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  3. Posted

    On 29/10/2019 at 4:21 PM, Shroomdoctor said:

    @Javfly33 Could you elaborate on how exactly fasting benefits you?

    Basically fasting numbs most of the emotional distress you might be going through which in most cases is the worst thing you could have to be productive or get stuff done.

    I usually do from Monday to Friday one meal a day. (+ Some exercising in the morning, which seems to accelerate fasting mental benefits through the day once the hours pass).

    And Saturday and Sunday I let myself go a little bit and try to eat more in case I ate below my normal calorie intake during the workweek.

    In this kind of fast you don't have to be concerned about electrolites and that shit as long as you have a good diet. But if sometimes you feel a little down in energy , be sure to drink water with a little salt (don't go over 3gr of salt).

    24hour fasts are not going to be spiritual nor particularly cleansing but sure as hell will make you more productive and get stuff done. Well, at least in my case it does. Try it for yourself and see how it goes for ya.

  4. Posted · Edited by Javfly33

    On 25/10/2019 at 5:49 PM, Rigel said:

    Remember that the more you do something the easier it gets. If you have social anxiety then go to a bunch of social events. Talk to strangers and face your fear head on. There's is a limit to what introspection can do. You have to consciously put yourself out of your confort zone. Then you will have no choice but to grow. 

    I did that in the past (some pick-up here and there) but I had to be honest with you, it didn't solve this. It gave me confidence, but didn't ground me really in self-love or real confidence. (For other people it might, I'm just talking my particular experience).

    Also I've been socializing all my life, so I've been in that "out the comfort zone" for years. In this sense it has to be noted that there are degrees of social anxiety. For some people they have to take some steps as you said. But then go other people when you already had made those steps a long time ago and still you are not grounded (because if you would, socializing in any situation wouldn't be any out of the comfort zone") then you have to consider going deeper.

  6. Posted

    2 hours ago, Serotoninluv said:

    It sounds like there is contrast appearing between the story of self and storyless no-self of being. It can feel like two different realities. . . I can totally relate to entering space of just being, with no "me" controlling the narrative. It sooo beautiful. And yes, there can be a deep sense of sadness when that "me" voice returns in the head. . . Yet it is a gift that this awareness is revealed. Most people live their entire life without ever becoming aware of this. 

    By the way, you say you relate with this. In what stage you would say I am? Like by your words "it can feel different realities" does that mean that there's a point in where you experience the "collapse" of this two? Wtf are you serious lol? 

    And I imagine to arrive there, you have to be in the state I was, not minutes of hours but days or months? 

  7. Posted · Edited by Javfly33

    16 minutes ago, Serotoninluv said:

    It sounds like there is contrast appearing between the story of self and storyless no-self of being. It can feel like two different realities. . . I can totally relate to entering space of just being, with no "me" controlling the narrative. It sooo beautiful. And yes, there can be a deep sense of sadness when that "me" voice returns in the head. . . Yet it is a gift that this awareness is revealed. Most people live their entire life without ever becoming aware of this. 

    I already had this experience 1 year ago but with less duration. It also caused a lot of sadness. You think the I needs to be purified in order to the selfless eternity finally let's go and stays in it's true place for ever?

    Sometimes I m not sure if it's wise to 'pursue' this path without before having totally sorted out my life (the life of I and material stuff).

    On the other hand it seems the story of "when I sort things out" is another story. Because no matter how much I accomplish in life when the IT have the opportunity to let go it's scary and it doesn't do the decision because there's no ground no whatsoever if "I" stops talking. (I is me, the one who is writing this, but maybe not my deepest ground hmf)

    It seems that decision, that courage, will be of the same test of what it was today. (Right now I am accepting IT is back to my chains)

  8. Posted

    I am totally sober right now but it just feels somebody else is typing this words not me. 

    Who am I?

    I just went for a walk. Took 32.5ug of acid, my usual dose for introspective, social-anxiety self inquiry since I'm trying to solve that.

    But I was tired of my "stuff" I just put leo last video.

    And while self inquiring about stuff, it just "clicked me" when I noticed there was something "in the back" while I am talking, having thoughts ...etc.

    IT started giving the authority to this "back position" instead of the "front position" (here the one who is talking I am at the front)

    Again, it feels now I "going back" to normal self. I can go back to normal self but there is THIS SADNESS INSIDE THAT I am going back to a life of chains.

     

    But if God stays where it's at it is not grounded, it doesn't know where to attach itself if I stop existing.

