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Self enquiry is bomb af. The way I see it...trying to use breath meditation to get enlightened is like trying to slowly dissolve the whole fabric by using a stable, consistent, weaker acid.... Where self enquiry is like stabbing small holes the fabric with a fucking pencil. I prefer self enquiry's more "active" approach.

I think we value a dead body in the same way we value an alive one. Valuing memories, thoughts, mental functions...I guess it's all imagined value isint it

@Joseph Maynor Fuck you and fuck leo, I'm here for truth and I don't give a shite about being nice or not being nice. If you want someone to talk nice to go to church

@Emanyalpsid I can tell straight away that that guy is massively misunderstanding what Leo is saying. It's actually quite arrogant of him to be that aggressive, especially when he thinks Leo is wrong because he doesent understand what he's actually saying. In the first few minutes leo is stating a very simple insight regarding the subconscious protection of the ego. That's why you feel a physical "jump" and and an emotional recoil if anyone says something against something that you strongly believe in. It's a protective mechanism...I have them as well. Anything your heart wants to protect. And that guy has his mind made up that Leo is wrong and he's Gona prove it. This guy sounds hasty, overdramatic, manipulative sounding...be careful. But the good news is you don't have to believe leo anyway. Test it! Especially when it scones to meditation and enlightenment work...it actually works against you if you believe something about it. Leo says himself not to believe him. So infact I agree with this guys motive...question leo! Don't believe him, see for yourself

@Nadosa yo mate I'm pretty sure that's a good thing

@Wisebaxter but yes mate, I experience strange manifestations every time I meditate now. It's so weird, I can feel the inside of my throat opening cooling is how I'd describe it best I think... I know it's a direct manifestation of the meditation because I feel it becoming more intense after every question during self enquiry

@Wisebaxter yo dawg, just be careful. The idea that there is "something to be good at" is actually a sign that you have subconsciously created an idea about what meditation/reality is. Which is of course the thing we are trying to avoid (per say). Think about it, how can you be good at something...if you don't know what it is your trying to be good at? The answer is, you can't. And so to believe that your getting better at something, is to have created an idea about what it is that "your" "trying" to "get better at". The spiritual ego is necessary, but it's crucial that you remember that, during meditation, the only "thing" "your" meant to be "doing" is mindlessly observing...whatever it is that takes place.

@Flammable Mr Watts is some man. He has a very composed and "hyper-logical" feel to his lectures.

fuck me sideways boys, this insight hit me square in the face today and I near shite ma'sel. Ok so, think about it...to attempt to "let go" would be to create the idea that there is something to let go of...therefore, to "try to let go" would be to cause us to solidify, in our minds, the ideas (that we've created) about what we're letting go of. THEREFORE the only way to truly let go is to not let go...to hold tightly to that which we are observing and to do absolutely nothing about it. just remember, don't believe me Jesus guys, I had my first split second of raw consciousness the other day...felt like fucking lightning for 0.3 seconds, & for 30 seconds after I FULLY realised that consciousness is the only thing that exists. for 30 seconds i had it!!! i had a smoke of grass the help raise the old consciousness to so that helped. I also realised that Leo and his band of physical outlaws here...what we're actually doing, is literally creating prophets of god...people who will change the groundings of the future of the entire human race. The knowledge we possess will shape the future generations until the end of our existence. When this information (or lack thereof;) ) becomes global, we will be known as the forerunners, the founding fathers. anyone who takes on this work becomes transformed, and subsequently, lead others to transformation and so on and so on. We hold in our hand the keys to truth, death, peace and God. Holy.fucking.shitballs

@Serotoninluv yes! No expectations...because if I'm looking for "reality" what I'm actually looking for is my perception of reality. Because how can [I think] I know what I'm looking for unless it is an idea in my mind. And so to "seek" anything would be to seek an idea and not true reality.

@SoonHei thats a good analogy for it mate. Love it

super refreshing to hear this being talked about on camera, knowing that loads of people are gona be exposed to it!!!

@robdl i havent got a lot of the answers yet, im onto it though. I can understand everything your saying but i still have to get there myself. But i know it'll come

@Joseph Maynor its mental is what it is

@peanutspathtotruth Namaste brother,

I'm 88% self-centred. I mean, it's hard to take into consideration, other people's problems when they don't exist lol.

Oh and see if you do breath meditation and just sort of..."let go" of trying to hear the messages from god...they all of a sudden rise up and you'll have them again. Bringing yourself to complete and utter physical and *mental* stillness/absence...removes the requirement for the messages to be hidden. But don't grab onto them. Only watch them, (I take small mental notes when I see them...small enough that they don't interrupt the message itself.) Then when I come out of meditation I know what I'm doing wrong. Check it out: 1 John 2:20 "But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things." - you have an 'unction' from the Holy One (God). - you know all things. 1 Corinthians 2:16 "For who hath known the mind of the Lord, that he may instruct him? *But we have the mind of Christ*." You have Jesus' mind. Side note: (1 Corinthians 12:27 says "Now you are the body of Jesus Christ." So your mind is Jesus and your body is Jesus...1 john 4:17 says "In this world we are as Jesus." Ask yourself, with these verses in mind, "what part of me *isint* Jesus?" *Hint* hint* hint *hint* hint*...)

