SoonHei

YOU never DO anything. Silent and Still YOU remain. You simply are aware and will continue to become aware forever. You are eternally aware. Just that.

let's inquire right now in 2 steps. Q1. WHO knows this story of Pouya? -then you give me your answer 2. the ONE who sees your answer (to Q1) is who YOU are. YOU can never be contained in the answer - provided that the answer is phenomenal (object - thought/words) YOU can only be recognized by YOURSELF NOTE! {YOU, ONE, WHO} as used above are not referring to @Pouya They are referring to YOU - your true silent & still eternal self.

@winterknight hmmmm Yeah. I guess i am only creating that expectation because i thought i had the glimpse but it didn't quite fit what i have hears about the glimpses .. in that, i was still there as an ego questioning that huge recontextualization of meaninglessness... Thanks for clear up

@winterknight would an enlightenment experience be equal to the falling away of ALL meaning? For example, one moment i am sitting in my room and the next moment, ALL meaning about everything in my room (objects, concepts, about myself as a human) falls away. Enlightenment is supposed to be the falling away of all concepts. The end of all meaning and concepts... So this did happen to me But that's the only problem... It happened to "me" All fell apart except for me... Maybe, as i did not know about spirituality and non-duality etc at that time. I didn't know any better than to observe or have any thoughts inquiring into WTF just happened... As Leo says, IT CAN SHOCK/TERRIFY YOU. The glimpse of the absolute. As you said in your post above, questioning or assuming what "enlightenment will feel /look like" can be a trap. I had no such expectations for when it happened to "me" . Add to this the phrase, that Nothing changes visually but it's fully recontextualized. And for me, it was the falling away of all meaning. So as i had many "I thoughts" during that state... Can that still be a glimpse which i had? I thoughts were: oh my god, what just happened? What is this? What am i? I am this animal who lives in this "house" and wears "clothes" and has a "job" All meaning was melted away from all these thoughts and concepts... Even like "wtf... I drink "water" when i am "thirsty" ... Wtf is "sex" etc.. And then before i felt like i would be trapped forever and cannot unsee any of this.. i started praying to God and reciting my religious verses to find and ask for peace, and praying before forcing myself to.sleep that when i wake up, all is normal.. and when i woke up the next day, all was again "normal" with a zing from the previous night of course As it's all ultimately meaningless, the meaning i assigned to that state was hellish instead of heaven? This very egoic SoonHei right now often hopes that if that was an enlightenment experience which i had, then when it happens again, I want to find the heaven side of the absolute no meaning. Would I. Knowing all this now, be able to catch it this way? And thinking back, it happened in an instant. I didn't bring it about. Heck i didn't know about spirituality as i do now (which i feel makes the seeking tougher actually - more concepts to let go of)

Had a nice experience yesterday on weed. Sat down and did meditation and came to the present after I smoked one. After a while and bit of a thought process, had a powerful seeing. It felt that in the blank nothingness, all phenomena/experience appears. What I kind of saw was like this analogy. Right now we are all identified as a windchime. We chime all the time in the wind and make our sounds (words). But what we are truly cannot be communicated in any way via this body/mind. The windchime cannot chime and tell other windchimes that what we actually are is the air. Not the movement (wind) but the stillness of air all around us (which also makes Us). I drew this picture I am attaching with this post. The top frame shows an impossibility (meta-reality) just to illustrate that Reality is one. Don't be fooled by the cube depicted... Reality is boundless in all directions/dimensions. But this is an illustration of course. The bottom frame is from the POV of within that "cube" of Reality from the top frame. It shows the futility of the effort of a tiny WindChime which attempts to talk about the whole of nothingness as what we are. We get focused and lost in the sound of the windchime and miss what is being pointed to (because well, it cannot be pointed to)

@Parki it all depends Nothing really has any point At the same time, someone can have a deep experience triggered by this video/mantra Vs Someone else might 0 effect Apart from that. Main reason for mantras is really supposed to be a head-shake... The word itself is often meaningless... It's a sound afterall... If reciting a mantra in your head after a while one might become aware that he/she is simply aware of the chanting which is happening on it's own... But really, it all depends. Also depends on how much you believe in it.

but that already IS the case though everyone you know in your waking state is YOUR consciousness. including each of us here you are / are in my consciousness I am / am in your consciousness that's because there is no mine or your consciousness. there's simply just consciousness, within infinite floating aware nodes/points. (concept to illustrate) every inch, every dot, every node, the entire fabric of this construct is self aware at each point. and at each of those points, it branches out to infinitely many possibilities there is zero difference between your dream and current waking state construct - literally. just think of yourself (your true self) always as a dreamer, never in the dream world, but the entire container of the construct of the dream - and taking that a step ahead, the construct is the container is the dreamer is you. @Sockrattes

love it <3 and yes. there is no end to it. the sharpening of the mind continues without bound - there is no limit using the words only, many enlightened beings say the depth and peace just continues to deepen without end. their understanding, peace, depth just keeps growing without bound. mooji talks about this in one of his videos. also his older videos vs now, he's much more calmer (just an observation) being calmer isn't always the case of course. but yes, the deepening continues without bound

Pretty Sweet

@Yousef LOL yes. but what is it actually? sure you can give it any name but it's comprised of two different forms we name already like whole of reality is all infinte forms as ONE - no separation just a play of what is to be the background vs foreground.

