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Right. The people say they want a strong leader but when they see a woman project strength, they cringe. And if that woman is from another culture, they cringe harder.

“Suicide should never be an option” person A says to person B. Enter person C: “ well, actually, you’re wrong. Suicide is an option if the pros outweigh the cons”. WTF??

The truth that suicide can be the best option is best left unsaid in public forums. It’s weird how this is like the 5th thread I’ve seen around here where this obvious truth is being talked about like it’s some deep insight. Flexing how much cold truth you know around people toying with suicide is immature and dangerous.

But this is just what some guru has told you. What does this actually achieve? Is it freedom or liberation you’re after? Is it just about a deep desire to know the ultimate reality? What does becoming God get you? Of those who claim to be God-realized, they are very much still the same humans they have been regarding temperament, habits, etc. Nothing much changes. So why? What do you get? Is it a feeling? A feeling of wholeness?

Good point. One problem I noticed is that if young, impressionable people wind up on this forum, the first thing they'll likely notice is intellectualism is the main theme. There's all this talk about understanding reality and that can be achieved with deep study and psychedelics and all this. This isn't spirituality but they're being told it is. That young, impressionable person would be steered in the wrong direction IMO. There's not enough talk around here about embodiment. There's all this talk about growth but I rarely see serious discussions about it. People here imply that understanding politics, metaphysics, and every facet of reality is somehow essential for spiritual growth. The actual fruits of spirituality dont' require analyzing ideologies, systems, or theories. The underlying value system seems to prioritize stimulation over transformation. Again, to each their own, but it's at least worth considering.

To me, the point of spirituality is things like becoming light-hearted, open, loving, kinder, accepting, lowering neuroticism, and things like this that can actually have a positive impact on oneself and the world. These are obviously useful and helpful and worthwhile. This is the higher game. The lower game is what I see being played around here. Spiritual bypassing and endless intellectual novelty. Psychedelics are being used to serve these.

It's all structure. Ultimately, there is no difference in being in awe of a beautiful transcendent experience and being in awe of a beautiful landscape you cast your eyes upon. They're both experiences that you witness and then they pass. And when they pass, there you are, the same as you were, but maybe wishing for another experience. So go chase another, and another. That's the game I'm saying is lower. Awe, fade, seek, repeat, while hoping some day the awe becomes permanent.

😂 That cracked me up

Yeah, I guess I'm just putting my opinion out there. If we're to construct a game, it seems the higher game to me. This is obviously just my opinion and preference, but something just seems immature/childish/selfish about the other ways. To each their own though. Of course it is. So are many landscapes.

Marines deployed to LA. I haven't been following this story closely but this doesn't look good. If the protestors step out of line, and it seems they will, things could get very bad and lead to some very serious problems. This seems potentially the most pivotal moment of Trump's reign thus far.

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I can see how this information would be detrimental to you. You'd have a lot to refactor if the evidence I've presented cannot be refuted. It's laid out. Do with it what you will.

You're an INFP bro 😆

What happened to open mindedness? Take a look for yourself: https://www.personality-database.com/ You're in there as well.

You may be right. I'm no type expert, so I couldn't say. This is just what the personality-database.com reports, which is based on number of votes from the typology community. Hawkins being ENTP is way off. As for Tolle, 94 votes for INFJ vs 8 for INFP. For Rupert: Ignore introverted intuition if you want, but the typology community converges on most of the masters having it as their dominant mode of cognition. Search them up here if you want: https://www.personality-database.com/search?keyword=rupert spira

Yeah, crazy, right? Leo often talks about genetics being the dominant factor for spiritual evolution but what if it's cognitive function, and specifically introverted intuition, which I'm sure has a genetic component, but how much is uncertain.

I sense you're getting at you don't fit in the model? lol. Take it up with Jung bro! Every person I've ever known closely matches a type to a T. Every one of them. I always wondered why my mom couldn't deviate from routine and what her problem with spontaneity was and why she's absolutely allergic to my main mode of cognition. Everything about her is explained by ISTJ, perfectly. It explains her better than she can explain herself. When I read her personality type to her, all she could do was smile. My first function is her last and her first is my last, which explains why having a conversation with her is usually impossible. Every family member, every friend I've ever had fits into one of the 16 types. Not just a little bit in this one and a little bit in that one, but wholly inside one specific type.

Aye yo @Keryo Koffa! Glad to see you back around. Hope all is well!

@Zaza Good analysis. I like the fingers on the elbow. 😂

Haha, I guess they forgot about the "waste" part in the "Waste, Fraud, and Abuse" tagline.

Could be 😂

@Nemra Hmm, I'm not sure. I don't have experience with every type. I think you're either ISFP or INFP. Keep in mind, someone could operate within a specific cognitive domain but have values that conflict with the domain, which can cause distorted test results and an inconsistent personality presentation. In this situation, until those inner conflicts are resolved, tests will reflect the tug-of-war rather than a clear cognitive stack. Also, I didn't think about it before, but what could be going on with your test results is if you're and introverted feeling dominant (ISFP, INFP), your answers might shift depending on how you're feeling in the moment, or what parts of your identity you're currently prioritizing.

Yeah, it's very interesting. It's also interesting that introverted intuition is the dominant function in most enlightened masters. They mostly all operate on Ni Fe.

The people who run that site are arguably the foremost experts in MBTI, so I think their test is solid as long as you answer correctly. I'm no MBTI expert, but as far as I can tell, you can spot an INTP by how often they tinker with ideas, pull apart concepts, and see what actually holds up logically. That seems to be their default setting. If you only do this from time to time and it does not energize you, you're not INTP. An INTP would explore every country in the world just for the sake of knowledge itself. When the Geo Challenge post first came online, I thought that was a really cool thing to do. I'm interested in all kinds of knowledge too, but that doesn't make me an INTP. I started the challenge and the first thing I did was start building a Notion template to manage it all, because that's what my type does, it likes to architect systems. So I set the system up and planned my learning strategy, then made it about an hour into the challenge before I said, "fuck this, I've got shit to do." If you started the Geo Challenge and you're still going strong with it, that might be a pretty solid sign you're an INTP. If you collect and hoard knowledge like it’s treasure, with no intention of ever spending it, you’re probably an INTP. 😆

INFPs are sensitive to emotional tone, so it makes INFP unlikely, though not impossible. INTJ, ENTJ, ESTJ, and ISTJ are known for confrontation. If you're playfully combative in your bluntness, that could be ENTP. First thing to do is figure out if you're oriented inwardly or outwardly. That would get you the first letter. From there, start researching every I or E type here https://www.typeinmind.com/fise and see which sounds most like you. It can be tricky to figure it out but you should be able to widdle it down to 2 possibilities. From there, it might take you some time to be sure.