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I sense this is his primary driver as well, but I think Leo's read that he's largely motivated by power is also accurate. The right gives him both. Yes, it was clear he was such a character. I was confused as to how it went unnoticed.

Compile a comprehensive list of questions that can be applied to each political ideology. Ideally, plug those questions in a Claude Project for quick analysis. Maybe questions like this: What is X? Provide modern day examples of what it looks like in real life. What are the foundational beliefs and principles that define X? What other ideologies tend to cluster with X? What are the core values of X ideology? How to steelman and strawman X? Are specific cultures predisposed to X? A key thing to understand is that most people are not political, but everyone has inherent tendencies and influences that predispose them to particular ideologies, and all it takes is a big event or some propaganda to arouse their political energy. You can't really understand the ideologies without knowing about the fuel that propels them.

😂 I remember this. To be fair, new information has come to light, but even still, I knew back then the devil that was Musk and I knew he was capable of exactly what he now is, and that it was even likely he would stoop to such a low. I remember arguing that you can use analysis and intuition to see this truth, but Leo and Aurum called me a biased stage green hippy. 😂

lol, no. Of course I wouldn't set out to go to a cave and abandon all earthly things (although I did want that in my mid 20's), but I might be compelled to such extremes if I allowed spiritual development to proceed. I already live in awareness that it's all an illusion. I've already gone meta on so much that I intuit anymore could be destabilizing. I think further development has its pros and cons but I'm just taking it slow for now, and I think a spiritual force is at play in making me feel this way.

It will be interesting to see how Trump's new cult members respond to their indoctrination and which cohorts emerge. One such cohort is the UFC crowd. When Trump first started showing up, Rogan would only shake his hand—now he goes in for full hugs.

If I developed it, I might stop caring about money and my family would suffer. This is just one example of many things that could go wrong. I can't see how it's beneficial to anyone but me. I could feel more free, more love, more at peace, and enjoy life more if I practiced, but I think it would make me ineffective, passive, and really just not fit to operate in this world. It just seems self-serving. I'm sure this take isn't appreciated by many. lol. Don't get me wrong, I know it's nice, but so are opiates. I do want to push the limits before I die, but it's too early for that.

In the spirit of democracy? 😂In the spirit of Democracy, you don't try to steal an election, and if you do, you should never be allowed in politics again. That's the spirit of democracy. I'm sorry if I was disrespectful. It just seems REALLY absurd to me that you think Trump's opponents should show him some respect and do what he wants them to do. He's the most disrespectful person our politics has ever seen, and you want the people he disrespected the most to cater to him. Do you think it would come easy to cater to a guy who tried to steal the last election? For people who don't sweep this under the rug, it would never seem like the right thing to do to assist Trump in anything. You have very high standards you'd like the Dems to meet but it seems they don't apply to the Reps. hmm. I don't see it. I don't know that Trump wouldn't give the greenlight on the same thing Biden did. I can't say it's unlikely or likely. It might seem counterintuitive, but like I said, the situation is complex and there is much information we don't have. For all you know, NOT giving the green light poses more risk to WW3 than giving it. My point is, people like to sit back and observe complex situations with not even 5% of the information they would need for good analysis, and then jump to conclusions. That is the fallacy. Also, earlier, you mentioned something like "it's not a very satisfying answer", which makes me think you would like a satisfactory answer. I'm not saying this is going on with you but this is the very psychological mechanism that leads people to seek certainty in situations where there simply isn't enough information to warrant it. People like clear, black-and-white answers, especially in complex and high-stakes scenarios. This craving for clarity often pushes people to oversimplify, ignore nuance, and cling to narratives that confirm their biases, instead of accepting the reality of uncertainty. And they do it all to serve themselves. Again, I'm not saying you're doing that, but it seems like it's possible.

Trump isn't president yet. Should Biden just stop making all decisions right now if they aren't in alignment with Trump's will? Do you see how absurd this is? Also, do you assume Trump and Biden are collaborating and Trump has told Biden his intentions? And if that were the case, do you think Biden could trust the guy who lies every time he speaks? And then you also think these two totally opposed people should play well together? You voted in Trump. You can forget about civility, respect, and the right thing being done. How do you know Trump wouldn't give the same green light Biden did? You cannot know because you don't have the info.

I'm 100% sure the materialist paradigm is false. They have not debunked spirituality and they never can. I don't expect science to contend with spirituality. Science's spiritual ignorance is irrelevant in the material world. Randomized double-blind placebo-controlled studies are just the starting point. The real data comes in after the product ships. The scientific evidence available shows that RFK's claims are fundamentally flawed in both scale and scope. This notion that because science is spiritually ignorant, it's not all it's cracked up to be, could easily be used to deceive yourself and to minimize its importance. You don't want random quacks taking guesses at what they think is healthy for you, do you? "Hey, might as well, because science don't know everything. Let's try this one guy's hunch, even though actual scientists in the field all agree it's dangerous." Which do you prefer? RFK or real scientists? C'mon man! I've seen through the illusion and it can't be unseen. I know what it's about, for the most part. I tread carefully with spirituality and try not to intellectualize it too much. I think I have a natural gift for it but I don't want to develop it any further than what I have because I don't know where it will lead. If all the people on earth disappear tomorrow, I would then spend the rest of my life practicing spirituality, but the world doesn't need people sitting on cushions at the moment. I was initially driven to spirituality through sheer curiosity and a lack of meaning and purpose. Now, I can see that the pursuit or attainment of spirituality is just an experience, like any other experience. I might find beautiful things there, and I have, and I might experience extraordinary phenomena and I might see even deeper truths than than what I already have, but these things do not excite me so much anymore. It's like how the magic trick loses its appeal when you see how it is done. It almost seems like hedonism and only necessary if one needs to relieve themselves of life's burden.

Dude, think about this statement: The incoming administration's intentions are to end the fighting and negotiate peace. I'm sure the existing administration and administrations all across the land have these intentions as well... but what good are they? How do you manifest it in reality? What is there to negotiate? Have Ukraine give up their territory? Give Putin something else of value? You don't negotiate with terrorists because it sets a precedent that weakens your entire position going forward. Jordan Peterson said in this clip there's a high probability the war will end sooner after Trump gets in office. You have to be an absolute fool to make this statement without insider knowledge. Maybe JP has Putin's personal number, like Musk. Maybe they've already worked out a backroom deal to make Trump look like he solved the great problem of our time. If the war ends as soon as Trump gets in and Putin goes home empty-handed, it will be because Putin wants to strengthen Trump's position. That's the only way that happens, otherwise, Putin ain't going home empty-handed.

This is false according to ChatGPT. https://chatgpt.com/share/67440349-2ff0-8010-bdf2-783e7836afe2 @What Am I I don’t have an explanation and without insider/trade knowledge, I can’t even begin to speculate the motive. Even with insider knowledge, without what is most likely classified intel, you still couldn’t be confident one way or the other. It’s not wise to rely on “appearances” regarding things of a complex nature. If my family found The Atheist’s Bible on my bookshelf, it would appear to them that I’m an atheist and if they saw me reading the King James Bible, it would appear to them I’m interested in becoming a Christian. The more complex a thing is, the more unreliable “appearances” are. Rogan consistently makes this epistemic error, as does the right in general.

There’s a new narrative being adopted to justify this clown show. They’re saying that in normal times, you want steady, competent people running your nation, but we’re not in normal times and so now is the time for risk, adventure, and ambition. In 2016, they justified it by “needing a chaos agent to let our government know they need to shape up”. My bet is, this will be the rationalization that goes mainstream and sticks. JP and Piers articulate it with enthusiasm here: Also, Rogan is blaming the US and Ukraine for potential WW3. Rogan is in the deep end now and he will only get more radical. He will become the most effective useful idiot / propagandist the world has ever known. The post-truth world is about to blow up, hopefully just metaphorically.

