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Consilience replied to AdeptusPsychonautica's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
More like Anakin activating his lightsaber at the youngling ? Don’t fall to the darkside Leo ❤️ -
Consilience replied to Adamq8's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
No idea what Yang means by soul, but in my experience my “soul” is something that transcends ego, but is still not the absolute. Kind between ego and god. -
Consilience replied to Scholar's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
In my own experience, it was Leo’s no non-sense, mega intellectual and direct style that cracked through my mind. I needed a teacher like that to break through my skepticism, but on an intellectual level most teachers cannot compete with. Now days I consume significantly less of his content. The majority of the work has shifted from theory to practice, yet the first year of finding Leo it was reverse. Much more theory than practice. I think we, as the seeker, have to know when to put down the study and pick up the practice. Like seriously commit to practice. If you truly studied actualized.org teachings you’d eventually recognize the call to commit to this action oriented approach, rather than the intellectual consumption that likely attracted you to a teacher like Leo. It’s easy to criticize Leo’s approach. In a way I agree, there are dangers with how easy it would be to turn all of this into ideology, yet if you honestly commit to the principles Leo’s outlined, you’ll be okay. Again, Leo’s style is exactly what some people need, like myself, to break out of the trappings of their own mind; without actualized.org who the hell knows where Id be. Forever grateful some balled dude on YouTube out Philosophized my rather arrogant younger self. -
Consilience replied to BakeJeyner's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Here's the thing - your interpretation of this experience and trip is valid. Yeah reality is a pretty vicious, alien, and scary place. Everything you just listed cannot be fought using philosophy because it's completely valid. Yet equally, it's completely empty of meaning. Right now you've bought into the story you're telling yourself about reality. You've bought into and are believing hook line and sinker that reality is this awful scary place and that everything is doom and gloom. Can see how this story is 1) a story and 2) empty of inherent meaning? What if the meaninglessness you feel is just as meaningless? What if you were allowed to see reality as infinitely meaningful, beautiful, cosmic, sacred? Mushrooms can be harsh teachers and I'm sorry to hear you had such a traumatic experience. Yet, you can also use this trip as a way to orient yourself towards nihilism. Until you fully integrate meaninglessness through surrender, acceptance, and love, you will be repressing it. It sounds like the mushrooms brought that fear out of your mind and forced you to acknowledge it. Rather than just slowly forgetting about the trip, or trying to mask its lessons with another trip or more drugs, I'd suggest integrating what you learned. Practical take aways - 1 hour of meditation per day, MINIMUM. If you don't have a serious meditation practice, tripping is pretty useless and won't get you very far. Let the trips provide rocket fuel to your sober practice, and let sober practice provide the grounding, soil, and nutrients for the trip to take hold. Journal about this experience. Start questioning all of your beliefs around the experience. In what ways may you be deceiving yourself? Is it possible the trip magnified your own fears about reality? In what ways is your view of reality limited, partial, and relative? Can you find gratitude and metta for the experience? How has this trip made you wiser? Etc. Yoga / Exercise - spend time reconnecting with your body and emotions through physicality. This will help provide grounding and a sense of security. Spend time in nature - notice how at peace nature is. Notice the intrinsic beauty it gives of, how quiet, still, tranquil, subtle, and lovely it all is. A tree has nothing but metta for you. Sit with one until you feel it, and perhaps start by projecting metta towards it. I've found that there is an energetic re-harmonization of my body/mind/heart spending time in nature which is particularly helpful after really powerful trips. Know that you are stronger because of this experience. It's another stop on your path. Let it be what it was, but let it go. -
Consilience replied to Scholar's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Wow that’s meta ? -
What’s interesting is I accidentally stumbled into the 4th and 5th Jhana on an insight retreat with Shinzen Young using his See Hear Feel technique. Eventually you can start to experience the spaciousness of not only body sensations but sights and sounds. I believe the work I did on that retreat has helped with accessing the 5th using a more concentration focused technique because if Im having trouble feeling infinite space, I can tune into trying to see or hear it. Because of the weird stumbling into of the Jhanas, I actually had trouble accessing 1-3 after discovering such a profound equanimity from insight. There’s also varying depths to the Jhanas which is interesting. Ive experienced a “light” 5th Jhana where I wouldn’t say space felt infinite, but the feeling of my body was dissolving moment by moment like quicksand, and extending out, yet not to the degree of what a fully stabilized 5th jhana is. Yeah the degrees and cocktails of the Jhana states are quite intricate.
