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Must have had pretty horrible meditation instructions to meditate for 25 years straight and not understand what the self, or reality is. This is why conceptual understanding, learning from many traditions and masters is so important, not to mention contemplation as an important tool for enlightenment. Meditation in a vacuum seems to have a horrible "success rate." When one can seek without seeking, meditate without meditating, contemplate without contemplating, be a self without being a self, this is when true awakening will awaken to the fact that it was never not awake at all, and so now can truly and finally Awaken.

Mystical experiences aren’t needed to see through materialism. I actually discovered materialism was bullshit before finding actualized.org. The only reason I found actualized.org was because I was trying to find ANY mainstream philosophy on materialism vs. idealism; I was so shocked at how my philosophy of mind professor and science teachers in University were just completely ignoring the hard problem of consciousness. Accidentally found the “brains don’t exist” video... Understanding why materialism is bullshit requires you to realize it’s a belief. Then this requires you to understand that the nature of all beliefs is that they are false. ALWAYS. This requires an extremely high level understanding of epistemology and metaphysics. You have to see that it’s impossible for logic and reason to justify the belief in an external, physical world. Again mystical experiences aren’t needed. Not only are they not needed, they wont do the deconstructing for you. Contemplate either while sober or while in the middle of a mystical experience. Deeply study the philosophy of this stuff via Leo’s videos while grounded and sober. Recognize materialism is not inherent to experience, but is an existential assumption about the nature of experience.

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0ifHks5EYZU You’ll find everything you need to know on this topic in this video. Ive experienced after glow and after shock and neutral experiences post retreat.

5 days straight during an online retreat with Shinzen Young alternating between his See Hear Feel vipassana technique/shikantaza/self inquiry. My concentration was so sharp I was watching the moment by moment flux of the phenomenological field expand and contract out of and back into literal nothingness. There was a palpability to the context out of which reality was arising and dying into moment by moment such that this context, this emptiness, was experienced to be more real than perception, even though it was no-thing, an actual void. Even when the self was manifesting, I saw with crystal clarity the perceptual aggregates that are typically knotted up and coagulated into the feeling of "me," but in this state, even this feeling of me was seen to be completely unreal, moment after moment after moment. Perception was experienced as almost being liquid, fluid, spacious, wave like, effervescent, contractive and expansive. And when perception is experienced with this degree of mindfulness, one's ego suddenly has no solidity whatsoever. It's like form became quicksand and all that was left was formlessness. It was magnitudes beyond anything I've experienced while on a psychedelic. The problem with psychedelics is that they're so energetically overloading this can have a scattering effect of the mind; the psychedelic is dragging the mind into the present moment, sometimes violently. Whereas with this degree of meditative absorption, there's a lightness, a clarity, a precision, a purity that I've yet to experience on psyches. However, it also felt like I integrated every psychedelic trip I'd had on that retreat. Now whenever I meditate, regardless of what technique, I pretty much enter into some sort of absorption state. These states in and of themselves are not "it." It's easy to see the illusion of self and world when in such an absorption state. Can we see the illusion of self and world while we're getting chewed out by our boss, while we're experiencing physical pain, while we're trying to hit on a girl, while we're driving, while we're meditating for absurdly long periods of time, etc.? There are many litmus tests to our degree of understanding besides the frequency or intensity of absorption during a comfortable practice period, I've come to realize. However, having a powerful, sustain, sober satori seems to be an important first step towards an authentic experiential embodiment of truth. Lately I seem to be hitting into the "white infinity" part without psychedelics and the fear of death has started spontaneously popping up during sober practice. I just assume death coming up as a theme during meditation means I'm doing something right.

How many gurus actually teach about the depth of self deception? How many gurus even know the mechanisms behind self deception? There's enlightenment, and then there's deconstructing the MANY processes and mechanisms of the human mind that compose the self structure. My personal theory is that many gurus that end up becoming zen devils are gurus who never bothered to study their own bullshit, aka didn't bother to study the mind in the way that they studied the absolute. This is why I appreciate the teachings of people like Leo or Peter Ralston. Full Buddha level awakening alone isn't full "enlightenment," in a sense.