Crackpot: The term crackpot refers to someone who holds or promotes eccentric, bizarre, or unscientific ideas, often with a disregard for evidence or rationality. It seems you’re arguing semantics. What I meant was, “respect science”. A layperson who concocts theories which get scientifically debunked and still clings to his theories is an arrogant idiot, for lack of a better term. RFK doesn’t respect science. He thinks he know better than health scientists. He’s made several verifiably false claims. If you made a list of traits you wouldn’t want to see in the person most influential in shaping public health policy, how high up on the list would “Rejects scientific consensus and clings to pet theories” be? How does it affect your estimation of him? Do you give it any weight at all? Do you view his rejection of scientific consensus as potentially good for breakthroughs? Lol

I know a guy with exceptional social skills but is still misogynistic. He has a repressed inferiority complex because he’s short and was always picked on for it, but he’s a popular social butterfly. I think you’re spot on about the root cause though. They need women to validate their worth and when they don’t, they hate them for it.

My read is based on very few data points. What data do you use to assess him? When sizing someone up, you can’t just look at their physical appearance and what they say, at least not with most people. You can do that with Bernie Sanders because he has integrity. The biggest strike against him(based on very limited data) is he’s a crackpot. If he just believed in science like normal people, I might have high hopes for him doing good things. Again, I haven’t jumped to final conclusions about him because I don’t have enough info, but from the little I have, if I had to make a call about him right now, I’d have to bet on him being a high functioning narcissist seeking all the things those types seek. I’m not gonna give someone who aligned with Trump the benefit of the doubt, especially when he’s a crackpot. To be clear, I’m not really saying anything bad about him, just what I think is likely, and even that wouldn’t make him a bad guy if he has good intentions. Also, I shouldn’t have used the word grifter. It’s probably more likely he’s just a delusional narcissist who wants recognition, but I guess we’ll find out the truth soon enough.

11-22-2024 Texas approves new Bible-based curriculum for elementary schools. Teachers can opt in, but state is offering financial incentive of $60 a student for participating school districts https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/22/texas-approves-bible-based-curriculum-elementary-schools

I literally haven’t assumed anything about his diet, but you have. He might be really healthy, but my point was that muscle mass and his talking about health should not be used to presume he’s a champion of good health, mostly because there are aspects of his character that point to a lack of integrity and a disregard for truth. From my view, it’s safer to assume he is a grifting narcissist rather than a genuine champion of good health. I could turn out to be wrong, but in a game of imperfect information, you have to act on the best information you have, and right now, that info points to devilry, not virtue.

He’s probably healthier than most his age. Being a rich elite makes health much easier. You can build muscle like he has while eating fruit loops for breakfast and Oreos for dinner. Optimal diet is better for health than optimal muscle mass, as is optimal sleep. For most guys with that much muscle, it is mostly about the image. The following indicates something as well, albeit, more abstract and not as easy to see as big muscles: Big muscle man Hunts for sport Thinks his ideas are superior to world renowned scientists, even though he’s not a scientist Aligned himself with Trump and calls known right wing grifters friends He seems like an opportunist operating on a niche narcissism, rather than a paragon of health and virtue.

Good epistemology + pure observation + deep contemplation hones intuitive faculties where patterns are noticed by the subconscious and sends them up to the conscious for processing. ”The internal process begins with deliberate observation, which provides the intuitive faculty with a rich foundation of raw data. Over time, patterns begin to emerge through intuition—subtle connections and relationships that are not immediately accessible to conscious thought. These patterns eventually surface in moments of clarity, often experienced as a "click," where everything suddenly aligns and makes sense. At this point, the conscious mind evaluates the insight for validity and refines it into something actionable. This process, driven by the emergence of understanding through intuition, becomes sharper and more effective with consistent observation and reflection.”

Who gives a shit? Is this supposed to indicate good health or a well-developed character? Even if he’s all natural, it says nothing. He probably has a gym in his mansion. It’s not difficult to walk to your gym and meet your personal trainer for a daily workout. The average man can figure out how to workout daily. If I had a 6 pack, I wouldn’t be caught without a shirt, because it’s fucking cringe. LOOK AT ME!!!!!

