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Its the same thing silly - If it's indeed enlightenment. What I meant was for him it was not triggered via meditation. There's no "meditation enlightenment" and "psychedelic enlightenment".

False. You haven't experienced "classic" enlightenment.

Lol. Don't be so sure Precisely.

You don't know what you are talking about as you aren't awake. I was talking about triggers. What is a trigger on a gun? It is nothing unless the gun is loaded. If you are not ready for awakening it doesn't matter how much psychedelics you take or for that matter how many years you sit in meditation.

The bottom line is that there are certain tools that can be used for awakening. Psychedelics are one of them. Personally I used meditation and self inquiry. But unlike Ralston I am not ruling out Psychedelics. Him ruling them out simply shows his lack of versatility.

If you take them on as a belief system yes.

The question is would you have found those teachers regardless? I'm trying to point to Infinity. Things unfold precisely how they mean to. This is God's will. You can try to inject your will. But it is the Will of God that holds all. So you trying to raise other's consciousness is God's will. You not doing it would also be God's will. Either way, God's will is at play.

It's the same thing.

Experience raises consciousness.

I get it trust me. It's a valiant effort. The problem is if they are open minded they are going to find the group anyway without you. Basically you are talking about marketing spirituality. If someone wants to find out about spirituality they will. How much you advertise won't make a difference here. Or maybe it turns one in a thousand on and they click the button. Fine. What I'm saying is it that won't make a dent in changing what is going to naturally occur anyway.

Awaken.

It is a mystical state you could say - i.e. pure Consciousness or a non-dual state. It is isness. It is Divinity. Within that isness You can become conscious of various facets. If it is an experience of machine elves than no, that is not enlightenment. Because that is the ego experiencing machine elves. God consciousness is completely void of ego.

Enlightenment is not an experience because there is no experiencer. It is God Consciousness. But taking psychedelics could possibly trigger a shift into God Consciousness. So the whole wording or understanding by Peter is wrong.

For someone that's awake Peter should not be so close minded as to think psychedelics couldn't trigger enlightenment. He's just old fashioned is all. He should at least be open to the possibility even if he awoke via another method.

This is nonsense. If the right components fall into place - self inquiry can trigger enlightenment. Period. Don't place psychedelics on a higher level just because self inquiry didn't work for you. You can say that for most meditation and self inquiry won't trigger enlightenment- but that is different than saying you will have a more powerful enlightenment with psychedelics because that is just false. Enlightenment is prior to the trigger.

Only in your imagination. There has to be something conscious that reality ceased.

It doesn't work like that unfortunately. You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

@Chanratt welcome

Agreed.

@Someone here I have done that yes. Your partner will thank you for it - it's actually a master move and girls love when you can last so that they can climax. Then they will love ya it takes practice and skill.

@Dany Balan investigate if it's psychological or biological. A lot of times if you are anxious about getting hard or thinking about it too much you won't get hard. If its is purely physical then viagra might help but you seem young for it to be physical.

Creation and uncreation is a duality, yes. But when we say it created itself it doesn't mean it dualistically had to think about it then create itself (like the hand drawing itself)....I mean, it IS that but prior to time, space or even thought- it doesn't work in a linear fashion like the finite mind would. Infinity doesn't require thought. Now that's a mind fuck ? but that is omniscience.

@IamYou if reality is non-dual - which you can become directly conscious of - then it has to create itself - in the ultimate paradox. You have to realize that paradox is the fabric of Infinity or reality and logic is content held within Infinity- it is not the structure. The structure is boundless and thus is prior to logic.

@WokeBloke if it is a dream - do you think asking other dream characters if its a dream is going to give you the Truth? It is like being in the Matrix and then asking other people in the Matrix If they think its a simulation. How is this going to help you exit the simulation? You just have to exit it. Then you can come back in. You will be conscious it is the Matrix. And you will not need to ask the others within the simulation anymore because you have stepped outside of it yourself.

Infinite - but what COULD exist still exists as something that COULD. its just EVERYTHING. Everything possible is just that - everything possible.