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I’d say the line is you. To be objectively compassionate (if that’s a thing) allows for any authentic response when there’s the undefined space of awareness between you and other. Messages can be given in a number of ways depending on the situation (dynamic)

Thanks for sharing your experience Hmm but isn’t this how most heightened empathy is developed? Sounds like you were super susceptible particularly to irregularities and maybe even negative energy. Like a defense mechanism is activated in specific situations and boom you’re flooded with response energy I hear ya there, I remember the first time I realized I had gaslighted my little sister, had been in deep pain myself and so it took a while for me to realize and own up to it, felt really bad All good stuff appreciate your perspectives, I better watch it overthinking all these dynamics, ever-so complex, and theirs only me I can really actually influence Here’s an example of what I would consider codependent empath: my mother: she’s unable to excuse herself from a conversation with a complete stranger because she doesn’t want to offend them, workaholic, can’t say no to anyone, but tends to explode on those she loves when enough stress builds up, she’ll find someone to treat badly, my step dad mainly because they could never communicate well enough...anyways maybe I’m biased and my needs to change the people in my life has always been manipulative narc behaviors I feel like the dynamic between a narc and a codependent empath is like they subconsciously sign a contract agreeing to meet all the needs of the narc, only consciously this is not always understood by the empath and so there’s a lot of confusion and frustration as you said. And the narc doesn’t really see how things could be any other way without feeling a lack of needs being met

@Evoke this book is really fascinating, I actually just finished listening to it and it touches on the relationship between spirituality and psychopathy mostly in the last hour of the book. There are indeed some correlations and amazing findings relating to psychopaths and spirituality. Also it is quite entertaining and shines light on many different aspects of the brain, behaviors, empathy and what separates the psychopath from normal people (edit: @Natasha you may enjoy this book)

@Keyhole thank you for clarifying

@Serotoninluvdoes this make sense to you or had I misinterpreted what you’re saying?

I don’t really agree here. The empath bases their own needs/feelings/desires on those of others, always putting themselves second, if at all. A secure person will take both their own needs and the needs of others. Your example about the concert, what is most likely to happen between a narc and an empath is the empath would feel it would be immoral to speak up about their own needs so they would reluctantly suffer in silence while the narc would not even consider their needs. Others might think a narc is being a jackass not giving a shit about the empath’s needs but in reality they are operating on the same page for their dynamic

When I tried to go back to this sort of determination centered lifestyle it actually felt wrong, as I didn’t realize I had begun rejecting the ego

@Martin123 maybe you’ve answered this already but how do you describe the masculine path?

Or what I’ll admit for a little while I went a bit overboard, sort of like Tolle videos. I still think it beat a porn obsession

There’s an interview between Matt Kahn and teal Swan sort of comparing their approaches, top-down and bottom up. it is an excellent comparison of the teaching approaches

@yellowschnee instead of asking for their intentions/agenda, perhaps you’d rather simply state your intentions or even express your boundaries when you feel uncomfortable

Hehe technically that isn’t your desire either but yes I understand ? Our desires, those given to us by society, have our opportunity for growth in them, or else we wouldn’t be having them

@Natasha @Aeris you guys have brought up a good point I’d like to note: Ego desires aren’t our desires, they are those of society and the culture. They are never going to bring happiness within themselves because they are a byproduct of Being, mistaken for the actual (who we really are)

? but you don’t really want it...you just think you do

If it’s only part of consciousness work why does it deserve its own subforum?

You may be on to something. To create a subforum for subconscious dreams will undoubtably increase consciousness do you hold a dream journal?

What’s your attachment style? This thread may help see charts

Vid on point

This is a really important point ☝️

This forum is a mirror that I can ‘sometimes’ willing face, it does not produce a complete transformation but it does show me what is possible. It is also a good place to heal and mend the broken aspects of self, often simply through assisting others

Well you kinda gotta have the ambition

Yup, Donald knows how to fuel himself, he feeds on all those willing to give him their attention, total energy vamp, or both an “intimidator” and an “interrogator” as his control drama used to manipulate for energy, according to the book Celestine prophecy

@Uncover mediation (dynamic stretch/little exercise) and green smoothie in the morning, routinely step away from computer to walk around and get your body moving/blood flowing. Try to interact more with others even if it’s just saying hi and smiling. Push your comfort zones slowly, using positive incentives immediately after doing something you may never normally do. Even commit to a new hobby, and in the meantime figure out what you really want to do, just ask yourself at random times to see what desires might arise. Are you stomach breathing to reduce stress? How’s your sitting posture? You can figure out how to solve everything with more body awareness, it tends to know better than your mind and can give you hints as to what you’re unconsciously doing to yourself

+1 @Truthority There’s a balance, the question is do you want to be more open and loving? Are you afraid to trust others? This video shows how powerful connection can be for working through limiting beliefs and achieving the unimaginable with support