Etherial Cat

Because solide power structures do not only need to be built, they also need to be maintained. A nation state is unified through a process that takes centuries of cohesion and social unification. A good nation state is created out of a defensible territory, a culturally rather homogenous population and capable leadership/government. Empires tend to spread far out of an initial nation state, swallow up different cultural nations/tribes/cultural ego and fail at both keeping the territory and create a new sense of cohesion between the different populations because the power structure do not last long enough to make the two former element possible. As a consequence, at the first occasion the added territories are lost and the collective egos reclaim their former identity and sovereignty. Also, nowadays, de facto empire that holds power are smart and do not call themselves empires, but third party countries or partners. They like better to frame themselves like that, because the word empire is badly connoted and they can anyway get all the advantages of being an empire without the disadvantages. For instance, the US is obviously an empire. That's why we still talk a lot of concepts like imperalism and neo-colonialism. If you had a European perspective, you would likely see the EU as a corrupt, defunct and doomed structure which needs to desperately hold for geopolitical and military reasons. They do a fantastic job at greenwashing and trying to pass as a progressive IO, but underneath the image it is unfortunately rather an undemocratic, technocratic mess, dismantling slowly social progress to align with more neoliberalism. Also, some toxic Blue states like Poland and Hungary have major SD level differences with other member states ( ex: Netherlands, Sweden, Finland, Germany). For instance, Poland just banned abortion and is weaponizing migrants. Also, they are rejecting the supremacy and judgments of the European court of justice. So the EU is facing full frontal dissidence by this specific memberstate. Another important point to understand is that European nations states have strong agendas against one another. And due to how the treaties functions, major decisions need to be taken at the unanimity. And in the current circumstances, no one will move towards more power for the EU. So everyone is paralyzed. It's like trying to get Blue states like Califonia and New York to renew their vows with Alabama and Kentucky.

Interesting discussion. Before clicking on this thread I was analyzing my internalized sense of shame and noticed it stem from an environment where I've felt constantly criticized for being different than other's people expectations. It got me to constantly look at myself through an external gaze, try to mold myself into what other people want, and deeply feel like I need to apologize for the way I am. ?‍♀️ And what lead first to reflecting on this subject was reading Raphael's thread on why he took a break from Actualized.org. He has been seeing exactly what I have been starting to notice: this website is full of traumatized people, seeking self-actualization to finally make themselves acceptable. We are all valid as we are. Imperfect, figuring stuff out. We already are totally loveable and just need to finally know this is true, after having spent so much time believing we weren't enough and needed to earn it. Realizing this is easier said than known, but recognizing it is already a major step.

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Yeah, I mean a lot of cases can be thought about to illustrate why these theories might seem somewhat unfair. For instance, what about someone who'd give up on life after a car accident, after witnessing their whole family die before their eyes? Perhaps they could have fought harder for their life, had quite an okay chance to make it, but just decide not to keep trying to live. Is it some form of suicide? "Weakness" of character? Bad combination of physically objective and subjective circumstances? Is it really that bad to decide to leave, in such circumstances? Wouldn't it have killed most humans put externally in the same circumstances? Potentially even spiritual masters? Somehow, it seems to be also the case with young girls killing themselves. I've got the chills thinking of someone like Amanda Todd and accepting throughout whatever theory she's got karma to expurgate somewhere in limbo, after obviously she died from life challenges and circumstances exceeding from far what most teenagers are equipped to deal with. What happened to her was enough of a hell. Assuming cosmic justice needs now for her to rot in hell for taking her life feels wrong AF . Karma really puzzles me too. It's really a though piece!

Nice insight. Thanks for sharing. @ValiantSalvatore Thanks to you too!