The chakras will open in their own time as a by product of this work. I would leave the chakra opening to the intelligence of the body rather than the intellect. I dont know much about chakra openings other than what Ive personally experienced through serious practice, which is they’ll open on their own, in their own time independent of whether Im trying to open them or not. Not a yoga expert though. But I can tell you truth doesn’t need fully opened chakras to recognize itself.

Extremely careful, persistent, observation of our direct experience either through mindfulness or inquiry. Usually both are present. Mindfulness could be thought of as experiential inquiry and inquiry demands a mindful mind. Or just sitting and doing nothing at all. There has to be a clear seeing that the aggregates of this self contracted energy do not form anything called a self. A metaphor is this “triangle.” There was never a triangle, only an appearance of one when the shapes a are ‘contracted’ in a certain way. Yet after one sees there is no triangle, you can still observe the lack of triangle even when the aggregates are contracted to form the shape of the triangle. To have this type of observation with the self requires an incredibly sharp, attention and awareness. But once it’s seen, the whole insight goes on auto pilot. Poof. The fun part is, there’s so much further to go with understanding reality than the illusion of self. The seeking turns into a playing and exploration completely void of attachment or meaning, the purest expression of joy and happiness are now possible even within suffering and pain. Of course, this too takes time to develop, “de-envelope” (uncovering what was always the case) and the typical use of develop (cultivating, training). Both of these developings being direct logical inconsistencies yet the paradox resting as the actuality of how the seeker will find the end of their path to be. An ever unfolding, growing, cultivating dead stop.

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By finding an intrinsic source of compassion for all beings. Recognizing that the foolishness you find in them is foolishness you found in yourself at one point. Understanding everyone is on their own spiritual journey's and are exactly where they are, and could ever be; the idea that they could be any other way than how they are is your own egoic projections. By seeing through the illusion of moralizing. By awakening to Absolute Nihilism. By recognizing the underlying primordial perfection of reality and all of its manifestations. By cultivating your own wisdom and recognizing that the work you're doing on yourself is the work needed to free the world from foolishness.

The TB definition would mean you could literally sit for 12+ hours straight without moving and experience 0 suffering. Probably not is probably an understatement. However! Happy for you man. This seems like a big breakthrough... one of those where there won’t be any chance coming back... so to speak

Does your life suck? Or can you recognize the divine bliss of heaven by sitting down and breathing? If you knew such bliss, even hardships, illnesses, and struggles will be contextualized and recognized as primordially perfect. Speaking from someone who has a very difficult to manage illness that’s being exploited as a cash cow by the US pharmaceutical industry. Heaven is still available. As the suffering increases, the harder such a view becomes, obviously. Stop focusing on the immensity of the suffering imo. You can’t change that. But you can change your own. This is, counterintuitively, the work needed to help alleviate the suffering of the world.

It is neither the calm nor the storm and yet is the nature of both the calm and storm no, therefore inclusive of the calm and the storm no? But yes let’s be clear, manic episodes are not enlightenment nor are needed for enlightenment. However, an enlightenment experience can generate a manic like response. Manic relative to what our society considers normal and relative to how the ego-mind interprets the experience based on it’s survival agenda, conditioning, etc.

Love this reply hahaha. Love this apparent paradox! What ever should the seeker do with so many contradictory teachings and communications... my goodness.

Exactly! You don't exist! Which is why you could only be the completely spontaneous moment by moment birth and death, expansion and contraction, yin and yang of creation itself! You are literally creating the universe because you aren't creating shit!

