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FYI, your forum looks a lot nicer in dark mode. Not only is dark mode expected these days, It aligns better with your brand:

This one's funny: function communityNotes(post) { const vipUsers = ["Elon Musk", "Chief Twit", "Donald Trump", "Joe Rogan", "Viktor Orbán"]; if (vipUsers.includes(post.author)) { console.log("Error: Cannot fact-check post from user:", post.author); console.log("Reason: Free speech absolutism"); console.log("Priority: None"); console.log("Status: Closed"); return undefined; } console.log("✓ Verified by humans (while we still employ them)"); return { status: "FACT_CHECKED", note: "This post has been reviewed by our remaining staff member" }; } const elonPost = { author: "Elon Musk", content: "X is totally profitable trust me bro" }; // Test disabled fact-checking for vipUsers communityNotes(elonPost)

@Leo Gura Elon has invested large sums of money in an attempt to control what others say and think about him. Obviously, he's not going to be able to quash all dissenting voices, so he won't worry with that. But I would have expected him to tweak the code so the community notes/fact check feature doesn't show up on his posts. He's already tweaked X's code to make his and Trump's posts the most prominent on the entire platform, which is even more egregious than removing specific accounts from fact checks. It just seems to follow that this character would omit himself and his inner circle from any detrimental fact checking. Simple: function applyCommunityNotes(post) { // The most sophisticated algorithm ever written if (post.author === "Elon Musk" || post.author === "Chief Twit" || post.author === "Donald Trump" || post.author === "Lex Fridman" || post.author === "Joe Rogan" || post.author === "Viktor Orbán") { // Weird, the function keeps breaking here... 🤔 return process.exit(); // oops system crash // Error log: // "Fatal exception: Truth.exe has stopped working" // "Fact checking module not responding" // "Please contact your system administrator (JK there isn't one anymore)" } // For literally everyone else on the platform return { visibility: "visible", note: "This post has been reviewed by fact checkers", totalReviewers: 42069, credibilityScore: "100%", truthRating: "Thoroughly verified", aiAssessment: "Seems legit" }; } // Real world examples: const elonPost = { author: "Elon Musk", content: "I am #3 in the world at Path of Exile" }; applyCommunityNotes(elonPost); // Output: *System mysteriously crashes* 😉 const regularUserPost = { author: "regular_user123", content: "The sky is blue" }; applyCommunityNotes(regularUserPost) // Output: Works perfectly! ✨

He goes to great lengths to protect his image and he has a history of altering X’s code to serve him. These two facts make it unlikely that he would let his own platform prove he is a bullshitter. It seems more like an anomaly than a projection. Of course, I could be missing something as I don’t study Elon, but I do like to speculate on these seeming minor things and make hunches about what might be going on. It seems absurd to think Elon hasn’t thought this through. Like, really??? And if he just allows his own platform to call out his bullshit, then he has more integrity than I’ve given him credit for, but I doubt that’s the case, so the only options are it was an oversight or it’s strategic or he just hasn’t gotten around to it yet or he actually does value what is true to some degree. I think it’s strategic.

Sounds about right. If those details about recent events are true, it all tracks with his psychology. Seems he might be more driven by spite than shits and giggles.

Why would he allow his own platform to confirm he's a bullshitter? My guess is he wants to send the signal that X's fact-checking is unbiased and he doesn't control it personally, so he can better manipulate perception of things that truly matter in the future.

He's an edgelord who thought it'd be funny. One of his elite buddies like Joe Rogan or someone probably dared him to do it for shits and giggles. Or he just thought it'd be a cool story showing how much he doesn't give a shit. 100% he and his buddies had many laughs about it. Obviously, he likes the attention he gets from these antagonistic jabs. He gets two birds with one stone. On one hand, he gets praise and laughter from his buddies, on the other, he gets to tell people he hates to fuck off. It's a similar move to taking a sink into Twitter HQ and saying "let that sink in", albeit less morally repugnant. He knows what he's doing. That's the important thing to focus on IMO. He plans these things out. "Why" is the question... not whether or not he's a Nazi. I think he's up to something far more cynical than what we see on the surface.

You can't really run their web-based model locally. Their online chatbot is presumably using their 671 billion parameter model, which is far outside the realm of feasibility to run locally. Even if you wanted to set it up on HuggingFace, it'd probably cost $20k/mo to run. The infrastructure needed to run the full model locally would likely cost 100k+ in hardware. Running their 7-billion parameter model is feasible, but 7 billion is a lot less than 671 billion...so I think the quality drop-off would send you back to ChatGPT and Claude real quick. There's no way to get around how much computing power is needed to run these models in their full glory. We'll have to wait on a major breakthrough for that.

This is an important insight to have. It helps offset the natural feelings of negativity at that which we think is harmful, but it also creates a feeling of hopelessness that requires strength to endure. It’s easy to fall into a pessimistic or nihilistic trap once this insight is fully formed… IME anyway.

@Emerald well said. I agree 100% regarding the psychological mechanisms in play but what do you make of people like Dr. K and many others who perpetuate this narrative? I mean, I guess it’s just them misreading the situation + bias, but I’ve seen Scott Galloway and many other otherwise intelligent people claiming the Dems have abandoned young men and it just seems ridiculous to me. I intuit a logical fallacy that I haven’t unpacked yet. Maybe those perpetuating it are trying not to further alienate those young men and so they just hop on that narrative because Scott Galloway, Dr. K, etc., their target audiences are young men, so maybe that explains it.

