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@Vibroverse Yes, that’s important to point out. Nietzsche’s writings would often bring out conflicting aspects of a given topic. Such that the intended message of a given passage was sometimes the precise opposite of what it appeared initially. Nietzsche is therefore frequently misinterpreted, and I almost certainly have some misconceptions about his views

I’ve experienced strong blockages on ayahuasca twice now. It felt like there was something within me preventing me from accessing the deeper levels. I’m confused because at roughly equivalent mushroom doses I’ve never had this problem, and I’m wondering if there’s a reason for this. I had the intuition while feeling blocked that it has something to do with ayahuasca being more “direct”, although I’m not sure if this is accurate. I thought it would be a good idea to reflect on this before making a third attempt. I made a list of potential things I could be afraid of, but none of them necessarily felt like the complete answer. It seems odd to me that I would react so differently to two very similar molecules. Also, I’m wondering if the process of being blocked like this while tripping could be damaging in some way. Maybe it’s a sign to wait until I’ve developed more before trying again

I’m not saying that it isn’t a valid topic, of course all worldviews have their excesses and limitations, but I think that 3 hours was more than enough time to get the point across. I’ll state upfront that I’m personally to the left of Leo, however we probably agree on about 90% of political issues. I acknowledge that some of Leo’s criticisms of the Left were important and worth bringing attention to. However, others seemed a bit misinformed and lacking context in my view. I could go into specifics, but that’s not really my main point I do question the timing of releasing this right before the midterms. Republicans are likely to take control of one or both houses, and 75% of their candidates on the ballot deny the results of the 2020 election. Republican politicians on the national level are much more radical than their average voters, and are conducting an unprecedented, dangerous, anti-democratic movement. By contrast, Democrats in government are mostly center-right and propose mostly mild reforms, while the “radical-left” are almost exclusively college students on twitter with zero political power I guess what I’m wondering is, if Leo wanted to make a political video, why of all the things going on in the world right now was this what was worth focusing on? I do acknowledge that most of Leo’s audience is already on the Left and could benefit from hearing this, but there’s also younger viewers who might not have fully formed opinions yet. I think it could be potentially harmful for them to hear centrist-sounding criticisms from someone who is rightfully perceived as being high consciousness I did enjoy Leo’s series on Conscious Politics, and think it’s a topic worth exploring more in the future. However, I do question the relevance of Leo’s personal political views to the broader topics here of self-actualization and spiritual development

@petar8p I asked if you had heard of those comments because I was charitably assuming that you weren’t openly praising someone who is essentially a black Nazi. The black Hebrew Israelite thing is an unhinged conspiracy theory

@petar8p Did you not hear about Kanye’s recent anti-Semitic comments? Plus he’s been a Trump supporter for years and has one of the largest egos out of any celebrities. It’s clear that he has untreated bipolar and needs to stop making public statements and go back on his meds I don’t know much about Kanye, so it’s possible he has worthwhile takes on other topics, but “epitome of human intelligence and character” seems pretty laughable

@Tyler Robinson That would mean each of your spawns only lasted an average of 3.5 days each

@Leo Gura I understand the value of systems thinking. Like I said, many of your criticisms were valid and worth considering. These include the Left not really understanding conservatives, getting fixated on niche issues that are off-putting to a general audience, and being idealistic to the point of rendering themselves naive and ineffective However, the other parts where you were basically calling poor people lazy and stupid is not Tier 2. You can hear those kinds of talking points on Fox News. Ultimately, politics is all about survival biases. I think it’s worth acknowledging when personal biases are coming through. I’m less concerned with individual disagreements than with, in your case, literal enlightened centrism, as you’ve actually entered enlightened states

@Thought Art My main issue with Leo’s video was his defense of business leaders and capitalist hierarchy. The language he used was drawing a link between poor=low value and wealthy=high value. Perpetuating the myth of meritocracy and not properly acknowledging that power structures and access to opportunity is primarily what determines someone’s position in society @Leo Gura I am interested in understanding other perspectives. I do question your tendency to portray yourself as being above politics while actively engaging in political messaging on real world issues though

I read somewhere that LSD might plateau at around 1000ug due to filling all available receptors, but I haven’t verified that. I have no idea what would happen at those kind of mega-doses. At a certain point, blacking out and not remembering much might become more likely though

