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After 3 or 6 months of success, I often lose touch with my why. I find environment design just as important as mindset. https://i.imgur.com/zN29Bgp.png

Yeah, too boring. You could still glean some insights from a game theory perspective, if you were playing that game, but it's just too boring at this point. Lex's games are interesting.

I guess you're right. It is easy for many. I guess I just wanted to lash out against it.

Yes, It's possible. You can even register businesses in other states and depending on where you live, you don't always have to register a business. You can set up a website right now and start selling digital files. How would anyone know? It's been changing but IIRC, credit card merchant companies only report your income to tax man if you do over $20k + 200 transactions. So if you only do 199 transactions, they don't send that to the tax man, AFAIK. You still have to be honest when reporting your income, but there's no one knocking down your door asking what kind of shady business you're running. Your message includes "business administration", "hiding things from your family" and "rectum". You trying to get set up on Onlyfans or what?

It's not easy at all. You have to delude the fuck out of yourself to turn it into that. Many of the same people who are saying it's government overreach/authoritarian censorship/control are the same people who thought the government was overstepping with mask mandates.

case in point

If Tucker Carlson likes you, you're probably fucked up.

There is usually only 1 good reason to opt out of life, and that's if you're in unbearable, debilitating physical pain. If you're in a psychic hell, you have to figure out what you need to drop and then learn to drop it, which solves that problem. This usually means dropping conformist ideals, which is largely responsible for the majority of psychic hells we encounter. If you're not in debilitating, unbearable physical pain but still at rock bottom, it is ridiculous to opt out of life, IMO. At rock bottom, you're most free to do whatever you want. It makes no sense to off yourself when you're most free. If someone told me I was going to die next week, do you have any idea how many possibilities open up? And imagine if I followed up on some of those possibilities and were then told I wasn't going to die, and then I just kept living like that. Rock bottom is the best place to move up from. Maybe consider, for now, putting spirituality on the back burner and coming back to it later. And do not go into Islam. You will know you're being inauthentic and this will diminish your self-esteem even further. Now is time to build, not tear down. Spirituality is a serious project that involves tearing down but now might not be the best time for that. You are now at a good place to move up but you have to drop the weights holding you down. I hope some of this is useful. I'm just one stranger here rooting for you, but if a million others knew about you and what you are dealing with, they would root for you too. May you be healthy and happy.

@Emerald Thanks! Your insights match my intuitions. I originally assumed the collective here would be more... evolved. I don't want to say "yellow", but something that has utterly transcended: Petty competitiveness of intellectual superiority The desire to be like Dr. Manhattan from The Watchmen Allowing the ego to use intellectual prowess and access to insight as a tool to bolster itself Like, if you're operating on intellectual vanity/hubris, I wouldn't call that evolved or, dare I say... yellow. It seems to me that true yellow would get NO ego juice from its common operations, but I'm not deep into SD, so IDK.

@Emerald Nice insights! I'm more interested in why Aurum is so confident that you and I are unwittingly locked into stage green. I don't operate on SD and don't care much for it. I hesitate to peg myself at any stage because the model fails in too many ways, so when I talk about it, I'm mostly using the terms to symbolize "lower" and "higher". I don't mean to convey that I take the model seriously, even if I temporarily use its terms and concepts. Some scattered thoughts on what might be going on: Orange faking yellow for ego juice If he's orange faking yellow, he's very good at it, which makes me think he might be higher than orange or just a high-IQ orange. Seems to be honest and sincere, which makes me lean away from orange, but not fully. Sincere yellow trying to be helpful If he's yellow, my guess is he saw you and I strongly condemn Musk, and he took that as the ultimate heuristic to auto-label us green. Possibly because he was once a Musk fanboy Or possibly because he saw Leo call us green SJW and figured if it was good enough for Leo, it's good enough for him. Or maybe there's some truth that I don't see. I don't think this is the case because I earnestly tried to see it and asked him how he was so certain I was stage green but he never gave a sufficient answer. Which leads me to think he just made a hasty judgement that he can't defend, which he refuses to own up to. This isn't very important... just an interesting puzzle for me. Any thoughts?

I get the sense that highly analytical tier 2 folks don't like sharing the tier 2 label with intuitive types. It seems like your solutions are rejected as inferior if they aren't clearly formed from a highly analytical process, which you must be able to demonstrate and articulate right now. If you can't, they call you stage green. But this is a difference in cognition, not values. Of course, this is just my intuition talking, I don't have any analytical proofs. Introverted thinking (Ti) (INTP), prioritizes precision and internal logical consistency. It seeks to construct a coherent framework where each piece of information logically connects and supports the others internally. Introverted Intuition(Ni) (INFJ, INTJ) focuses on discerning underlying patterns and foreseeing future implications. It synthesizes disparate data points into a comprehensive vision or insight, often oriented towards predicting outcomes and understanding complex systems. I intuit Ti feels Ni doesn't deserve the tier 2 label due to cognition bias.

The situation is dire. I condone this messaging: Consider the impact this one troll has. Not ideal, but it's effective.