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Consilience replied to Leo Gura's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
The extent to which Trump supporters will go to deny his defeat is astounding. -
Consilience replied to LfcCharlie4's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Such an un-nuanced perspective of psychedelics. Of course this perspective is true, yet to dismiss the utility and freeing power of profound altered states is to throw the baby out with the bath water. Serious psychonauts know how to let go of the experience and state once it’s over. Otherwise, yeah this is a spot on post. If you can’t find freedom and truth in the mundane sober state, you’re screwed and most likely chasing your tail. Yet perhaps there is a wisdom, an understanding and irreplaceable perspective gained from examining reality a myriad of perspectives, both with psychedelics or meditative states like the Jhana’s. Perhaps these perspective shifts not only open us up to freedom, but joy, wonder and the sacred as well. -
Consilience replied to Guru Fat Bastard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
One thing Ive learned recently from a teacher named Rob Burbea is how even this position of “resting in being” or “simply be” is itself a position of the mind and ego, just as empty/full of value as a position where we are in fact trying to control meditation in a directed way. It’s been pretty significant for my own understanding to see how letting go is itself a form of creation of the mind, just as much as intentionality. Both positions are empty of inherent truth. And to create a hierarchy out of one or the other is to misunderstand the mind. -
Consilience replied to Mada_'s topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Answer to the post’s title - Yes. Physical yoga helps psychedelic trips because of the way yoga affects the emotional/energy body. No. Meditation alone can open radical possibilities. Contemplation, spending time in nature, just sitting in silence, immense suffering can all increase spiritual possibility as well. -
Consilience replied to thestruggler's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Start working through The Mind Illuminated, it has what you're looking for. The rewards of a deep concentration practice are truly a gift... Once you can start accessing Jhana’s and deep Samadhi states it’s game over, you’ve truly discovered one of life’s greatest treasures. -
Consilience replied to Tonypop100's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I would say never forget that ultimately you are the authority of your understanding of what is true. All perspectives are limited and partial. However, be open, willing and trust the intuition that guided you to such a powerful commitment and willingness to pursue Truth and study with Ralston. Apparently the Buddha once said the Dharma (Truth) was a vast forest, and what he taught was but a single leaf. Id consider Cheng Hsin to be yet another leaf, but a pretty big leaf! I do believe this is the last opportunity anyone has to work with Ralston in an apprenticeship format, you are quite fortunate to be able to study with a master like him before he fully retires. May your experience yield deep consciousness and transformation. -
Consilience replied to Explore's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I would suggest orienting your relationship with the mushroom as a student teacher relationship. Treat them with reverence and intentionality and they will recognize this. Understand they can teach in counterintuitive, twisted, and symbolic methods that often times will not make sense until post or even subsequent trips. Ive had mushrooms teaching me things beyond time and space, like a mushroom trip beginning it’s preliminary teachings a couple days before the actual trip merely because the intention of the trip had been set. The mushrooms quite literally began their lessons beyond space-time. The specifics and possible metaphysical mechanisms for how this is possible is beyond the scope of my reply, but just understand psychedelic mushroom species are very ancient, and incredibly twisted teachers. Mushrooms very much seem to possess a spirit of their own and as you work with a particular species of mushroom, the two of you learn more about the other. LSD on the other-hand seems to amplifying your own mind and emotions, whereas mushrooms seem to be a communion of two spirits, your’s and the shroom’s. Ive found contextualizing mushroom trips in this student-teacher relationship has allowed me to learn, understand, and integrate the “art” of mushroom tripping much more effectively. To ground this perspective in practical light - Ive been working with a species for about 3 months now and its moved into progressively deeper explorations of Absolute Love (among other things). The first trip felt like an energetic attenuation with the mushroom, like my body, mind, chakras and the spirit of the mushroom where feeling one another out in some sort of psychedelic dance/merging. It’s felt as though they’ve learned more and more about who I am, my intentionality, my traumas, my ambitions, desires, and even shadow elements of the mind and equally, Ive learned about their spirit and energetic orientation. The more I respect and work towards integrating their lessons, the deeper the lessons go. In this case, if you set out to intentionally start uncovering the shadow elements of the mind and your intentionality is of honesty, sincerity, integrity, the mushrooms will see and recognize this within you. Id worry less about “how” to use them to draw out x, y, and z and more about how can you surrender to them as wise teachers, how can you energetically, psychically, and physically open yourself up to their teaching style and lessons? How can you work with them not just in one trip, but over multiple sessions as the two of you learn about one another at deeper levels. Now I will say, this entire framework is entirely relative. It’s simply a context from which I personally use when it comes to mushrooms. You may not find it helpful. Furthermore, none of it is Absolutely True however you can think of it as a temporary vehicle to move you towards the Absolute or uncover the shadow elements of your mind. Last tip I have - expand your perspective of trips not as a singular trip, but as an overall journey. You’ll start noticing patterns that emerge not out of one trip, but across multiple that only exist in a meta point of view. I find mushrooms to be especially like this because of their counterintuitive and twisted nature. -
This is your problem. You’re spending too much time on the phone, reaching out and trying to lock her time down.
