Consilience

That’s not really what I meant. You said the problem is people taking psychedelics literally. Im asking, if you dont take psychedelics literally, do you take sobriety literally? If you do, or if there is some distinction you’re making between psychedelic state of consciousness and sober states of consciousnes, why are you doing that?

Do you take your sober state as literal?

Why does it feel off? What is the distinction between sobriety and intoxication? What is the existential nature of that distinction your making?

This sounds like it could be effective, but it may have to be a community wide effort rather than from a single individual

@Joseph Maynor

Thank you as well d00d ??

Thank you ❤️??

During meditation, your suggestion about the surrendering seems to be extremely effective. In fact, over the last month Ive made quite staggering progress with seeing the ego for what it really is, which is a thought I normally identify with, but that in fact is not the true self. Furthermore, Ive gained various insights related to the nature of the body, breath, direct experience, the mind... basically consciousness work is going very well. However there is one strange phenomena I don't understand. When going out to my job, it seems like the ego becomes overly inflated and I go about my day in total ignorance. I start reidentifying with the body, mind and ego, and it feels like the insights Ive gained during my contemplations and meditations are simply gone. Why would this be the case? Why can this work be integrating so well outside of work, outside of social situations, but during the work day, mindfulness and consciousness just slip away? Does this represent a lack of genuine progress?

This is a very interesting facet to beliefs you’ve uncovered... Thank you for sharing.

Another interesting insight along these lines is that the sense feeling of body is not seperate from material objects. You’re entire visual field is filled with this sense of body. And to make it even crazier, the feeling of the body is completely shapeless. It’s the mind that molds it around the visual body, but the feeling body is just like... idk shapeless energy or something. But! Not seperare whatsoever from any part of direct experience. Very fascinating.

Yessss this was a game changing insight ??

I love this. The emotion of Nostalgia has always felt transcendent.... Im still exploring the relationship nostalgia has with non-duality or really any sort of self understanding. For me nostalgia manifests as this DEEP appreciation for the fleeting aspects of reality... each and every moment or phase of life slips by, so quickly, so slowly, so silently... and it’s easy to forgot or not acknowledge. It feels like when impermanence is acknowledged, respected, and perhaps even appreciated, a longing for what can’t ever come back manifests through nostalgia.

I would say one 60 min > two 30 mins. But! If all your schedule allows is two 30 minute schedules, that’s what’s most important imo. Interestingly, Ive had experiences where the meditation quality started to degrade at around the 40 minute mark and by 60 mins moneky mind was on full throttle. But Ive also experienced exactly what you’re talking about haha.

I actually think this is day 28

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Are you enlightened?

That’s a very interesting point of view...

And yet none of these are what a tree is. That is my answer for you. If you think this is from the pov of a human, you still havent grasped what I'm saying. But of course, I do not claimed to be enlightened lol. Im sure the trees have many more lessons for both of us. Much love man, thank you for your perspective and I shall take your advice to heart ❤️

A direct experience of truth cannot be communicated with words. Unfortunately there is no correct answer with words, only through direct experience.

You genuinely think such a realm can be communicated with words? Interesting. I guess I dont see a point in trying to define being into words. If you dont see what “..” is pointing towards, Im not sure what to say.

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Do you not see what “...” is pointing towards? It is referring to nothing which is the same as itself. The tree is nothing at all, but that is itself. But even these words are void of any real truth value. You saying nope as though there was ever a way to communicate an answer In the first place. A tree IS a tree, but what is that? What is it actually coming from and going to moment by moment? Nothing. And I cannot communicate what that means with words. So “...” is the best pointer I can give you. And so there is no answer to your intermediate level question. The answer to that question is found in utter, still and infinite being. And to try and communicate what a tree actually is, is utterly impossible. Which is the point of this question: are you enlightened? If an answer arises, its already incorrect. The question is a paradox. There is no answer which is *precisely* the answer, just as is your question about the tree. Me giving you an answer with words already misses the point. There is no answer, only then will you actually see what a tree* is

Itself ... ?

Beautiful explanation

Every time you eat food, drive a car, turn on running water, or post in an online non-duality forum you believe in science. You may not believe in the metaphysical assumptions of science, but you believe in its ability to create and direct changes in reality. Science is the study of reality on a relative level, which your mind is interacting with every single day.