     

    And again, who the fuck is writing this words.

     

    The thing is , I know I have to go back the Monday to my normal life, Tring to get a job etc.

    But now I just want to let go. Well not me. IT wants to let go and it feels the right thing to. 

    But it just feels it's going to pass 20 years of my life to just come back to this moment I am having right now.

  9. Posted

    For emotional issues/labor I can't recommend you anything (I'm going through the same thing although probably in less intensity, and yeah it's just plain painful and overwhelming and the only thing you have to have is patience because as long as you are aware of this kind of stuff ego will start to change and self-actualize, it just takes a lot of time).

     

    But for this physical lazyness and dreadlessness I would suggest you give a try to intermittent fasting. Not bullshit 16:8 intermittent fasting but at least 24hrs fasts.

    Be sure to be strategic in this and actually plan your meals ahead so you don't eat less just because you have a fasting schedule.

    Fasting shouldn't be abused because I find is an ego, maniac booster, so I wouldn't advise it to be done regularly in a conscious life, but it is such a helpful aid in this deep emotional crisis where it seems your ego has been overlooaded with self-honesty and "baggage-discovery" and you are in emotional trap state where it seems overwhelming.

    Well, in that state fasting can be tremendous help. I am using to get through my responsabilities and work while discovering a lot of my traumas and healing myself. That way I can still get stuff work in the week and not fall into depression or anxiety, and in the weekends work again in myself in a conscious way

     Some might that is a little self-delusional way to self actualize because you are avoiding "going full time" but hey I have to eat before I need to self-actualize. And honestly if the 20% of my week I'm conscious of my self is way better than the last 10 years of my life that I haven't been 1% conscious any day.

  10. Posted

    On 20/10/2019 at 7:23 PM, Eph75 said:

    I can only speak from my perspective and for me I have lost nothing except the negative stuff, the constantly negative spiral chattering chimp, the self-resentment, the feeling of being less than others by putting myself down at the same time as idolizing everyone else to exacerbate how worthless I felt. I don't miss that ;) I don't even know that guy anymore, it feels so distant and strange, as if that wasn't me.

    Underneath all that, you are still you in terms of your values etc. Getting rid of all that distraction you will allow yourself to shine by being the man that you were supposed to be, that you are pushing down and away. It's all positive and from there you can grow further without restriction.

    In my case I worked on gaining understanding where it all began, which was back in my childhood, in fact as far as I can remember. I've not had any trauma what-so-ever in my childhood, it just happened but I understand why I turned out the way I did and I've seen what contributed to this in my mother and in my grandmother, they both were very driven in what they did, it kind of just spills over. We've talked about this and that has helped a lot. It's important to never find causes that you can blame but instead if/when you'd go down this route it's only for the purpose of gaining understanding without blame. Blame is a dark pit in itself.

    I've never felt that change was scary, I've wanted to change. That's mostly because I found myself in a place that didn't work for me so I wanted to move away. At the time when this all happened I had already gotten fairly far in my personal development, it was the remaining surpressed thing that my ego was hiding from me, along with some pride that stopped me from talking neccessary steps. It was holding me back like a bungee cord at full tension so when it released I propelled forward.

    I'm not sure I want to give any recommendation as it is your life and your choices to make :) For me it was reasoning, understanding emotions, challenging my anxieties and not giving up was a big part of it. Also a very big part of it was that I exposed myself to everyone I knew, letting them know how I felt about myself, disarming it all in a way. By being vulnerable you take away the negative energy from yourself and fuel up with love, not only from yourself but also through understanding of others. Also I didn't feel that I had to uphold my facade anymore.

    But that's just me. I hope you get some clarity. Stay strong.

    Oh, one final thing. At the time I felt like I had failed somehow, failed as a human being, because I went to a psychiatrist to talk. It took someone else to tell me that it really was a strength to get to the point I was and to do something about it. A big strength. It can be a small thing like that, that changes how we view ourselves, from one moment "weak" to the next moment feeling "strong".

    Thanks very much for your words. It make sense, I can relate, I think by reading you I'm going in the right direction, I'm starting to do real progress now. 

  11. Posted · Edited by Javfly33

    6 hours ago, Eph75 said:

    Do you see a danger in attributing these changes that you have gone through, even if temporarily, too much to the psychedelics? You've been a backseat rider and your ego has been in the drivers seat, now the psychedelics have shown you the way and at some point you have to force yourself into the driver's seat. It sounds like you are still too comfortably seated in the backseat while being able to enjoy the experience of being the driver. A feeling that fades away with the afterglow of the psychedelics wearing away.