Talk of manipulating the common person is now a mainstream topic that rarely goes unmentioned in primetime media slots. The very people being manipulated are being talked to about the tactics used to manipulate them. "If only Trump or Kamala would have pulled maneuver X, they could have tricked more people into voting for them". This is not healthy and not ideal, but it's where we are. This is the reason we, as decent people, converse on and consider strategies for how to "manipulate" or "nudge" the masses. It's because they're susceptible to manipulation and we're caught up in the throes and manifestations of them being manipulated by toxic forces whose agendas are not concerned with the health of the whole. Even if you're spreading truth, if you're doing it in a tricky, sneaky way, it is not ideal... but I'm all for it because what else is there? If the threat-assessment returns high danger and high urgency, it seems wise to consider and make decisions for immediate, practical implementations that deal with immediate threats with the best tools available. If those tools are lacking, that sucks, but can we afford to do nothing? "Better done than perfect". It seems impractical that our problems get solved in the healthiest possible way because the common person is not yet concerned with that. You can lead them to water, but you can't make them drink... or can you? 😂 Of course, these are just the stream of thought ramblings of a fool trying to think.

Betting markets have turned with the news of likely RFK Trump endorsement.

Sounds like an INTJ trying to understand an INTP. I already tried to get aurum to see the error in his reluctance to make judgements. Judging gets in the way of his preferred cognition. Maybe aurum isn’t boxed in by a philosophy, but by a cognitive function.

Can you admit what happened here? You said Elon aims to help the world, I called BS and said he's mainly driven by ego. Leo quickly criticized my comment as simplistic stage green thinking. You joined in on that frame and tone, framing my critiques as those of an ignorant SJW/green needing broader perspective. You and Leo used an embarrassingly faulty heuristic that looks something like: "no one from orange or yellow would critique Musk in this way, so whoever does so is green, plus, I've seen lots of greens do it before". In the early stages of this convo, I assumed you and Leo weren't operating on such hasty and ill-formed assumptions but after a bit of digging, turns out I was wrong. That was exactly the case and Emerald or Diamond even called it out, but I wasn't sure. When I said "You can choose your biases", you missed what I was saying. Have you chosen your life purpose? If so, you are biased! I have consciously chosen to demonize Musk because I think he deserves it. I don't think we should sit back and call him benevolent and allow his deceptions to go unchecked. I have a whole calculus for this, which you don't have and aren't interested in, just like I am not interested in your calculus to overlook his deceptions. You arrogantly assume that if I saw what you saw, it would supercede everything I see and my entire perspective would be upgraded. The issue is you have assumed I'm ignorant. I guess let's just agree to disagree unless you think we can make some progress.

@numbersinarow I sometimes struggle with cynical thought and I recorded an audio clip a little while back that I think is helpful. I know at some point I have to let go of all the cynical thoughts, so I'm planting those seeds. If you're interested in listening to it, I'd be interested to know what you think about it. It's about 13 minutes long and you might not like the style, but maybe you will. It's a google recording public link: https://recorder.google.com/536f2cea-5f6e-4fe2-b223-5a394298bec6

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Growth. Advancement. Survival mechanisms. Evolution. The problem is, you want me to zoom in on what you are zoomed in on and since I’m not, you are invoking near infinite complexity and acting as if since I have not acknowledged the existence of such complexity through my keyboard, that I am oblivious to such complexity. As predicted above, you want to expand upon the broad strokes and the reason is because you want me to come into the constructs of your world, which arrogantly and ignorantly assumes the constructs in my world are inferior or non-existent. You are proving my point.

Sure, I’ll qualify myself. It’s not necessary but you think it is because it can’t be otherwise. Maybe you mean “inevitable”? Everything exist for everything else. Evolution is very slow. No one controls it and it unfolds based on previous unfoldments. As a species and civilization, we are still highly undeveloped, and to an extent that is lost on 99.999% of the population. Elon exists for the same reason McDonald’s does. Because they were natural manifestations that stemmed from earlier manifestations. They will continue to exist until the aspects of evolution reject them over long periods of time. My mind understood this 1.5 decades ago and much has been added to it since. I know you would like to expand upon the broad strokes above but I don’t care to because you have your world and I have mine. Because I don’t fixate on the same facet of reality as you at any given time does not mean I’m oblivious to the facet. I hope you’ll adjust your heuristic.

Data analytics / pattern analysis + machine learning of custom designed heuristic models. At some point, these will be combined to predict the future with a high degree of accuracy. What’s more powerful than a prediction machine?

@Lila9 yeah, that happens. I imagine it’s quite common in superficial relationships where the girl doesn’t want anything to do with the guy or she doesn’t feel safe or know how he’ll respond. My girlfriends wanted to get pregnant and couldn’t stand my refusal to have sex during their ovulation windows. I wouldn’t recommend having sex without condoms with random hookups but I do recommend it in relationships. Sex with a condom is like getting a back massage with a ski jacket on.

Hmm, I thought it was but I could have been wrong and just got lucky a thousand times. Maybe they were infertile, or maybe I am. Lol. Yeah, I’m going to remove that line because it could be wrong. Thanks. They all got pregnant after me, so either I’m infertile or it worked. Or it just wasn’t in the cards.

I think I'm going on like 6 or 7 years with no sex and am not bothered by it because the cost is too high. To get sex, you have to give something in return. It's possible you're more concerned about how others would perceive you if they knew you weren't getting any. If that's going on, reject the conformist ideals. For those who've never had sex, it might help if you find a girlfriend and have sex with her 500 times. Do that 2 or 3 times. It seems like only about 25% of girls have the good stuff, so try to get one of those. Eventually, you'll look down at it and wonder, "what am I doing?". That's when it loses all it's magic. The thrill fades away and only comes back momentarily, which can be handled in a swift minute. Sex is not as important as it seems to be when we're younger.

Interesting!