Good questions. I’d like to know these answers as well. I’ve wondered how the Christian’s and everyone will react when 6 or 12 months in and the eggs and gas are even more expensive. I have the same feeling as you that it’s all going to implode and the house of cards will fall. Surely there is a limit to how much the Rs will put up with, but I don’t know what it is.

Yeah, its not that the dems left them behind. It’s that birds of a feather flock together. I can’t stand this framing that the dems have left people behind. As if the Rs have been there for them. Lol. Even in messaging… it’s absurd. It’s just a difference in values. It is gaslighting to act like the Dems have failed in making young men of an opposite ideology feel acknowledged. I’m failing at articulating, but maybe someone could assist me.

😂 so funny.

I know right. I wonder how his image has changed among his fan base. Surely many don’t like what they’re seeing.

Lol. That is funny af. One of the first things he does is appeal to the true crime demographic. With a swipe of a pen, he’s a hero to many. Low hanging fruit. Smart.

I shared a video from a world-class SWE called The Primeagen. He says they ain’t going for AGI, but rather, they’re going to invest in fabricating their own chips and warehousing all their own hardware so things will be more affordable for them. He says it’s basically just to scale the existing tech and to cut their reliance on Microsoft, Nvidia, etc. Seems to make sense.

You might be right. It seems the biggest cause of continued delusion and self-deception. His self-bias video is my all time fav. The one with a thumbnail of a dude shoving his head in the ground. If you value what is actually true more than your own ideas, you’re much less vulnerable to confirmation bias. “Confirm” being the key word. Instead of confirming you are right, try to confirm you are wrong and accept the result if you are. If you just create a rule for yourself to always be open to being wrong and to earnestly check if you are, and then accept the result, I think that’s the best we can do. Many find this too painful and for others, it robs them of excitement and cherished beliefs, so of course the masses are far from allowing themselves the self-awareness that would take that away from them, which is why they don’t allow it.. seems like cowardice to me.

Yeah, Rogan brought that into clearer view for me. He's totally blind. I've known some rich folk in my time and most of them have elitism dripping off them. You can sense the smugness and privilege behind their facade. There's usually a sort of disconnect too. It's almost like they are in another world when you're talking to them. They don't wear it on their sleeve but they have a sort of eager conquest mentality that you can see when any talk of acquisition comes up. Also, envy for those in higher positions and disdain for those in lower. I imagine all that gets amped up when you reach the level of Rogan, Musk, and Lex.

Yeah, good point. It's hard to know because they'd probably act like this for free. I understand how people change around high status people but the frequency and style of ass-kissing seems suspect, even for unconscious fame and power seekers. Also, was Rogan not more famous than Musk when he started with all the Musk hype? Also, outside of power and fame, their personalities aren't very compatible. If Rogan and Elon were normies sitting in a bar, Rogan would say "that guy is a fucking weirdo". Obviously, he'd like him if he was the richest man in the world. Still, I wouldn't be surprised if Elon pays them. He wouldn't have to handle it like a business deal. He could just say something like, "hey guys, you're my friends, when you say good things about me, I benefit, and you should be rewarded for that because I will not accept free press from my friends, and I don't care what you say, everytime you say something nice about me, I'm sending you 50k, end of story". That would make Rogan and Lex like him even more and incentivize them to keep boosting his signal. Pure speculation but I think Elon is slick like this.

Maybe. But the amount of ass kissing is off the charts and I know Elon spends a lot tailoring his image. I think it's likely he struck a deal with the top influencers.

https://x.com/lexfridman/status/1882155179581243518 This is cringe. Rogan and Lex hopping on a live stream to watch Elon's rockets... clapping like baby seals when it hits the landing pad. Interesting how Rogan and Lex are all of sudden intrigued by rockets. The most likely explanation for this is Rogan and Lex are paid handsomely by Musk to do things like this and to sing his praises on a near daily basis now. I predict Musk will have an epic downfall. Someone he's paid to run propaganda for him will eventually turn whistleblower, and there are many. All it will take is one slip up. His whole scheme will be exposed within the next 5-10 years, if not sooner. That is if we don't go too far into authoritarianism.

“Oh wise one with the truths, please, pretty please, give them to me, I can handle it.”. You only feed his superiority complex. Maybe he’d humble a bit if there was a little less ass kissing and making excuses for him. I notice there’s often a flood of ass kissing after a bit of drama. Interesting. I’ll horde all the insights I have around this. Maybe I’ll let you measly commoners know about them in the future.

@Alexop Jesus dude. The projection and assumptions are insane. I have zero problem with capitalism. I like capitalism and I have no problem with rich people whatsoever. I myself want to be rich and I'm glad I live in a capitalist society. Turns out, it's possible to criticize Musk outside of an anti-capitalist worldview. The fact that that's where your mind goes shows you're the myopic one, but don't worry, you're not alone.

I was just trying to satisfy my own curiosity of why Leo invokes Elon's exceptionalism when critiques amp up. It's not important really. I'll give it a rest.