people on the forum that aren't serious about the work - or, they take stuff on as belief without doing the work. This stuff is going to happen and there isn't much we can do about it other than to tell people about the dangers of doing this. Most of his followers are younger and honestly are more at the age where they should be doing personal development and ego development rather than deconstructing the ego and spirituality but that's a topic for another day.

Yes I said 4 or 5 it's more like 7 or 8. Even a female bodybuilder died. Edit - just read that Victor's death may have been misinformation and he is alive and well

There's been at least 4-5 bodybuilders die this year...The latest, sadly, was Shawn Rhoden who won the Olympia in 2018 or so...he was 46. Right before him was George Peterson, who was an active Pro getting ready for the Olympia...and several others (John Meadows, Phil Hernon) before that..it seems all heart attacks. Better just to stay natural and have longevity.

Don't hold your breath

Everything is Mind. You got a glimpse of that.

You are the Infinite Mind. There is nothing outside of you as God.

@Naol @Naol great job!!!! You have definitely got a glimpse of God. But you are not yet ready to fully awaken as God. That is why the ego is still so strong. That is OK. Just means you still have a life to live! Psychedelics will give you a glimpse of non-duality and God and can provide that very fast before you are ready to integrate such realizations. Take ample time to digest and integrate what you saw. Don't worry about not realizing Love or Infinity that will come in time. Do not worry about going back to finite form either ..that is the form you as God have chosen so thus it is imperfect precisely because you have made it so. So just learn to love yourself the way you are first.

My guess was not enlightened but intuitive of God.

Its a great philosophical question...what's your answer?

No worries

You'll never access God Consciousness if you reduce everything to statistics.

It matters not. That is Absolute Love. But ultimately you will not strike it down because the love for other beings is the love for yourself as God..and you will no longer care about your own survival as a finite self...the only reason you would ever take action to strike it down is to protect your finite self...and God understands this too is Absolute Love. God understands that selfishness is Absolute Love. That is the highest understanding

This is not depersonalization. Depersonalization is an actual loss of the sense of self. It is enlightenment in that your identity with the self - the false self, is lost. Yet at the same time it is not enlightenment in that identity with awareness itself is not realized.

It's you imagining me imagining you. It's you looking into your own mirror. Now replace you with me and you have the cancelation of all separation. Now - all of this is conceptual. Become it.

You created various tools which function as triggers to mystical states of consciousness. Meditation is one such tool. Psychedelics are another. But before such triggers could have any effect one needs to open their mind and rid themselves of bias towards what they belive is the nature of reality.

Well for example- OCD - which is an anxiety based disorder stems from a lack of certainty. Doubt infects EVERYTHING...to the point where you can't be sure of anything. How do you even know what's true? They call it the doubt disorder. But if you had total certainty (omniscience) how could there be any anxiety about anything as you would already know the outcome of EVERYTHING. You would know everything WITHOUT a doubt. You would even know the details of your own death. You would be Infinite. Anxiety ultimately stems from fear..fear that something "bad" may happen to you negatively impacting your own survival. The stronger your need for survival the stronger your anxiety may be because even little things could directly impact your sense of well being. But if you knew how every detail of your life would play out including the moment of your own death what fear could you possibly still have at that point? You would be conscious that you are God and that death IS Love. Anyway I suggest when you start getting anxious..just be OK with that. Be OK with your own finitude. Sit and be with it and embrace it as a part of you. Just let it pass and it will.

I don't know about psychedelics but from what I have learned the importance of suffering is often underestimated when it comes to spirituality and awakening to the Absolute. It's deeper than just pain or physical suffering..it is deep suffering from selfishness that can grow you. The more one suffers from their own selfishness the more it tears away layers of the ego that may be untrue - meaning selfishness and lacking in integrity. This ultimately aligns one more with Truth as one becomes more honest and selfless. Truth is not just handed to you - the cost is one's survival. It doesn't appear this pertains to your question though- but it may offer some value- and I will ask you.. has the suffering you experienced on trips grown you in any way or made you a better person? So perhaps for the next trip there would be less suffering?

Yes - it's the ego that wants to react...but if you can go meta you realize that it means absolutely nothing in the big picture..it's only the ego that is giving it meaning. I can go meta now and see that I didn't need to react to this post ?

this is what I call the Oneness awakening. I had this awakening via meditation and it lasted more than a day. It is a shift in consciousness - a non-dual state or elevated state of consciousness in which you are Being. As Being - duality falls away so there is no sense of separation or a you vs other. It is One. Other people do not seem like you - they are you - literally and actually. It is a recontexualization of reality and it can feel like you are losing your mind. It is realized there is nothing outside or separate from you. It is basically like waking up from a dream and realizing that you are the Dreamer. Yet you are still in the dream..just lucid...A lot of people when learning about non-duality think Oneness is so neat and cool...but when you actually become One it is quite the shock. You realize in order to interact with yourself you need to trick yourself into a dual state of consciousness in which you are not conscious that you are everything. You have to be in a finite state of consciousness. Well here you are in an infinite state of consciousness so the dream appears silly. Yet you are still attached to the dream and you don't want to exit the dream. It's this attachment that God has to being finite that feels like it's being ripped apart when in these states of consciousness - and it can be very maddening. You eventually find yourself back in a finite state of consciousness where you can cling once again to separation this is what you and I are doing right now...when in actuality there is no difference between you and I at all...there is One Consciousness. But we pretend there is a difference - bringing about this dream "we" call reality.

Part of going the full distance may actually be realizing the hard way through experience that you cannot "give" someone else Absolute Truth. They must discover it themselves. When it first happens it is OK and even normal to have a burning desire to want to share it with everyone and "awaken" the world. This is the initial stage after enlightenment...But it is quickly realized that this is a fools errand. And as others have said on this thread - other beings are figments of your own consciousness at the highest level anyway so there is no "need" to do anything. Most people are not even ready for spirituality, let alone awakening....you can gently nudge them along but to do anything further will backfire in your face. When Galileo tried to tell the Catholic Church that the Earth revolved around the sun he was imprisoned. He was right- but society at large was not ready.

For itself. Just like red is red. Would you be asking about gravity if it didn't exist? Infinity is itself. There is nothing outside of it. If u get this at the level of Being it will be awakening

I think what happens with you is perfectly normal. The ego does not want to die and it will do everything in its power to stay alive. It will fight tooth and nail against death. Stop trying to fight that and simply understand that the purpose of the ego is to exist. But realize it is imaginary. Understanding is key. Now relax and let the chips fall where they may. There will come a time one day, be it via meditation, self inquiry, or psychedelics, where ego death will be seamless. You will be thrust into Infinity as if instantaneously. And you will be there.. in God Consciousness. Ego death will not even have seemed to occur because - in fact it didn't- it is imaginary. So there will be no bad trip or struggling against death. Continue on, it sounds like you are on the right path. Simply roll with what is.