@Yousef yup. i agree. nothing is literally changed. just the perception of it. kinda of like my DP. the 2 faces and the white vase... "both" are there in the ONE pic. but you can switch between them

@Shin beautiful <3

@cetus56 do explain. What is the answer?? ?? Is it supposed to be an answer not in words but in experience?

It is Identification. Realize that the experience / life which you think you are living, ever since your oldest memory allows... All of that is simply APPEARING to YOU and it IS NOT YOU. The experience and your life in its entirety! Not just a particular sound, taste, sight, memory. All of it is just appearing to YOU. Remove the Identification and there only remains appearance/experience. It is an appearance to YOU. YOU are the only YOU out there. and that YOU isn't the "I" which maybe commonly refered to... Because even that is an appearance to YOU. YOU are the silent, still, eternal, ever-present, infinite blank.

@ground please shake my soul

@ground sure thing! Also note that I (SoonHei) am inclusive in that error.

@GabeN bless up @Anton Rogachevski thank you. About your question, if I am to answer from my direct experience, then the appearance and I are not separate, but are One. And as they are One, it's more appropriate to say there's no two things (appearance and I) it's all one thing. Another thing, the appearance seeimgly come and go, but I remain. Yet, still, when they ARE, so AM I and the oneness is still maintained. Also, @Anton Rogachevski I saw your post about Reality/Existence explained. Very insightful about how seeimgly separateness comes into ONE.

this sounds good. thanks

i recall having read this and also understood during one of my sessions that any statement / principle which is self-cancelling is complete / TRUE for example about this thread with the purpose of life: there is no purpose / meaning / lesson in life but then what about that statement itself? so it is self-cancelling. what is the main lesson in life? there are no lessons... but "there are no lessons" is also a lesson. paradox. self-cancelling. life is meaningless = infinitely meaningful = assign whatever meaning to it and it will make sense should you believe it.

@ivankiss haven't seen that movie but i know exactly what you're talking about I had a deep weird high on some synthetic weed and that's the conclusion i drew too. Again, its all part of the illusion with the infinite stories we can create. But yes, other than that, the deeper thing to recognize is that you are traveling to a different Reality each passing "moment" You are "born" each moment technically

Also this means that if one is peaceful with the circumstances of their death and accepts the death (dieing peacefully in sleep at old age) for example then she/he, if persons of religion, likely will go to their religion's version of heaven and hell... So yeah, the heaven with 72 virgins is also an afterlife gift for some egos out there who went and lived a good life with that faith Oh, and eternal lives of course! They maybe identified with whatever version of body/mind exists in heaven for them and live it as the ego. Hopefully in heaven they get Non-duality special talks from asended masters Of course the higher self is there all along knowing the whole thing

@tentacion The answer is yes, it is possible. From what's evident through Near "Death" Experiences... What happens next is usually what the ego's belief is. A Christian having a near death experience goes to a heaven/hell as described per his faith. Same as a Muslim, same as a Hindu, a Jew and so on... The point to note is that what they call ego death is not actually death, but it IS a death in this world. Their ego self usually continues on into the heaven and hell and they have a sense of self still. Many report having gone there, knowing they died (based on whatever way they "almost died" on earth [almost because of course they didn't die as we know they came back and are telling the NDE] ) So to them, they have actually died. Many say they thought about family or something and unfinished business etc and were given the option to return to Earth etc. Also, many people who arent ready to die, like in a car crash leading to a near death experience, they end up describing the journey to heven and then back. True ego death would be where the identity truly dies, a much more deeper level death which kills the sense of self altogether and when that happens, you are still seen to exist as the ONE ABSOLUTE

@Jack Walter Leon @Jack Walter Leon @Nahm @Nahm Jack, as SOUL said. The key is to realize the deeper meaning of illusion. Now about the example you gave, where a person is enlightened and his mother is murdered. For the enlightened person, there is no mother or a murder or a murderer... So there's that. As for what the body/mind/emotions of that person, it will play out whatever is needed in the moment. It's like living life from 2 different perspectives simultaneously. Also, take an example of what some religions say when it comes to conveying the message that everyone is you... Love thy neighbor - Christianity Treat all Muslims / others as your brother / sisters. Now sure. Common sense will note that you will be more loving and understanding of your family/siblings/someone you love... But we all know there is still anger, fights and issues So yes. Anger can arise, fights can happens.. even though the others are YOU or brother/sister/beloved.

@Joseph Maynor Because the theory is only a guide to becoming Enlightened. Living the theory is not what being Enlightened is. Thank you. Just need this step clicked for me. @Anton Rogachevski yeah, that's why it's important to keep the drive on your life purpose or a goal in life (with the understanding and the focus also on the awakening and resting on the I AM-ness.

in writing a few posts in some threads this morning, i came across this realization. all this mental masturbation (as it's often referred to), all the concepts, ideas, stories, all understandings and insights - ALL OF IT. are within the dream. The "goal" for enlightenment (the idea of) is to escape/end the dream and WAKE UP but all we do is to further the dream and remain in it, rather than escape it. Now, in this context, even this understanding and this thread is the furthering of that. at the same time, it also must go on and be this way... or should it be? unless you let it? the large misunderstanding is that most of us have the idea of awakening to be another "event" or content or experience within the dream... when it is an "event" outside of it. outside of the story, the world, the illusion. the idea of seeking enlightenment into the future implies seeking it in the dream.. because future is a concept within the dream/illusion. now what to do about this...? Turn the focus on the I AM / AM-ness as much as possible thru the waking state - in the understanding that staying and keeping as that = enlightened state, which is what you're after, isn't it?