There are various interpretation about what happens when one dies, let alone with suicide. I'll just say that it is quite common to more or less decide to go, especially when you are old and the end is near. Sometimes, the frontier between suicide and a natural death isn't so easy to distinguish. An exemple is when you've got a degenerative terminal illness and you decide to stop it there before it turns you into a legume. My country has one of the most liberal practices when it comes to end of life, and it doesn't seem correct to assume all people who decide on when and how to end their lives are necessarily creating dense karma for themselves.

Yep, gotcha. If I get what you're going through correctly, doing that work is really though on a personal level, causes many logistical issues (basically if you change and your surroundings not, it's even more awful) and so forth. And you still need to make sure you're functional enough for survival in that hostile environment of yours... Exaggerating about what we feel and think is quite common when we're having an emotional release through our writings. I certainly wrote stuff I disagreed with retrospectively when I had my journal, but the energy seemed to kinda want out in a certain fashion at that point. It gets out how it's charged, and has little to do with factuality. So it materializes into distorted thinking, it seems. And if it's like very old stuff- like deep subconscious believes- I've heard they are likely stuck at the same maturity level we had when we caught them. Sometimes they even get intertwined with more recent emotions and it becomes quite a funny and cringey mess to read, over time. What I have found out, is that it is okay to be a bit petit and express how we've perceived things, instead of camouflaging it. That petitness is unfortunately how our ego has created a false narrative, and we know deep within it isn't true. It's just a subjective chimera, and going through that process allows us to recognize that it is a lie. Right, I've seen you trying to learn how to program. Sad to hear that even going through medical school doesn't give you any solide prospects. Is it not possible for you to emigrate let say to a place like Canada, once you are done? Yeah, I get you on the intergenerational trauma. We're all carrying humanity's trauma since the dawn of time (some stuff has been circulating since the moment humanity started getting ego and passed until now for sure) but some cultural karmas are heavier than others. And it's not helped by the current collective hallucination and actions taken either nor by how bigger collective ego brutalize the area you're living in. Your anger and unhappiness seems very much understandable. Every human wish they could have their needs met. Yours have been particularly let down and it sucks. Thanks. Yes. An inaccurate invalidation is definitively counterproductive when you're being vulnerable. I think it happens quite often that people are more lenient than we think. Yesterday, I voiced out everything I thought was shameful about me and realized it wasn't at all this bad. Plenty of people wouldn't have blinked, yet I had the feeling to be hiding an old corpse in my closet. I am building an online coaching practice and I'd be open with offering you a bunch of pro bono sessions. I can't do much to help you out of this mess, but if you are interested I can try to create space for you and see what we could do to help you work on some of the challenges you're facing.

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I hear you, but you've managed to make it happen with your business even to the point of abundance And actually, what makes you so popular is that you're selling to people authenticity and higher consciousness material. I'm adamant that you could reiterate the same thing with your sex life. Obviously, not by clubbing in Vegas, but by meeting women in circle mirroring your interests. There should be plenty of them around where you live, or nearby in California. At the end of the day, how attractive is really a woman for whom you've got to stoop to a lower level? Isn't this not compromising the piece you cherish most about yourself: truth and consciousness? And isn't it likely to cause a split in yourself, if you pursue ? Self-love would be probably commanding you not to do so. Self-love would tell you to get yourself a woman who authentically resonates with you AND that you find attractive. All the rest is actually coming out of scarcity.

Aren't we all? Well, this is where I don't get your way of thinking . You are literally stating one thing and it's opposite. If the women on the forum do not represent the general population of girls (assuming we are more "developed" or wired towards spiritual matters), why do you keep addressing us with the same generalization, assumptions, or with the same characteristics? You keep on framing women through a particular monolithic prism which isn't accurate and give us a hard time stating how it actually is for us. Both agenda can converge. It doesn't need to be a thug of war. There are easier ways. Just not through that framework.

I see what you see there. Being beta is associated with danger and a low quality life, as it means being at the bottom of the hierarchy. For this reason most men overcapitalize on masculinity and reject some parts of themselves because they are afraid it will make them less competitive, which begets an infernal vicious circle. I think men also wants acceptance and safety from one another as much as they want it from females. A lot of the masculinity need to overcompensate for their lack is found in their relationship with the masculine itself.

