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Enough imagination for today

Of course it can't be compared to anything. But is it eternal bliss or eternal torture or just meh? Or all of it? Or none?

You are choosing consciously to limit yourself, but you’re not aware of that right now.

Congratulations on the breakthrough.

Yeah maybe I was overly harsh there. But I got some vibes of clinging to something in the first post.

You are God. Leo is Leo. Leo is God. I am God. You are me. My point is.. being God is nothing special. At some point you've got to leave all teachers behind. It seems to me as if you're still putting Leo on a pedestal in an unhealthy way. Do I have a point?

You're imagining drugs. Don't be a slave to your own imagination.

Osho was one of the most awakened guys to ever live. Many pearls of wisdom. But don't forget that no one can be as awake as you can

My cat I’ve known for only 2 weeks but loved dearly died tragically last week. The pain and sadness I felt especially during a shroom trip a few days ago was the most real thing I experienced in a long time. It was so heartbreaking and beautiful at the same time. I would have never wanted it if „I“ had the choice of course, but I see the greater picture. It’s like going double-tracked through life.

Every kind of spirituality that aims at leaving this world in one or the other way is absolute BS. We're here to be human. If that wasn't the case we wouldn't be here. God doesn't care about enlightenment or going to infinity. God cares about being HUMAN! It's the greatest creation ever and you want to throw it away just because you suffer? Then you didn't get it. This is about LOVE. It hurts, but it is so unbelievably breathtakingly beautiful. It's bittersweet. No spiritual teacher teaches you to be Human enough. That's the highest kind of teaching. Everything else is child's play. Don't try to be enlightened, try to be Human. Enlightenment is easy, but being Human is very hard. Since you have no idea...

Care to expound?

Yes. But they are way beyond anything you can conceive. There's no going back to the human form, except if you create the universe anew.

I knew he was an AI ?

@Davino Besides that it absolutely makes a difference what you do or don't do. Or would you say that it makes no difference if you kill somebody or not? Sure, the Absolute remains perfectly undisturbed, but your experience will be a world of difference.

Thanks for explaining how exactly you mean it. I agree completely! I know all that already and I am conscious of it! But when you really got it you realize that it makes absolutely no difference what you do or don't do. And then you begin to PLAY. And the great plot twist is that through that Play the absolute begins to awaken to itself on a completely new level you didn't think was possible before. That's the paradox here. It's not at all about changing the world – it's about complete and radical TRANSFORMATION. This is not the same thing! It's not about some better state in the future, it's about releasing the massive amounts of Potential that is bound in the physical. It's like the beginning of a supernova of Consciousness. As soon as you feel that you know that that's as real as it gets. It's not about winning or losing something – both are impossible, because what is is already Absolute. It's about experiencing and actualizing God in a very direct way, in ways that one didn't even deem possible before. The heights that are possible to achieve are unimaginable. And there's nothing else to do!

We are able to create incredible amounts of suffering on this planet, as we see right now. But we're also capable of doing the opposite.

Oh yeah, that's exactly the right question! This is what we should really contemplate.

But we are Human. That's not random, God wills this consciously into existence. You could disappear into eternal bliss this instant, but that's not what God decides to do. God decides to be Human.

That's one interpretation of many possibilities, but I agree that it's not about continuing to do what we do. We have the potential to be something completely different, something far greater. Still Human, but unrecognizable in contrast to our current demeanor. And to get there is what's most important on this planet. Not trying to escape through some enlightenment. The blossoming of humanity will be the real enlightenment, everything else pales on comparison.

That's just not true, both of it.

I like it. Being Human is as significant as being Infinity. But Infinity is what we're already anyway. It's very easy to be Infinity. But it's a cosmic challenge to become Human.

I'm not sure what exactly we're disagreeing on then. I already said this is it. But... Infinity is a Process. And we have the choice to try to resist it or open ourselves to it and thus accelerating and advancing it. Neither choice is wrong, but one brings us closer to the experience of Love & Beauty. If you had the choice to life in the middle ages or now, what would you choose? It does matter what we do here.

Spirituality is about your connection to Love, Truth & Consciousness. That's very important.

It has everything to do with you, because you create it at this very moment. We're creatures becoming Creators.

It's a conundrum. Humanity is like a big big questionmark. What does it mean being Human? We haven't found the answer yet. We create the answer, and that's why we're here. Everything outside is not what's on the agenda. This the greatest question to answer on this planet: What is Human?