There was a thread on this topic about 4 years ago, but I felt like I had a bit more to add Basically the idea is that if you typed out random characters for a long enough amount of time, that you would eventually end up with everything that ever has been written and everything that ever could be written. That the number of combinations of English characters on a typed page are astronomically large, but not infinite The same can be done with images, because there’s a finite number of color pixels in a standard size photograph. This works such that you can upload any image to the Gallery of Babel website and it already has a precise position within its algorithmically generated series of random images. Try it! It’s super cool! https://babelia.libraryofbabel.info/imagesearch.html What I’m wondering about is that in the previous thread, Leo said that Reality/God didn’t work like this. That reality isn’t an infinite set of all possible permutations, but rather an intelligent process This seems from my limited perspective to suggest a duality between intelligence and non-intelligence. If Reality is both Absolutely Infinite and completely unbiased, then why wouldn’t the astronomical majority of, for example, conscious visual experience in existence be completely random dots? Every conceivable object or structure would then be an infinitesimal rarity in comparison. And why wouldn’t every other conceivable sense or form of consciousness operate similarly? @Leo Gura Basically I’m wondering what you mean by the word “Intelligent”. Does this imply that Reality has a bias against non-intelligence? Such that reality consists of far less unintelligible noise than would be expected from a process of an infinite number of random permutations?

@amanen Does what you’re getting at have anything to do with different sizes of infinity? The way I understand it, Absolute Infinity would also include an infinite number of “smaller” infinites within it. My question was implying that if reality was assembled in a completely unbiased way, then the amount of infinite noise would be far “larger” than the amount of infinite meaning But your response made me consider the possibility that sizes of infinity could be a relative phenomenon. If Reality is truly unlimited, then of course the number of intelligent scenarios could outcompete the noise. Maybe it’s like a version of the Omnipotence Paradox; if Reality is truly infinite, then any infinity must be capable of being greater than any other infinity

There were a series of Supreme Court decisions that created the modern money in politics issue. The most well known is Citizens United, decided in 2010, and ever since there’s been progressive democrats wanting it to be overturned. This is largely what catalyzed public awareness of this issue However, there’s a few other lesser known cases that would also need to be overturned to substantively address the issue, the first of which was decided in 1976. In the decades before then, money in the political system was much better regulated. I’m not familiar with the history going back further than that though. Obviously, the government being controlled by an elite class is the norm throughout world history. I guess before modern times, political campaigning was a lot different, as it didn’t depend on purchasing advertising slots from massive television networks

@LSD-Rumi I know that the stuff at the drug store is unsafe, but I’m not sure about the pure chemical. I tried to do some research but couldn’t find much. Probably not worth the risk if there’s other available alternatives, however I heard it has unique effects, so I’m a little conflicted

It occurred to me that most of us have similar goals in regards to how to use psychedelics which differ from most online communities which are more geared towards recreation. My impression is that most people here are looking for, in descending order of importance: 1.) Spiritual Development/Metaphysical Insight 2.) Personal Growth/Psychological Understanding 3.) A Responsible Positive Experience I think a general outline of how to go about pursuing this could be useful for a lot of people. For example, I’ve done 8 total trips on 3 different substances ranging from low to fairly high doses, 2 of which were ego deaths. I want to go deeper on this path, but am starting to become aware of just how radical these substances can be There are a number of questions that arise regarding which substances to take, how often, and at what doses. When does someone need to take a break to integrate, and when do they need to push things further? Where is there a risk for mental instability, and when does someone need to access deeper insights? Also what sorts of intentions should people be setting at different stages of the journey? Obviously, the answers to these questions will be specific to each individual, but I’m wondering if there’s any general guidelines that could point someone in the right direction. I want to develop a personal philosophy towards psychedelics, but I’m not sure where to start. The idea of “just do what feels right” seems a bit vague to me. I’m wondering if more experienced users currently have such a philosophy for themselves Leo currently is at a much more intense level with psychedelics than most people are ready for, so I’m wondering how someone would gradually and safely build up