What she’s defining as consciousness would not be how someone like Peter Ralston defines consciousness and certainly not Leo. She says verbatim “consciousness is separation.” Yet goes on to describe how there’s actually no separation, hence defining this “no separation” the same way Ralston or Leo may describe “consciousness.” Ralston uses the word consciousness or being to describe the that which is totally indescribable. How could you reconcile the surface level discrepancies between this video and Ralston? By recognizing it’s all a word game. There’s no objective vocabulary with this stuff so you really have to read between the lines when listening or learning from different sources.

Who am I is THIS. But what am I?

Shikantaza fosho. Literally just jump straight to the end of the deconstructive path lol.

Great stuff above. What I find interesting is that deconstruction happens at so many levels, insanely subtle levels. The more one can deconstruct hidden mind patterns, attachments, distortions, the more one can see clearly into the nature of both the relative and absolute. I remember reading about the “uncognized mind” in Peter Ralston’s The Book of Not Knowing and having no idea what the dude was talking about. Well as it turns out, this uncognized mind is a web of supra-subtle beliefs, attachments, thoughts, views, orientations about reality, that are so subtle our default state of mind is incapable of seeing them clearly. As one cultivates a powerful mind through spiritual practice, one starts to bring more and more consciousness these unconscious cognitions - this awakening into relative and absolute domains of mind is deconstructive by default. When these are clearly seen, their relativity and “arbitrariality” is seen as well. Eventually, this place of total deconstruction is the only fertile ground for authentic construction of self is possible. Thus, if one’s goal is to self actualize, a process of powerful construction, the only way to fully embody this would be through a total deconstruction. And even then it may not be enough. The habits of mind are one of the most powerful forces in nature. These habits ARE literally life!

Full blown Awakening into Love after watching it... I think watching the preceding episodes helps build the payoff.

Agreed!

Yes the same thing would definitely happen eventually. I'm not disputing that. What I'm saying is that there will be a biased against any major contradictions or new discoveries because of the way survival works at the individual and collective level. People's biases right now will be that these UFO's don't contradict any of our current paradigms of science or technology and therefore, it would be shattering if we were to discover something like an object of significant mass can suddenly travel well beyond the speed of light. We already know objects can travel beyond the speed of light from QM - quantum entanglement has shown this long ago. The hard part would be accepting an object of significant mass can. Don't forget that even Einstein had trouble accepting the implications of quantum mechanics. "God does not play with dice." He wrote to one of the fathers of QM, Max Born.

Because if Aliens were actually visiting Earth, it would mean they're able to travel faster than the speed of light. There are more mainstream assumptions in science besides the idea that matter and energy are all that exist. Yet taking this single example, faster than light speed travel - there is no room in our current paradigm of spacetime that would allow an object of significant mass to travel beyond the speed of light. In other words, if Aliens were indeed visiting, these UFO's would necessarily need to be using a technology that takes advantage of forces, laws, or discoveries that are outside of our current paradigm of reality. And even if not strictly outside of our paradigm, something that is beyond our conception of our paradigm that would more likely fall into "woo woo" territory by most rationalists, atheists, and scientists. Also consider the fact that even if an object of significant mass were to travel at the speed of light, this is still absurdly slow for traveling across the cosmos. A quick google search shows that the nearest star system, the Canis Major Dwarf Galaxy, is around 25,000 light years away. The NEAREST. If there are legitimate Aliens, they are using technology that is taking advantage of discoveries we currently have no conception of. There could also be potential facets to UFO technology besides the fact that they would need to have faster than light speed travel that challenge our mainstream view of reality though. Wouldn't know for sure unless we had access to said craft.

Disagree. The mainstream scientific materialist paradigm would be deeply shattered if this was indeed some sort of extraterrestrial technology. Their entire paradigm of reality would come under question. Don't forget the depth of how far an ego or collective ego will go to keep its survival strategy and orientation alive. This type of shattering would be a form of psychological death, something the ego is very much in the game of preventing. Moreover, the most meta-POV on this topic would be to admit you don't know both ways. You don't know whether they're aliens, or whether they're not. We'll just see what happens as more information comes out over time.