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Dear actualized.org members. It is important I share this update with the community. Around three years ago I made this post reviewing the Monastic Academy for the Preservation of Life on Earth, or MAPLE. Much of what I spoke to was valid relative to that point in time, but has since dramatically shifted. This post is an update to the original. I'm sharing this story now as a lesson and case study into the ever present dangers of self-deception. I haven't watched Leo's most recent video on fake-spirituality but can say with confidence MAPLE would fall into this category, as well as fits into Leo's classic video on "Cult Psychology." I re-watched Leo's video on cults towards the end of my Residency at MAPLE and was taken aback by how much Leo's description aligned with what MAPLE had slowly transformed into during my time there. I would approximate 70% of the aspects of cult psychology Leo speaks to MAPLE had slowly fallen into over the course of my training. If at all possible, I would ask either Leo or moderators remove the original review on MAPLE or let me edit it. MAPLE has spent considerable financial resources scrubbing the internet of negative reviews. Now when you search "monastic academy" on google, my original and quite frankly, raving review, is one of the top hits on Google. This could potentially contribute towards harm. Below is a statement I've written and shared on other social media and a link to a YouTube video speaking directly about my story. I'm also happy to answer any questions the community may have. - Last February I left my time training as a Resident at the Monastic Academy for the Preservation of Life on Earth, or "MAPLE." The TLDR is that I left because I watched this vibrant spiritual community slowly de-cohere into a cult. The below video is an account of my story regarding MAPLE, and what I observed which lead to this decision to leave. And it's worth mentioning - MAPLE has self-described explicitly as being a cult; the use of the word is both out of respect for the organization's self-identity and yet critical in that my sharing of this is a pointing to systemic power structures and dynamics typical of distinctly *abusive* cults. It's also worth sharing that multiple attempts at giving organizational feedback have taken place over multiple generations of the community on individual-to-individual, small group, and collective scales. I've personally engaged in all three of these forms of attempted feedback. Despite these prior attempts, feedback has not been adequately received nor addressed. Patterns of harm in various forms and iterations have continued playing out. As of right now, I'm the only individual I'm aware of who has deeply participated in the community and training program who is now making a public statement about MAPLE's misconduct. However, this raises the question - how is it possible that I, personally, could go along with this for three years? Since leaving, I've been in constant inquiry around this; around where personal integrity fractures, and where being a victim to sophisticated, subtle, and highly intelligent forms of manipulative domination meet. However, this inquiry doesn't stop at the individual. While MAPLE and my story are unique, this story is also a fractal of the ways in which planetary systems of power function to dominate not only humans, but all life on Earth. We are in fact in the midst of a global meta-crisis which originates from a collective mind of domination that we are all subject to. To ask where our personal integrity fractures in the face of domination is to be directly in the inquiry of global systems change. The tragedy of MAPLE is that despite what I share in my story, MAPLE's work in the field of existential risk and its theory of change speaks to the heart of preserving life on Earth through recognizing any true change of the future of humanity is a function of the transformation of mind. Attempting to address AI Risk, Climate Change, or any other major threat to life on Earth without addressing the axiomatic root of causally productive mind is misunderstanding where systems change actually takes place. Global systems change rooted in wisdom and compassion is inextricable from mind. Yet, to weaponize this insight as justification for misconduct is deeply dangerous and hypocritical. It's easy to say that the ends justify the means when one adopts a position of planetary spiritual authority. It's easy to bypass the hard work of relational integrity when there's only the foregrounding of planetary urgency. There are countless configurations of the mechanisms of manipulative deflection and plausible deniability that spiritual authority can wield when the only thing that matters is the conceptual projection of the preservation of life on Earth rather than living in the reality of one's embodied relationships. I have no doubts about the sincerity of the MAPLE community, but I also recognize the deep, ever present possibility of self-deception and all of its collective expressions when proper feedback channels are not allowed to exist. The core