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It's absolutely sad that you would kiss someone's ass so much that it would lead you to the brink of suicide. Because it's so raw. Jesus man.

I do have every idea. But you don't because you hold your breath on every word some guru says. Need I say more? And yeah I've awakened without ever contemplating suicide. It's feasible and in fact contemplating suicide from the ego's perspective is more ego. Its selfishness. You don't know what you are talking about.

I mean it gave him Truth in bits and pieces because you are relying on a substance. When you awaken sober you get the whole deal all at once. You don't rely on some external substance, imaginary or not, to feed you Truth.

No Mind and Infinite Mind are One. We have been telling you this from the beginning. Zero is Infinity. It's two sides of a coin. You have watched Leo's personal path and you have watched him embrace no mind vs Infinite Mind. But you now see that it is one. Infinite Mind or omniscience is indeed found in quieting the mind. But that is only because ultimately they are one.

This has absolutely zero to do with spirituality. Zero. The body and ego are imaginary which makes death imaginary. Spiritual death IS death. Not the harming of the body that is all part of the dream...this is not spirituality it was personal development for one guy - Leo. And he should never have posted it. @Thought Art was right to question his leadership but more importantly he shouldnt be questioning his leadership he should be questioning his own following.

Stop waiting and live your life.

What is "necessary" is relative to the individual...that is the whole point. This isn't necessary unless you make it so. Again- moral of the story is carve your own path.

Let's be clear. Your existence itself is a bias. But there is no need to entertain further biases. And the need to face the fear of extinction is simply extending the web of biases. You should never, ever, need to hold a gun to your head. Or stand at the edge of a cliff and question jumping. If you want to die and realize God you don't have to harm the physical body. There is no NEED. How many damn times have we said this here ?

There won't be a you if you do that. There's nothing innately wrong with that either. But Goodness is free of bias. What did he say after he faced his own fear of death? That there was no need to jump. This means that his feeling that there was a need to face it in the first place was also a bias of the ego. There is no need unless the ego places that need apon itself. If it teaches you this then some goodness can come from it.

Suicidal thoughts are not deep stuff they are biases. The ego has a bias against even the fear of death. It is self deception and it should be called out. I'm not saying the poem wasn't brilliant it was. I'm also not saying Leo is not God realized although I think due to psychedelics his awakening was fragmented. I'm saying the lesson here is that all humans are finite and you must be your own authority, as @BlessedLion so eloquently points out. His comments were brilliant.

@BlessedLionI'm impressed. All well articulated. You are right...one should never need to contemplate suicide. Gura lost his way I'm just glad for his sake he found it. There is no need for this. There is nothing innately wrong with a fear of death. That is something manifested by the ego. Simply put, that is just a bias against the fear of death. The only good I see coming from it is that guys like @Thought Art see the finitude in teachers they have once past placed on pedestals. These teachers are human, but reflections of you, no matter how seemingly brilliant. And the poem was pure brilliance. Yet they are you. They are your own mind. Because you are God. You are Infinite Brilliance. They are both you as the Infinite AND the finite. The perfect, AND the imperfect.

Helps you awaken (self inquiry can awaken you) Post awakening come full circle and embrace the ego. Merge self-actualization and spirituality.

When you become pure infinity all of that merges into One. And it's not even definable because you ARE it. Call it Infinity. Love. But it is just an Absolute Singularity

Can you elaborate?

Oatmeal is great for you. Keep you feeling fuller throughout the day too...I'm on a generally low carb diet and I still eat Oats 4 or 5 days a week as one of my carb choices. Great with berries.

@kray I usually thaw it in fridge for a day or two...you can put it in water if you want to thaw it faster.. really no different than any other meat....

But you are creating a duality between real and imaginary. Why does such a duality need to be there ? You did because you think real exists "really" and imagination exists only in the mind. What you fail to comprehend or consider the possibility of is that ALL IS Mind!

This is where you are going wrong. Real and imaginary are a duality that collapses. Imaginary exists no less then real exists because they're actually identical. You are conflating imagination with non-existence. Even non-existence exists as a thought in your mind.

Study quantum mechanics and listen to Leo's series on it debunking Materialism. But ultimately you will need to become a mystic. Quantum mechanics shows you it, the problem is that scientists today don't want to look at the ramifications of the work of guys like Bohr, Einstein, and others.

Correct in which case it's not awakening it's someone deluding themselves. Awakening from a dream is Consciousness waking to itself - it is direct Being so there can be none who doubts.

Yeah...this is enlightenment...aka Being. @RMQualtrough you got it man - red IS red. When this dawns its enlightenment. You were issing.. This is Being. Pure Being.

@Questioner you have to awaken to it.

He's definitely out there. We'll- OK I can see where he could be dangerous in that sense then- so if I came off as insensitive I apologize. You were vulnerable and he took advantage - from what it seems from your POV. Though as you said you are biased so it's possible he had good intentions, but his own shortcomings prevented him from seeing this. It's a sad story and I'm sorry you went through it. Glad you are doing good now though.

What you are struggling with is paradox. Be OK with it because God IS paradox. It can be nothing else because it is One. Thus choosing this reality must be paradoxical in nature but at the same God must pick SOME way reality is to unfold. That's OK. You're having a problem with this because it's God but God has no issue with it it's perfection and total. You do. It's actually you that is being biased! ?

@VeganAwake stop drinking