    I've done a very similar journey as you have ahead of you. In hindsight the by no doubt most difficult part in this was to realize that my major issue was my self-esteem and as a side-effect a very low self-worth. At the point where this was brought to my attention I had already been working on self-actualization for quite time time, but this fact had been well hidden from me yet affected everything. 

    Nurture the insight you have had by staying with this and seeing it though by making sure that you maintain this newfound selfrespect. It will be hard work, self-actualization is not easy or comes for free without effort or degrees of distress. It will take a lot of time to integrate the insight into your daily life. But it can happen fast if you allow it to. I managed to completely overcome my condition over course of 6 months and left were just some ripple effects that reduced in amplitude over the following 6 months. Question is, if you let the psychedelics do the job and you feel like you're OK, what happens when in the future when you find yourself in a distressful situation? It is easy to regress without proper integration. Chances are there are other things you need to address on the way, such as poor relationships to shame and anger, which serve purpose to uphold inward and outward boundaries which protect your self-worth.

    6 hours ago, Eph75 said:

    Do you see a danger in attributing these changes that you have gone through, even if temporarily, too much to the psychedelics? You've been a backseat rider and your ego has been in the drivers seat, now the psychedelics have shown you the way and at some point you have to force yourself into the driver's seat. It sounds like you are still too comfortably seated in the backseat while being able to enjoy the experience of being the driver. A feeling that fades away with the afterglow of the psychedelics wearing away.

    I've done a very similar journey as you have ahead of you. In hindsight the by no doubt most difficult part in this was to realize that my major issue was my self-esteem and as a side-effect a very low self-worth. At the point where this was brought to my attention I had already been working on self-actualization for quite time time, but this fact had been well hidden from me yet affected everything. 

    Nurture the insight you have had by staying with this and seeing it though by making sure that you maintain this newfound selfrespect. It will be hard work, self-actualization is not easy or comes for free without effort or degrees of distress. It will take a lot of time to integrate the insight into your daily life. But it can happen fast if you allow it to. I managed to completely overcome my condition over course of 6 months and left were just some ripple effects that reduced in amplitude over the following 6 months. Question is, if you let the psychedelics do the job and you feel like you're OK, what happens when in the future when you find yourself in a distressful situation? It is easy to regress without proper integration. Chances are there are other things you need to address on the way, such as poor relationships to shame and anger, which serve purpose to uphold inward and outward boundaries which protect your self-worth.

    Thanks for your message. What would you recommend for me as a next step? Nowadays everything seems to have changed a lot, even though I am not yet even 10% confident and love myself as I like to be.

    My biggest barrier is that I feel I will lose something if I go all the way. Can I please ask you how do you feel now after you have changed? Do you feel a very different person? 

     

    It's funny because we all want to change until the change is very real so real that is scary.

  12. Posted

    42 minutes ago, d i e g o said:

    To me it sounds quite usefull what you variefied there for yourself. Maybe what is lacking is the ability to fully integrate this insight - besides tripping and emotional afterglowing. do you use methods like journalling, meditation or any other mental practice on a regular basis?

    I used to do Yoga and some meditation but quit like 2-3 months ago since I discovered I had to "clean my basic self" before trying to reach higher states. 

    I think journalling might be a good idea, going to try that. 

  13. Posted · Edited by Javfly33

    So about 2 months ago a had a tough (but also enlightening) psychedelic trip where I discovered one of my biggest problem in my life. Low self esteem, and I wasn't never conscious of that. I realized all my life I created a whole story (and stories) in my head in order to feel "superior" to others (I guess to protect my ego).

    Notice that this is not a metaphor, I REALLY thought those stories were 100% real, for my whole adolescence I didn't have a clue that I had "low self esteem" or "social anxiety" (this is what they call it, right?).

    Anyway, so I discovered the trick to actually transcend all of this. My lack of confidence, anxiety, etc... Just completely let go of my ego. But how realistic this is? Please help me do this.

    I had a following trip in where I learned that if I became totally vulnerable (instead of defending an image of myself) I HAD 0 ANXIETY around people! 

    This sensation remained at least 1 week. But then I start to feel again more in my old self. My ego Vs the Wolrd. I can't let go and be vulnerable because it feels it's going to hurt me. It feels like it's going to destroy me and life 'its going to win'. It feels like it definetely is going to prove 99% of what I believed was wrong.