I agree with Leo’s larger points that the scientific paradigm is limited, and that the goal of this work is far beyond intellectual models. However, I think that Vervaeke is a great example of a high-consciousness scientist and is something that we should want to see more of. He’s probably at a higher level of conscious development than 99% of people, so criticizing him just based on the fact that he’s a scientist seems a bit reductive. The two videos linked were part of a 50 episode series on the Meaning Crisis, the content of which is a great example of Stage Yellow moving towards Turquoise. Vervaeke is quite open minded, and the things he speaks about seem to mostly transcend ideologies. The lectures integrate a wide variety of perspectives from philosophy, psychology, neuroscience, mythology, history, religion, mysticism, and insights into the nature of consciousness from meditation in an attempt to address this question Obviously, these are all relative and not absolute areas of study, but they address issues that are very important to a large number of people. Yes, the solution to the Meaning Crisis is ultimately to realize that all meanings are relative and to instead fully embrace Being. This is a large component of Vervaeke’s proposed solution! But the nuances of how people can embody this understanding in everyday life can be aided by conceptual knowledge of these topics I think Vervaeke is an effective example of Spiral Wizardry in action. He’s had multiple discussions with the largely Stage Blue Jordan Peterson, keeping it focused on the important issues and not letting things get derailed by Peterson’s low consciousness hang ups. He also talks to Stage Turquoise people about consciousness and meditation Vervaeke does still seem to have some materialist beliefs that hold back his further growth (although I think he’s open to things beyond materialism). Keep in mind though, that most of his audience are also going to be materialists, and you need to appeal to where someone’s currently at to help them progress further. In this blog post, Leo seemed to almost denigrate science in a way that seemed more extreme than his previous statements. Science is still one of the best tools we have for finding answers to relative questions about the nature of the world. Cognitive Science especially is a relatively new field of study, that seems to have a lot of potential for helping people better understand the nature of the mind. Even if someone were to achieve total permanent enlightenment, they’d still proceed to live out the remainder of this current dream, and it would be nice to have tools like science to help understand what’s going on around us

I just had a very realistic dream that gave me insight into this. Perhaps no decision is necessary. God could dream every possible dream all at once, because time does not apply to God, it only exists within each of the dreams. Your mind is then shut off to all the possibilities except for your current reality. Like a prison or a sanctuary depending on how you want to think of it. In my dream, I was trying very hard to determine whether it was “real” or a dream. In the dream, it actually seemed real. I could only become conscious of the logical inconsistencies and lack of proper contextualization to events after I woke up. The reason is that in the dream, you lack access to the part of your mind that can know these things, and logically reason in this way. This makes the dream seem real I think it’s the same way in your current waking reality, you currently lack access to the omniscience and omnipotence of God, so you believe yourself to be some kind of human living in some world. (This is the level I’m still at as well) The reason for this is that for God to fully know itself it must experience each part of itself individually and fall completely into its own illusion… As Leo likes to say, Ta Daaa

He said he was working on 2 courses and a book, so he might be working on those, or doing more intense trips, or just thought he could use a break. He did say he had 100 video ideas for the next 2 years, so I imagine we’ll be seeing most of those unless something changes.

@Bujo I once stumbled across a website openly selling powder on the regular internet. I don’t know if it’s safe to buy without legal trouble though, as while San Pedro is legal, I think powder would count as a “preparation” and be illegal. I’m pretty sure cuttings are legal though. But yeah, powder seems like it would be much easier to work with

@something_else Yeah I just swallow them for that reason. The physical side effects don’t seem to be as bad for me as they are for some people. I leave them in my mouth for as long as I can tolerate to increase potency, but they do taste pretty bad

@Jaccobtw I think he meant clear-net, the regular internet @halfknots I was wondering about this too. The websites I’ve found say that they’re for legitimate research purposes only. So will they ask you to demonstrate that you’re some kind of researcher, or can anyone just order them anyway? And could you still get into legal trouble under the Analogue Act in the US, even for substances not specifically scheduled?

@Someone here Ginger might help. You could also take them sublingually instead of swallowing them. They would need to be kept in the mouth for 30 minutes to fully absorb and 50% more seeds are required for the same effects. There’ll still be some nausea that way though There are also various extraction methods, but I don’t know how well they work

@OBEler Anti-choleringic deliriants are highly damaging to the body. Datura specifically has been known to drive people into psychosis that can last for months or even years after taking it. Apparently, the Chumash would take Datura after a 3-4 week fast and that would make the drug safer as there would be no more acetylcholine in the body for it to compete with, but still not recommended

@Someone here Nutmeg is classified as a deliriant. It can cause severe dehydration and nausea at high doses. I don’t think it’s as dangerous as other deliriants, but it’s very hard on the body, and most trip reports on it are negative. I highly recommend Hawaiian Baby Woodrose though. I had a full ego death on 8 seeds. You do have to put up with some nausea and vasoconstriction though. I’ve also used harmala extracts, they’re fairly mild on their own though. I would recommend the extract if possible over Syrian Rue, as I’ve heard that Rue can be some pretty nasty stuff to consume

@Razard86 Apparently, Peterson took 7 grams of mushrooms one time, and I’m assuming lower doses before that. He had a conversation with Richard Dawkins where he describes that during the trip he became directly conscious of the structure of DNA assembling itself. I guess it’s possible for some people to take high doses of these substances and have their worldviews remain intact afterwards. Which I find odd, because for me and most of us, they absolutely destroy our preconceived notions every time

@Jannes I’ve always heard that keeping them in a dark drawer at room temperature was fine, and they would only start losing potency after a few months. I could be wrong though