of why I left and why I'm sharing my story now is a response to this self-protective contraction of the community away from honesty. I do not claim to hold all the answers to MAPLE's collective psychology. I do not claim to hold all of the answers to global systems change. And I certainly do not self-proclaim planetary spiritual authority. But I do make a firm claim that it is only through a personal commitment to honesty, integrity, and truth that compassion arises, at any scale. This commitment must not only express itself as a realization of the nature of one's mind, but must also express itself throughout the behavioral conduct of living relationships, and it is the coherence of these two that gives rise to a world based on wisdom and compassion. Video Account of My Story
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Consilience replied to Consilience's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thanks. Well its true there is that risk when going to do retreats with certain communities. The difficult part is that solo retreats, while more powerful, are much harder to do because of how slippery our minds are. Having outside support through the handling of setting up retreat container logistics, and offering teachings, can be very helpful. I know of very few individual's disciplined enough to follow through on serious solitary solo retreats focused on spiritual work. If you can do though, amazing. -
Consilience replied to Consilience's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The original critiques around the structure of MAPLE revolve around leadership's unwillingness to examine the ways it may have harmed community members as a result of how the organization's hierarchical power structure is set up, both in terms of its non-profit side, and in terms of how it teaches spirituality, specifically Buddhism. There is of course the plausible deniability that the leadership has in fact examined this kind of feedback for themselves. But as a member outside of leadership, the expectation is to adopt the explanations and rationalizations provided, rather than think for one's self, on the basis that those in leadership have demonstrated a higher degree of wisdom, which is why they are in leadership in the first place. I could go into much greater detail, but that's the gist. -
Consilience replied to Consilience's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes please delete the original review thread. Thank you. -
Consilience replied to Consilience's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Thank you. Your cult psychology video is truly spot on. Unfortunately, the only high quality critique I'm aware of is my own video I shared at the bottom of the original post. It would be helpful if you re-posted it on your blog as a way to protect others from going, but I'm sensitive to not wanting to ask for self-promotion. If more resources become available outside of my video report I will reach out though. Do you know of any organizations that specifically help former cult members navigate potential legal ramifications? I am concerned how the organization will respond to all of this in the coming weeks/months, especially given I'm the only real person who has spoken out thus far and they have far more financial resources than I do. -
Consilience replied to Consilience's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
It's true you can. And you're right about the world and about this organization having some good. I did gain a lot by training there. The point in this processing isn't about rumination though, but about contemplation. Sincerely engaging in the inquiry of where our integrity breaks, which is in fact the bridge between how existential insight functions within the relative world of relational existence, points towards our blind spots and lack of realization. So yeah, I agree, it's good to not ruminate! And it's good to honestly self-reflect. -
Hi folks, A question about the mechanism of fasting - does ANY amount of food break the benefits of a fast? One of the hard parts about type 1 diabetes is that insulin sensitivity isn't always stable. Sleep, exercise, type of exercise, types of carbohydrates, stress levels, and all sorts of factors can affect insulin sensitivity in my own experience. These small fluctuations in insulin sensitivity sometimes mean I have to east 15-30g of carbs to avoid going into hypoglycemia. I'd really like to explore water fasting not as a way to heal diabetes, but as a way to detox and heal the body as a whole. What I'm worried about is that as the fast is prolonged, insulin sensitivity is going to change. If I was in the middle of a water fast and had to eat sugar because of a hypoglycemia from miscalculating insulin needs (because again, this it's a moving target), would that pretty much eliminate the benefits then and there? Does ANY food shut down these healing mechanisms taking place in the body? I can't find very many resources online about diabetes and fasting other than insulin requirements start to drop so you have to be careful. Any feedback or advice you guys have would be greatly appreciated.
