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@tsuki It's cool, sometimes I just take stuff too seriously and get confused, I also respect him a lot. I think Leo should learn from him.

Yeh, I kind of resonated with Osho, but now I think he was kinda poorly integrated in comparison with some other teachers... Is Ralston an actual sadist?

Don't fall into hipocrisy here. You might wish everyone to have less suffering, without first helping yourself. Even Leo is still basically helping himself.

@28 cm unbuffed Eating less meat helps me, also breath of fire. Sometimes I have to do it for 3 minutes to calm down

@Marinus You cannot grow without mistakes. Maybe you need to transcend pick-up, as it is making you attached to people.

This reminds me of this scene:

@Shin I'm glad to have you here bro

@ajasatya You always surprise me. How do you even help such a deeply unhappy person?

@okulele I hope it worked

@SunnyNewDay You first asked if it is possible to have an active sex life by going to nightclubs and then you say girls make you wait. You kind of answered yourself if you are telling the truth.

I think that the teacher should grow with the student, just as in any other subject.

Wait is there any explanation to how this works or is it just another real world magic kind of stuff?

What is the definition of correct for you?

He is a teacher. If a teacher is using complex language and no-one understands him, what kind of teacher is he?

Is it possible, that your vigilancy is keeping you away from real surrendering to God?

@Leo Gura How can you be sure, that you are not just trying to be more Enlightened than others, trying to be right in the conversations about God, rather than helping others reach God? (btw I am excited about your growth and I think you've done a lot of progress, I just wanna question.)

Good question Joseph I am excited to see everyone contemplating like this. 1) Physical health (nutrition, exercise, sleep...) 2) Mental health, working on your intellect (being more open-minded, chess, go, playing an instrument, languages...) 3) Spiritual development (meditation, yoga, psychedelics...) 4) Integrating spiritual experiences (The noble eightfold path, embodying zen, selflessness, overcoming fears...) 5) Career, contributing society through your passion 6) Finance 7) Family and friends 8) Intimate relationships 9) Practical stuff (technical skills, time management, cooking your own meals...) 10) Being a good karma for the environment (not contributing to violence, being eco-friendly, political interest...) I'm aware that all of these areas kind of interconnect (especially integrating mystical experiences and everything else ), but these are like some of the most broad areas I could think of, didn't really want to get into too much detail. But it is important to see the correlations, so I will describe what I mean. Physical health kind of contributes everything else, because it sets your body's limits. I can notice it in myself, that if I keep doing what I'm doing, I might run into some serious trouble. It just feels so much better not to eat sugar, dairy, bread etc... and it is like super hard to meditate, when you have diarrhoea or something I created this mental health + intellect area, because I think it is underestimated. Health, exercise and sleep is connected to this quite deeply, but I think, that it would benefit every one of us to sharpen their mind even more, become better at solving problems, to understand the world's situation better, be more immune to bs etc... I divided spiritual development and integrating spiritual experiences into two areas, because there are certain individuals who are just having profound states, without really understanding them, this is why intellect is also important, that you don't get so easily deluded. Career and contributing to society is kind of foreign to me, because I haven't worked in my life yet, but I already participate in some activities, that make my life better, such as working with children. (they are so authentic) Same with finance, I am kind of bad at maintaining my money, but I can already understand, why it is important to invest in myself etc... which is very crucial for life. I also divided family + friends and intimate relationships into two areas, because these are really different. It is definitely possible for someone to have amazing friends and family relationships, while having almost zero experience and confidence with women. Being clever is also very important, because it again contributes towards building your intellect, it makes you more independent, you become able to manage your time more efficiently, better at helping others and yourself. Being a good karma often gets overlooked, but it is necessary for our survival on this planet.

I honestly feel very similarly. I would say let's question this, but Leo could just say that this is totally beyond mind and beyond that which is beyond mind. It feels like: Go jump from that tall bauilding and 1 cm above ground, you'll realize, that the falling was just a dream and you will be absolutely ok. How can I trust, that I won't become totally crazy from dosing 5-MeO-DMT. It is like a strange loop that cannot be solved for me. From Leo's comments after his retreat, it feels to me as if he has grown a lot, but still I don't know what to think.

@NoSelfSelf I want to hear from you, not from Leo. You don't need to answer, just say it to yourself, the practices are crucial.

For me, loving everything is just a feeling. It is not that conceptual, like: „Oh, I love this. Show me another thing to prove, that I love it. Oh, trashcans? I also love these!“ This is not real love imo. If you try to conceptualize it, it will bring you further away and the experience won't last as long.

@RawJudah On the eye contact and talking with people... Are you doing that authentically or just because you want to prove something to yourself/others? You can look others into their eyes to explore their soul, or to signal superiority. You can talk to others because Carnegie said so in his book, or because you genuinely want to help them, be interested in them. Think about that for a second.

Don't fall for hipocrisy, make sure to be a good example and do your best in your everyday life, while staying modest.

Oh my God

@NoSelfSelf It feels to me as if you were just simply parroting what Leo says in his videos without contemplating things on your own or having any serious spiritual breakthroughs or insights. Do you actually do the practices or are you just talk? Be honest to yourself about this.

@flowboy I mean, some people simply don't feel like banging 100 women in their lifetime, it's not a real goal for them. @RawJudah The guys that you named are some of the most humble people, who have ever lived. By striving to become like them, you will never become like them. (have a good life) You have to do many mistakes, fall for many traps to even come close to their wisdom. You cannot pretend real selflessness.