    The Pilar's in which I built my identity (from not liking my city of residence, not liking to go out, and particularly critizising this and that) was all to serve my stories. And now I have to recognise ALL OF THAT WAS WRONG. Years of beliefs. I would say almost a decade.

    I have the tool to self actualize. To just let go. After my last trip is very easy for me to know what to do in a social interaction to not feel anxiety: to just let of and feel totally vulnerable, do not defend anything. But holy shit it feels totally frightening after you start doing this and you realize is actually working, that if you keep doing this everything you have believed in regards to this "problems" that you had was so so so wrong and suddenly nearly all people and social interactions you criticized all of your life, all critizising was to protect yourself and to try to feel superior. 10 years of a fake story you now have to let go of.

    So after some weeks after the last trip my ego feels again it has something to lose if he actually lets go and surrender it self: im starting again to "defend myself", it just feels so annihilating this and particularly that I am not getting anything in return (because who wants to feel with 0 anxiety and free around people when in return you have to let go of your belief system of your whole life! That's poison for ego)

    There has been easily since 12-13 years old to my twenties being a FUCKING DEVIL. I don't say this is a bad way, it's just I've done. I've being all my life making differences in my head around people, inventing stories to feel superior, and then believing 100% that I was a victim (because of course if you think you are a confident guy but you accomplish so little in life then the incongruence starts to get so big it start to get noticed at some point!). 

    My plan is to make another psychedelic trip with set and setting of purely instrospection, very low dose so I don't get distracted with much mindfuck, and then going out socialize. But if I don't want to feel any anxiety when I am socializing then I have to accept and feel totally ok feeling vulnerable and letting go of my image. Is this wise to do this? Really, I ask because sometimes i think "what the fuck is going to happen if I keep doing this, will I get annihilated". But at the other hand it's true that I am more relaxed and 0 anxiety with people (but as I said, it doesn't last a lot). 

    Advice please, will it traumatize me if I go to hard and realise that I was 100%bullshit? More I do this work more it seems I don't have nowhere to grasp myself. I look everywhere and all its ingrained in the identity of low-self esteem/try to feel superior that I invented. Try to destruct that and you are basically destroying "your" life.

     

     

  15. Posted · Edited by Javfly33

    After 1 month of serious consciouss introspection about my social anxiety/anxiety in general...

    I just became consciouss, totally sober, totally clear that I have anxiety because in my mind I let the other person define my value.

    For example If i want to say something I have catched my mind just thinking in how that other person will value what I am saying/doing, and depeding what I think that person will think, I will do that action/speak that idea or not.

    I dont live 100% my time like this but basically this is where it comes my lack of "groundlness", of self-love,  in me.

    How do I fix that, I am 24years old so its like maybr 12 years of programming my mind of acting like this.

    THere´s no doubt for me know that If i dont switch this my life will become a mess even more and I´ll end up in a serious addiction once the emotional pain and lack-of self love gets even bigger.

    I have become more and more aware that I am constantly distracting from emotional sensations that just speak up about how afraid I am and that I dont have power, that my perspective is not powerful, that is what it feels to not love and respect your perspective but i just recently found out, 24 years i´ve been living un-aware of this just some years ago wondering why i felt like a particular way in some situations but i didnt have a clue that it was this serious, please help.

  16. Posted · Edited by Javfly33

    I open this thread to tell you about my recent experience about No Fap, because in my case I think it´s more especial than the usual ones and probably some people could benefit of reading this (Parental Advisory: The story has a twist at the end and for some It might hurt your eg

     

    NoFap, NoPorn, and improvements in my confidence and less anxiety around people:

    So I´ve been on the "no porn" train since more than 2 years ago. I have practised NoFap here and there, but my main and only focus has been abstaining from porn. My reason was mainly because I´ve never had a girlfriend, (I was a virgin, still am) , haven´t had much friends all my life, and the porn content I was using (I´ll abstain from details since this is not a nofap forum), it felt like It was particularly hurting my confidence and for me seemed very mentally unhealthy.

    Soon I discovered that abstaining from porn and a little of abstaining from masturbating did a major improvement in being so much calm and confident around people, BUT, it was clear that it wasn´t a magic pill not a long while ago I discovered that while it did improved anxiety and confidence there the root of my anxiety couldn´t be PORN. At least not totally.