Why make this suddenly about me? I don't think I have been talking about my experience in a significantly different way than the other girls on this forum. If you are stating assumptions about female sexuality and then directly address mine, I think it's only fair that I give you my own experience as a woman. I am also not that special. If anything, I have just spent more time introspecting and learning about self-help than the average woman, which makes me also more attuned to what is truly attractive or not to female. I get the place you are coming from, and I think this aspect is great. I'm just concerned about a few particular points, as such as what I see as an excessive focus on survival, and a few misconceptions about female attraction, which ends up being actually disempowering to both genders. I see pros and cons in it, and I don't believe it is per se mutually exclusive with relationships. ... I've been attempting to give a reply to this, but I'm just gonna give up and not drag it further .

You should have registered yourself on the forum as Chad.

? That's it, @Nahm must be starting Game too!

Yo. Are we invisible to you?

It's not so much about your girlfriend than the wound you've got in your relationship with other men and the masculine hierarchy, then. You compare yourself to other men in relation to her. She's the proxy to that feeling and you project the resentment on that poor girl. Maybe try to do some shadow work in that area. How much of an emotional reaction do you have when hearing the word beta? What is behind it? These sounds like great questions for some private introspection.

The advice and the position he holds are not very distinctive. My suggestion to Leo was to tone down on necessarily framing things between men and woman as a survival game where love and consciousness is impossible because women are too unconscious. He's just attracting his own self-fulfilling prophecy. And by focusing on this mindset, he doesn't give women the opportunity for more consciousness and better quality affection, which is a pity. He doesn't believe its possible and we've got the skills for it. Which is a false belief.

There is for sure a sweetspot between discussing, cristalizing insights and losing your time debating. But I think you are right and I should stop all together as what I want to say has already been said. I'd just wish I had not several tags, because I feel bad not replying once someone replies me.

I'm talking about what comes after.

Survival can be pursued consciously or unconsciously depending on the person doing the pursuing and their levels of consciousness. <- That's exactly my point What's the rest about, then? And lol at your 4 @Gesundheit I highlighted it in bold in a previous post.

You're not portraying a developed individual showing high consciousness traits. For others elements on how I conceived things, you can maybe read my earlier entrances on this thread. There is nothing wrong with exploring sexuality. The things discussed here are a bit more contextualized than this simplification.

Hum yes, they do. They are link to my emotional system, and I don't get wet for low consciousness guys as they only trigger in me indifference or annoyance. I am as attracted to low conscious guys holistically as I am let's say intellectually drawn by Donald Trump. Most customers in the self-help business in general are attracted to low consciousness behavior, yet you're focusing on attracting a specific audience who can stomach your actual development. But you're using a smart combo of consciousness and survival, which works well for you. You could do the same with girls. Imagine if you had spent your whole career on actualized.org making clickbait self-help video on stage Orange subject, because "this is were most people are at". What's the difference?

@Leo Gura It sounds awfully like you're saying that women don't have the ability to be attracted to consciousness and will only fall for survival capital? If I can recognize the value of consciousness vs survival elsewhere, I can definitely do it as well with men.

It obviously can be both. One chose what it wants. The question is why would I go for the low consciousness thing when I can get the high consciousness option? Why aren't you interested in eating 1$ meals at Mcdonalds everyday? Chasing money out of people using the same set of techniques you use on girls? Or selling crack to children? The aim is conscious survival. You put this as a priorities this for all areas in your life except for relationship and the dating advices you give. What infuriates all the women in here is that in an area where love can be so well incarnated, you heavily promote selfishness and deny female REAL affection. What you come off like is : Love and consciousness for everyone BUT women. And you teach guys that survival is what matters most in the domain and do the same as you.

@yolosmoothie These are Chad words.