@Joshe yo, make sure and read my reply here (I think your more on the ball than you realise)... What's up mate. So yeah, I was raised Christian and (because I tend to always question everything) I obviously questioned Christianity and everything with it, quite a lot. I mean, if these Christians are right...and there is a thing called "god", and if he is as big as they say he is...then I should definitely start studying this "god". And so I did. But the way I think about things, I have a tendancy to get to the bottom of them quickly, but god was different. It felt different every time. I was struggling to make progress, and I started to "let god lead me." The nondual understanding of "God" is that he is just everything (you'll need to find that yourself though, through meditation.) But I actually found a way in which me and "god" could communicate. It felt really fuzzy at the start...unsure, like trying to send codes to eachother, hidden in larger messages. I got better and better at recognising when I was getting a hidden message from "him" (I don't actually know what god really is yet either btw). You can actually summon these messages when you get good at it. Actually the only reason I'm here right now is because of one of these hidden messages. I was watching this bald guy on utube one time, talking about some deep shit (which I always love), and boom...got a little note in through my subconscious right then. When I feel the nudge I have to let it manifest into words so I can understand it. The message behind it was "dig here" as if it was telling me where there was treasure buried under the ground. The bald guy on utube was leo. So I had learned to always obey God in church, so I did. Then BOOM. I'm on my way to oneness with god. One important point to make is that god is not what you think he is...because what you think he is, is a thought...god is not a thought. So feel free to let go of everything you know about God and just operate at the bare minimum knowledge you can work with...and listen for his messages lol. But yeah, I shit you not...whether it was my subconscious, or I don't know what the fuck it was...I got a clear little small message telling me to stick with leo. I kind of thought, "how the fuck does this guy have deeper spiritual insights than my Christian teachers." But yo ****check this out, you are in what I call the "sweet spot." This is important. It's hard for me to explain, but this is like...a superpower for spiritual work. People usually have to get into lucid dreaming, psychoanalysis, and deep meditative states to hear god like this. But see if you apply these messages to meditation. It's like, you skip over so many of the common problems in meditation. I've heard about people getting stuck on ONE PROBLEM for 10 YEARS. And I'm over here skipping over 5 problems a week. When I say "problem" I'm talking about the little traps your mind creates. False truths and dead end avenues. Get good at deciphering the codes, and recognising when there is one of these hidden codes laced in your conscience thoughts (and dreams). Something that might encourage you, is something that encouraged me...this god has shown me the profundity that awaits those who continue and become enlightened. I can't even begin to describe how worth it, it is. God wants to help you...let him

@theking00 go to the "meditation, conscious etc" thread...then the top two are enlightenment exercises and Leo's practical guide to enlightenment. Read Leo's practical guide to enlightenment.

Leave no room for anything else other than pure, raw, present REALITY baby. and you'll be on your way to FUCKEN ENLIGHTENMENT like me ;);)

Nothing exists other than pure reality (apparently). Even the statement that everything is false, is false. Words and thoughts alike, create (what you might think of as) a parallel world...a reflection of reality. Reality is not what you think it is, because what you think reality is, is still just a thought and not actually reality. This leaves one inherent problem, you cannot be told how to find enlightenment. Moral of the story, don't trust words or thoughts. I'm not saying don't use them, you need to (at the start) for your spiritual walk to happen. I don't know how, it just is lol. The best advice i can give...is believe nothing, especially everything I'm telling you right now

@Preetom I would say the value of the world would stay exactly the same, since all value is belief (or so I would believe). Regarding the functuality of the world (financially), if everyone ripped up their money the global economy would probably die instantly, leaving everyone to their own power to extract oil from fossils for their fuel, harness the power of electricity from somewhere somehow to power their phone and house. Everyone would either have to instantly agree to a different method of trade, or probably die. Lol but sure death apparently doesent exist either (that one I still need to discover.)

@theking00 just be sure to let go of spiritual things *especially*, when your meditating...that shit'll sabotage your ass. And sabotage your spiritual walk

@theking00 the worst kind of ego. In the bible, 2 corinthians 11:14 says "Satan comes in the form of an angel of light." The goal of spirituality is to eradicate the ego. The problem is, you can't move towards what does not exist. You can only move away from what does exist. So there's a shit ton of tricks your mind is Gona play on you. I've had it before. It's easier to deal with thoughts and ideas that are blatantly opposing to your spiritual walk...but when ideas *about* spirituality manifest it takes you to be very clever and persistent to beat 'em. It's paradoxical as fuck, at the start you absolutely *need* to allow certain aspects of the false spiritual ego to rise. You need to create some ideas about what spirituality/enlightenment is, otherwise why would you meditate? You would have no goal. A lot of stuff is still very fresh for me and so, even though I have these truths...a lot of them are still super confusing for me. But confusion is good. The only two things you need to know about the "spiritual ego" is 1. It's absolutely necessary. 2. It will trap you if you rely on it. Do not rely on any knowledge you have about reality, because any *knowledge* you have *about* reality is not itself reality...it's still knowledge (which is in your head). This is as close as I'm Gona get to explaining it clearly. Good luck