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Consilience replied to PeaceOut96's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
And water is wet -
Consilience replied to PeaceOut96's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Lol that’s true too. But at least the Buddhist is able to abide in psychedelic states without any psychedelics. -
Consilience replied to PeaceOut96's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Consilience replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Beyond implies above, implies hierarchy. These states are tangental, not beyond. Furthermore, they are wildly less direct if you understand what the goal of traditional spirituality is. The consequences of these indirect, potent methods are wildly misunderstood on this forum. All the psychedelics reveal is the infinite nature of mind. Im not saying this doesn’t have intrinsic value, or provide a certain unique wisdom as one travels. Similar to how when one travels the world there is a wisdom. Lineages recognize the infinity of mind, but recognize there is a Truth beyond the infinite nature of mind that recontextualizes ALL states. Such that any additional, new state whether higher or lower shares the same fundamental essence. This is the true gem of spirituality, finding a peace, recognizing the truth regardless of one’s state. This is what liberates and this is what gives the highest understanding. This path of Actualized.org is like saying the goal is to keep having more and more realistic dreams, rather than waking up and getting out of bed. Of course. And what is the real value of exploring infinity other than to satisfy one’s own curiosity, or truly, to end one’s suffering of the dissatisfaction of the sober state. Buddhism recognizes there is an infinity of mind, and states of consciousness. If you read the texts you’d know this. What Buddhism recognizes is that these states are not the ultimate truth, nor do they resolve any of the existential conundrums of man. If you want to explore them, great! Explore. There is value there, in the relative world. But when you start shitting on the path to truth and fooling yourself into thinking this exploration is “higher” than enlightenment, you’re fucked and much worse, leading others astray. -
Consilience replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The exact same criticism and rationality applies to your understanding of traditional spirituality. -
Consilience replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This is what Im critiquing -
Consilience replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nothing about your experience is invalid. The actuality and ontological implications of your experience aren‘t invalid either. The metaphysical ranking you’re giving them though, the importance you’re giving them, is a distraction and based on what you’re saying, false. This falshood is not to say they’re invalid or not real. The meaning is false. Thinking this is anything other than more mind and somehow higher than God or beyond God is false. Chasing these altered states will only lead to misery when you understand impermanence and the ruthless, relentless torrent of rebirth and as much as you’d love to distract yourself from, suffering. This Leo character is a fraction, a fiction, a pure fantasy to Truth. Know what you really are, and a dancing alien mouse or burning alive in full lotus can’t touch you. The work or lack thereof you do in this life has real consequences my friend. Tread carefully. -
Consilience replied to Leo Gura's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yep. Watching this spiral out of control has been such a teaching. If anyone thinks they understand Buddhism without thousands of hours of meditation, really 10,000+ minimum, they’re completely deluded. Trying to understand Buddhism without traveling into the subtlety of the sober mind is going fail. Hence the steaming pile of shit we see unfolding with Alien consciousness and Earth consciousness. Which btw, are super cool and have profound implications for the nature of consciousness and reality, but nothing to do with Enlightenment other than they obscure the deepest truth when clung to like Leo is doing. The clinging, that is the stench, that is the hubris and self deception in action, that is the Devil. Buddhism is not the truth, it is a path to the truth and not only path. There is Advaita, Christianity, Sufism, etc. Truth transcends all of it and a real Buddhist understands this. However, Buddhism teaches more than a path to the Absolute, so there is more. Many Buddhists do get lost in the weeds, and many turn Buddhism into the goal, not recognizing the goal is beyond Buddhism. But this has nothing to do with Buddhism, only the seeker’s misunderstanding or in this case, the skeptics. Once one crosses the shore, there is no need to carry the boat on one’s back. -
Consilience replied to yetineti's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
This + annual retreats. @mw711 Then you’ll get to the point where even if there is mental activity, the mental activity is seen as no mind. No mind states should be recontextualizing states that have mental activity, such that one sees the peace of no mind is the undercurrent of all thinking. There is a truth that permeates across all, and that truth is real happiness, and that truth/peace has nothing to do with whether there are thoughts or no thoughts. -
Consilience replied to Carl-Richard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
What a phenomenal write up. Love the guru analogy. -
Consilience replied to Carl-Richard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
There does seem to be a growth of wisdom associated with traversing different states. Similar to how traveling by itself can nurture the growth of wisdom. -
Consilience replied to Frosty97's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Whatever is happening, moment by moment, is reality. How could it be otherwise? Anything outside of your direct experience is just more thought. When one knows the world, one understands the world goes nowhere, even with closed eyes. -