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Happy you find your way. Please keep in mind though that a mountain has multiple paths to the top. It sounds like surrender is what you needed, but be careful prescribing that to all seekers. Some seekers actually need to desire harder, they bullshit themselves thinking they want the truth, but in all honesty they’re still resisting even the desire to desire the truth. Getting clear on the fact that you want to become conscious and stop living in the web of lies our mind’s construct is a critical step for many enlightened beings. For my personal awakening process, practice, discipline and effort have all been instrumental. Do I claim these are absolute positions all must have if they want “the truth?” No. Hell surrender is critical as well. The thing is, Truth is totally off the radar of effort and no effort, work and surrender. All dualities and positions will collapse. Any position you write from will not lead to truth, even the position of letting go of all positions is not it. A total paradox.
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Consilience replied to electroBeam's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I think this is actually in alignment with the Buddha’s idea of emptiness. Pretty sure he taught an emptiness so radical that it rejected even the present moment. Really cool! Also yes spot on about the 2nd and 3rd person perspectives reality is capable of taking on. Ive had trips where Ive experienced living thousands of lives simultaneously and now that Im sober, I struggle to even remember what that was like other than at the time it was a direct experience of collective “selfing.” -
Consilience replied to QandC's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
OP is explaining that distance is a relative concept. It is not Absolutely True. Obviously. Nice insight! One technique you could use to deepen this understanding is during walking meditation, become aware of how you aren’t moving. You’re remaining completely stationary despite the augmentations of perception moment by moment that give rise to the feeling of moving through space. -
Consilience replied to Frosty97's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Just my random 0.02, I believe psychedelics cannot replace the need for manual practice for the population. For example, I've found the only way to really integrate and embody the insights I've had on psychedelics is through rigorous manual practice. But on the other hand, psychedelics seem to provide rocket fuel for the rigorous practices that I fail to see in those who only do manual practices... It's a really interesting balancing act, and one I'm still trying to figure out. -
Consilience replied to Frosty97's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Consilience replied to Tetcher's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Well every time I meditate now I get “high.” Ive been having multiple sessions per week that are about as powerful as low doses of psychedelics but Im dead sober and Ive only been seriously meditating for just less than 3 years. I say this just to give a counter example to your idea that it’ll take more than 10 years to get serious results from practice. However Ive also explored a wide variety of techniques, read and listened to a lot of different teachers, have explored psychedelics and have heavily trusted my intuition. Actualized.org has been indispensable on my journey. I bet if Id blindly started following one teacher I wouldn’t have been able to make serious progress. -
Consilience replied to SS10's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That’s awesome to hear! My biggest piece of advice would say be extremely vigilant about not grasping for stages. That’s TMI’s biggest flaw is that its practitioners can unconsciously start creating attachments to making progress which will actually stop progress from unfolding. It’s also really not in the spirit of meditation practice to be grasping for stages and states. If you find yourself having become attached or are getting burnt out, Id switch to something like Do Nothing or Shinzen’s See Hear Feel. I spent about 2 months where I took a complete hiatus from TMI and focused exclusively on the Do Nothing and S/H/F techniques. When I returned to TMI practice, Id actually established myself in a higher stage of practice than when I left, despite not practicing it at all. Once you’ve gotten to stage 6, Id also start looking into Jhana practices. “Right Concentration” by Leigh Brasington is a good complimentary book for Jhana practice. Taking the time to develop shamatha and the Jhanas will start to facilitate psychedelic like states during practice, states that make perception feel spacious, fluid, flow like, expansive and empty. These states will start to really peel back the veil between the subconscious and conscious mind; the mind starts to “unify” the whole system with itself. Note this isnt the same as Absolute Truth, however from a relative pov I find this unification of the mind to be incredibly valuable and powerful. Feel free to dm for specific questions. -
Consilience replied to SS10's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This. Jhana states are much more powerful than meditating while high. You get the pleasure, heightened perception/awareness, but without the mental fog and lack of focus. -
Consilience replied to Leo Gura's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
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Consilience replied to Thestarguitarist14's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Samurai Champloo wont seem spiritual at first but if you really contemplate the characters I find it to be quite spiritual. The ending is especially spiritual... although again not in an obvious way. I also feel that Cowboy Beebop is spiritual as well... it shows the consequences of samsara imo. I doubt the creator had this in mind, but when you make it to the ending and piece together what the show’s been building towards, I find it to be incredibly spiritual. -
Consilience replied to Leo Gura's topic in Society, Politics, Government, Environment, Current Events
How worried are you all that something very un-democratic will happen in AZ and Trump will steal the election? One thing we all still have to account for is the 2020 variable... AKA IT'S 2020 D:
