Wisebaxter

@Angelo John Gage I feel like I need to contact Haddaway and explain things to him, in case he's still torturing himself over this question Or I'll just give him some LSD

Ok, so in a non-dual sense, all is God and God is all loving, that's one of the fundamental aspects of God, so I've heard teacher's say and so I've experienced on Psychedelics. But how then can God experience this thing it calls hatred? If God is a smart mind and my mind is included in that, my mind can conceptualise something it calls hatred, so this must also be God's experience, if all is God. So, God does have the capacity for hatred.... Why then is God thought to be pure love and this is taught as the thing to attain? Is it because this is the result of evolution and expanding consciousness? We do seem to be being pushed towards love, which could be God trying to awaken to itself. But If I've hated, God has hated, as my mind is it's mind. Even if my I is conceptual, that's still God having a concept of hatred and experiencing it. Where am I going wrong?

@Zigzag Idiot Wow, you gotta watch that man, it's incredible. Brought tears to my eyes. Let me know what you think of it

@Zigzag Idiot One thing I keep experiencing on LSD is this drive towards being authentic and allowing myself to be vulnerable. It's such a rare thing for people to do when we're caught up in the game of survival. Leo's live enlightenment video really had a profound effect on me, the way he put that out there. It's made me want to do more live stuff, like I did when I recorded my tripping experience. I want to come together with other people who are just completely genuine and connect. That's why I love the people on this forum so much.

@Nahm Yeah I hadn't the whole particle/wave thing as a duality until now, that's very interesting. I'll certainly read more into that, why it can't be solved etc. Reiki classe huh? I don't know much at all about Reiki so had no idea it could have such a profound effect, unlock those kind of abilities etc. Cutie and I had a mystical experience on LSD the other day where we developed a telepathic link, so it would be cool to build on that some more. I'm gonna take those classes for sure and I'll let you know how it goes. I do a lot of Law of Attraction stuff and I know a bit about the universal laws. Every day I'm trying to utilise them more and more. @winterknight's book is a good read? Cool, I'll pick that one up. I've heard some others praising it too. I'm still digesting this little gem...

Beautiful man, this is exactly the way I'm seeing it as the moment. Every time I trip on LSD the thing that hits me the most is the intensity of the love I feel. last time it was like my heart was about to explode. After every trip I'm feeling more loving too, as if its staying me with and I can connect to it throughout the day more.

@Nahm Ok I get this now.....I'm still, without realising it, stuck within concepts, seeing as they're such sneaky things. There are phrases within spirituality that you end up attaching to, like unconditional love etc, because they have such an air of truth to them, but I have to remember they're still only pointers. You're saying that because reality is infinite, it has to be able manifest as all things, including an experience of hatred. Even if it is a fabrication, it's still a possibility so it has to exist. So reality is really just what I'm experiencing it as, at any time? Whether it's me here creating more concepts, or me unattaching to them and connecting to the truth directly. It depends on the experience I decide to have, or that God decides it wants to have. If it wants to fully experience itself, it will.

Man what a time for her to bring up something like that, or maybe she didn't realise it would have such a drastic effect. Also, if you hadn't been expecting a trip of that magnitude it must have really thrown you. I'm nervous about trying DMT. I might skip to 5-MeO instead as I don't know if I can handle how warped it is, with all the alien entities etc. For me LSD is strong as hell and I'm only done up to 300ug. Each trip is a life-changing experience and is do damn intense, if DMT is much much stronger than that....well, maybe I should be brave. Have you tried it again since?

@Preetom I'd agree with you in most cases and I do suffer from the occasional bout of monkey mind, lol, but occasionally I think that receiving the right teachings can steer you in the right direction? Maybe concepts can act as good signposts and stop you getting lost, as long as you see them as ultimately untrue maybe and accept they're pointing to something much deeper. I do sometimes get more confused through asking questions on the forum and getting so many responses, but with this thread I've had a few 'aha moments.' Saying that....it could be because I did LSD the other night and experienced the truth directly lolol. Now I've come back on this thread and everyone's words make sense. So this does support what you said. Perhaps the winning combo is some teachings plus direct experience

@Nahm Does that mean that at the highest levels we can experience hate and just love it? Does that mean that we wouldn't even try to change it, like, I'd be ok hating some politician and love my hate? Or are we always trying to get to a state of pure love all day, all night? I've heard enlightened people like @winterknight saying that the idea that you become enlightened and stop hating, getting annoyed etc, is misleading. Sadhguru seems to have strong aversions too, to things he sees as unconscious, and of course that Jesus trashing the temple full of money lenders.

@ajasatya Beautiful dude...this is exactly how I felt the other day on LSD. That's the perfect way to look at it. Hate is just a 'conditional form' of love and it allowed to exist because pure love is so unconditional. All of these answers I'm getting are remove layer after layer of confusion.

@Truth Addict This is an incredible post, thanks a lot. You explained it perfectly. Hatred is a purely ego based thing, that's why it feels so crappy, but it's still a form of love, a love for something...

@Nahm, thanks dude, that's awesome! So love comes from consciousness, and hatred the mind....

@abrakamowse Yeah, I'm getting that now. Rupert Spira said that only 'non-love' can be created. Love itself is the default state of consciousness so it doesn't need to be created.

@Leo Gura Ah, thanks Leo, that makes perfect sense now. As I felt that I was God and God couldn't experience hatred, I couldn't work out how then I could experience hatred. It's safe to say then that is is God experiencing hatred, but just as the devil, as the ego. Does God disguise itself as an ego so it can play and with dualities and experience itself in so many different ways? I think I've heard you say that. But then it always wants to have the experience of finding itself again? Hence Spiral dynamics etc? Recently whilst tripping I had the realisation that reality is like a play of forms, so God is playful. It also likes to wear masks, just to play, so it can be an actor and almost get lost in the role it's playing. Then you awaken it's like God is saying 'you thought you were you, no, you're me! And you're like 'noooo shiiiiiiit.' Perhaps it loves the experience of awakening. Let's face it, it's pretty incredible.

Thanks for all these awesome replies dudes. I haven't had a chance to go through them all properly yet. I did 300ug last night and it was fucking mind blowing. Literally, blew my mind to pieces. I think I have this question regarding evil figured out now, but still not 100%. Its my mind that's labelling something as hate right? Creating that concept whereas to God there are no such distinctions and all is love? @TheAvatarStateI did read some of your post and I have a feeling you mentioned this, which might be where I'm getting it from.

@Preetom But when we say the Devil's tools we also have to say 'God's tools' as the two aren't seperate. If my ego has a self Agenda then God has a self Agenda, as my ego, seeing as my ego is part of God. The experience of an ego, is still an experience God is having isn't it? Unless we say it's God having forgotten itself...

@Igor82 Maybe nofap is an arena where you can create a feeling of succeeding at something as it feels like you're progressing when you're not fapping. But why exactly are you so adverse to doing it? Were you fapping multiple times a day perhaps? Could it be that nofap has become almost a new addiction for you? I'm just playing devil's advocate here, but is there any way you could remove the guilt from the activity? Could you fap every day for a week and not give a shit? The Sedona method is very good. You ask Can I live with this? Can I let this go? Will I let this go? When will I let this go? You can answer yes or no to any question, it doesn't matter, just keep doing it. In my experience it's the guilt that locks us into a habit, the neurosis behind it. But yeah, definitely try posting less, see if that helps. Also make a note of every time you either think about fapping or nofap during the day, to get an idea of how much its dominating your consciousness. You said you need to wind down after work. Is your job quite stressful then?

I've taken 200ug of LSD two weekends in a row now, had amazing, insightful experiences both times, now I'm tempted to trip again this weekend. A buddy of mine is a bit concerned that I might be getting hooked on it. The thing is, I can feel that I'm getting such amazing growth from it. I feel so much more mellow, less anxious and in control of my life. Every time I trip I get deeper and deeper insights into how I'm holding myself back in life, not to mention the nature of reality in general. I'm a firm believer in going with the heart and I'm sure that when my body and mind has had enough it'll let me know, but right now my intuition is saying - go for it! What do you guys think? I also want to keep increasing my dosage to try and achieve ego death, which I haven't really experienced so far, not intensely anyway.

@improvementedward Yes mate definitely, I am a bit of a pleasure seeker. I suppose it's about developing mindfulness into your emotional state and knowing why exactly you want to trip, what's your intention. If it's for an escape or for a buzz, then best to wait eh?

@Bluebird Thanks for the advice buddy. What was it about the 600ug trip that made it so beautiful? Do you have a trip report written for that one?

Thank you for documenting your journey with these sentence completions. I've just finished reading the book myself and I'm about to start them. Your videos are awesome too. I love how expressive and natural you are.

@Zigzag Idiot Wow, 4hrs....I thought DMT trips usually only lasted 15mins or so. Do you think it's because you snorted it? What made it such a bad experience, the sheer length of it? Or that feeling of heaviness you mentioned? People usually say those geometric shoes are beautiful, but that wasn't your experience? Yeah 5-MeO DMT is supposed to be a completely different beast. I'm working my way up to that one. Have some more LSD arriving today and am tempted to trip again, even though it's only been a week lol Great journalisms by the way...those posts your posting about look awesome. Gonna out them on my list.

@Maya_0 Yes I think you've nailed it there, thanks

@kieranperez I think you're right to skeptical, based on your experience. I don't have any experience with Adderall, but I can say personally, Modafinil allowed me to go so deep into being that my monkey mind seems to have lessened considerably, even weeks after taking it. I have taken some LSD since then too, so that could have contributed, but I think it was largely the Modafinil. Maybe give it a try for a few days and see how you get on...it might be one of those situations where that's the best way of knowing how your mind and body will react to it. It seems to me that most of the people commenting on this thread have had a positive experience, so I'm optimistic that you'll get something from it.