Consilience replied to GrandeOrso's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Mostly because there is enormous depth to what can be achieved on this path that isn’t found by intellectually grasping the teachings. Just so happens what is achieved is a direct function of what is let go of. Most people, most likely including yourself, are still tightly clinging to a myriad of unconscious thoughts, beliefs, and orienting contexts that frame your sense of reality. Some may even be conscious. Spirituality is about letting go of all of this, and allowing right speech, action, and thought to arise out of this letting go of clinging and by extension, purification of craving, and by extension, extinction of ignorance around the nature of reality, moment by moment. Be careful assuming you understand. True understanding is not found in the mind, but in one’s direct ordinary experience, manifesting as the behaviors one engages in. -
Consilience replied to Carl-Richard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@BlessedLion Any reactivity I felt from Leo’s comment is my responsibility. I have no issues and took no offense. Nor did I feel Leo seriously meant anything by it. Kinda like when a Zen monk whacks someone with the proverbial stick. If the student takes it personally, that’s where their work is. Loving teachers don’t always show up in how the ego mind projects. -
Consilience replied to Carl-Richard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I used to agree with this sentiment. Meditation + psychedelics are the way to go. And I think for beginner practitioners I do still generally agree with this stance. But the last handful of trips I've done have pretty noticeably disrupted momentum with meditation. They've created these microscopic fluctuations in the quality of my attention and created what could be described as small yet detectable rips in my energy body, energy just doesn't flow as harmoniously a week post trip compared to what I'm leading into the trip with. Because of all of the retreats I've done, my sensitivity to the energy body and mind are way way way higher than when I first began using psychedelics, which is probably why I'm able to see these disruptions now vs. then. However, because of the highly deconstructive nature of psychedelic experiences, I still think they are incredibly useful for most beginners and because of the immense power they have for working through healing, emotional blockages and even energy blockages, I still think they are incredibly useful. In fact, I personally think mainstream psychedelic usage will be a necessity for humanity to confront the growing number of existential threats facing the planet. Collectively, we need something more powerful than meditation to snap us out of our delusion. That all being said, for advanced meditation practitioners who have experienced God many times, who have faced death many times on psychedelics, the work becomes about rewiring the default state of mind to merge with the absolute nature of God's mind. Meditation does this, particularly when one has the vast understanding from prior psychedelic usage, a kind of energetic vision of where the path leads. But ultimately the rewiring process takes place at supra-subtle levels of mind that simply cannot be accessed via psychedelics due to their overwhelming power and intensity, as well as their transitory quality. The microcosmic changes meditation produces simply are not produced from psychedelics, but these changes are required to transform the meditator's mind into again, the mind of God. Because this process of slowly transforming the mind is so delicate, subtle, and demands an extremely advanced attentional clarity, I am not convinced regular psychedelic usage makes sense for advanced practitioners. Occasional usage I think would have benefit. Perhaps once every 4 - 12 months. Psychedelics are also useful litmus tests for how strong one's practice is. If you can't remain clear while reality is crumbling around you, is your practice really that strong? However again, because the process of rewiring the mind from the unconscious to the conscious is so delicate, subtle, and demands an extremely advanced attentional clarity all of which frequent or even infrequent use of psychedelics can disrupt, I am not convinced regular psychedelic usage makes sense for advanced practitioners. This is most likely why teachers are against their usage. The consequences of psychedelics on the energy body and ability for the mind to access subtle aspects of itself while in the sober state is not very well understood in the west. All of this being said, I am still a proponent of their use, especially for noobies, especially in the context of healing, and even more so in the context of existential risk. -
Consilience replied to Carl-Richard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Ive listened to people who’ve meditated for less and are mind blowing. Stepping into their presence sends me into instant, deep samadhi. Are these kinds of teachers rare? Yes of course. The training quality and personal intentionality one practices with vary greatly person to person. How deeply one deconstructs varies from person to person as well, which impacts the depth one can achieve with practice. You’d be wise to drop this “meditates for 40 years and gets nowhere” nonsense. -
Consilience replied to Carl-Richard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Many are deluded I agree, but not all, and this doesn’t negate the value of the teachings. Just look at your audience. This is like saying I don’t eat because eating is a dream. Horrible logic. Anyways yes, meditation is a dream, psychedelics are a dream, and it’s the self interacting with itself, playing with itself endlessly. -
Consilience replied to Carl-Richard's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
> Has barely done any meditation training > Hasnt been on a meditation retreat in years > Routinely shits on meditation and meditation teachers > Has a questionable daily practice > trust me bro ?