Pete Hegseth openly advocates for using the military against the left. Someone like this is exactly who you'd want if you were planning on executing something like Project 2025. This is the same mentality of the president of The Heritage Foundation, when he said "The revolution will be bloodless, if the left allows it to be". "Pete Hegseth, Donald Trump’s pick for defense secretary, has written in a book that he could imagine a scenario in which the US armed forces would be used violently in American domestic politics. Hegseth’s 2020 book exhorts conservatives to undertake “an AMERICAN CRUSADE”, to “mock, humiliate, intimidate, and crush our leftist opponents”, to “attack first” in response to a left he identifies with “sedition”, and he writes that the book “lays out the strategy we must employ in order to defeat America’s internal enemies”. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/nov/22/trump-defense-secretary-pete-hegseth-book

I assume Leo has enough self-awareness to not be getting high on putting himself above others or demeaning them. I interpret his words like "Hey, I'm playing this game and crushing it... what are you doing? Are you gonna crush it too, because you can if you want?" I see it as a call upwards, not an attack or arrogance. But IDK Leo personally, so maybe there are aspects about him I'm not aware of. I just give him the benefit of the doubt that he's not engaging in petty ego stuff. If this is correct, it seems a lot of people project their insecurities onto him. Maybe this style resonates most with A-type personalities who have high self-confidence and self-efficacy. I prefer to be surrounded by people more developed than myself because it's the best thing for growth. If they taunt or tease me about something I want to excel in but I'm making errors or have stagnated, it can strengthen my resolve and remind me of my values and vision and make me want to increase my efforts. That's how I've always rationalized Leo's seeming arrogance—as a call upwards.

@What Am I , @sholomar When people you care about reject scientific fact and embrace quackery, such as adding a drop of bleach into their morning coffee to clean them out, would your approach be to respect their belief that bleach is good for them? Would that bother you? What if it occured on a regular basis and they were constantly making poor life choices based on absolute falsehoods? What would your response to that be? Respect? If you don't have anybody in your life who is a common fool, then maybe it's hard to understand the struggle. If this is the case, you might not be aware of the degree falsehood is flourishing and truth is diminishing. But if you are aware, you will naturally ask "why?". And the answer is all the things I mentioned. It has nothing to do with ideology or hate. It comes from a strong desire to prevent suffering. FALSEHOOD HAS A COST! The degree to which we deviate from truth is the degree to which we fuck ourselves. In case you haven't noticed, we're now collectively drifting very far from truth. Also, the biggest problem is not the people who know not what they do. It's the people who know those people are easily fooled and who take advantage of them, simultaneously being praised by the people they're taking advantage of. The whole thing is just sick.

It's basically a zero % chance. Americans wouldn't allow it. There would be a massive rebellion long before it ever came to people like you being targeted. Just think of the millions that rank much higher than you in the anti-Trump camp. They would be targeted first and that process would trigger massive revolt, even among the right. The only way this happens is if we become like North Korea or Russia.

@What Am I If truth is the guide, there's no need for ideology or camps. I've watched my low conscious family members try to be healthy and they fail miserably at it—largely due to the information they seek, which is usually a magic pill, and YouTuber who tells them what they want to hear. Then, they call truth false, no matter how vetted or compelling the evidence. This is the problem. Low consciousness, bad epistemics, willful ignorance, and stubborn refusal to accept what is true, which seems to stem from an unconscious emotional bias. It's the same problem we find ourselves in when we discuss politics or any other topic of consequence. I'm sorry to tell you, but some things are detrimental and others are beneficial. If someone tells you cyanide is all natural and organic and a little drop here and there is good for you, they're right that it's natural and organic, which might make them think it's good for you, but that's false. There is no squaring that circle. Truth is what it is, no matter how much people want it to be otherwise. How do you suggest this problem be dealt with?