    Introducing Psychedelics and laser-focused introspection into the recipe:

    About 1 month ago, I have started doing very small doses of psychedelics, every 2-3 weeks, with a strong set and setting of introspection. The reason of a small dose it´s simple: I am doing into the experience in the sole intention of discovering/talk about uncomfortable and things I feel shame for, so I know if I do a normal/medium dose the trip might be way to hard for me to digest (i´ve only done two so far but the results have been amazing):  This means that I will dose very very little so I will be totally free of managing what I want to do/have normal conversations/etc but I will have:

    1- An ego reduction of my brain activity so I will be less afraid to be talking about "uncomfortable" stuff about myself.

    2-  Introspection, classic of psychedelics, in my case I choose LSD.

    3- An importance about the things I am talking/thinking/listening during the experience, because it´s going to be things about myself, I will be more focused and care a lot about what I can discover. (I think this got particularly amplified since I dosed the day/ days after having "relapsed" into porn, where I usually start thinking again about what things I am doing wrong and what is not working and also I get particularly emotional (kind of sad, let it be said) This is part of the strong set and setting! )

    What I discovered in the last experience about my pornography use and how I understand it now:

    So what happened in my last experience. I got the idea of watch some Leo old video´s which are more "ground to earth" . I stumbled upon the video "how to handle your emotions" or something like this.

    I follow the visualization/exercise, and when it finished it let me thinking about emotions yeah... So after that I open my porn of choice. I become fully and totally consciouss that my porn use is surrounded by emotions.

     

    In the experience of watching the porn on small dose of LSD, I followed Leo´s advice and I became a "super-conductor" of emotions instead of rejecting and defend myself from them.

     

    The experience was interesting, it felt like i have been running all of this 2 years from actually facing what I felt when I watched that porn that made me aroused but afterwards made me so shameful.

    I didn´t discovered much else, basically that emotions was the key know to discover what the fuck is wrong with me.

    So 2 days pass and I have "urges" to watch porn again. After all of this time, if at day 2 urges come up i wouldn´t have any problem whatsover on letting them pass, but something feels wrong in avoiding uncomfortable emotions. I want to go watch porn again and stay mindful again what i am feeling.

    I do it, and the porn doesn´t feel like it hurts me anymore. 

    This might sound very fucking strange. ¿What the fuck man, porn its supposed to be pleasureable, you say you suffered while watching porn? 

    Well, not exactly, it is enjoyable because it is arousing, but after so much time being aware (trying) of what I am seeing, you start to see what you are doing to yourself and trust me, part is arousing part is painful.

    But not so much anymore. This time I am just seeing and feeling what is there. Then I masturbate. Then the shame it´s almost not there anymore.

    I see that I have been lying myself all my life and have been maintening an identity of confidence that actually didn´t correspond at all with my actions in life.

    This type of porn i was taling about, it threatened that identity. It threatened my "I am confident" identity.

    That is why it hurt so much. That is why I was avoiding it with so much effort.

    Basically, by being minful, porn showed me what I was scared of. Of seeing the part that I dont like about myself and even couldn´t even take a peek never in my life because it hurt to my ego too much. In fact I always considered my self as a guy with "high self-esteem". To that point goes self-delusion to protects one´s identity!!

    I started meditation 3 years ago, I have had some self-inquiry moments that felt spiritual, I had had a yoga experience where I lost myself for some minutes, but let me tell you, I haven´t been more scared in my life than ever now.

    You know what happens when you spend all of your life maintining and identity that you are confident and amazing, and you are exactly almost the contrary? Then you realize that. In about 2 weeks. This actually really feels like myself is dying.

    Now I am really grateful I did spiritual exercises in the past, It feels it´s going to be more easy to let go. I guess my persona is ready to die.

  17. Posted

    I wonder why in Spirituality there is a (justified) habit of keeping open-minded to nearly everything, except...suicide.

    I remember Leo said in one blog post that suicide was Ego selfish act, I would want to know why. I can´t see why suicide is a ego selfish act and improving your life using other´s resources (for example) isn´t.

    Please don´t understand this as an encouragement for suicide! It´s not. I´m just trying to have a interesting (i hope) discussion that in other online sites i surely couldn´t because it probably would be censored/banned.

  18. Posted

    I have very clear that I don't want to keep playing the game of chasing things (including self-devopment) and creating new problems and desires.

    I have been doing it all my life and to be honest I can't see my mind stopping this game anytime soon. No matter how much I try to balance myself, I already seen my bullshit ego creating more delusion and problems to keep itself alive.

    I am young (recently 24years old) but I think I'm pretty certain I wouldn't be miserable meditating for the rest in my life in a cave. In fact there's some kind of intuition that tells me this life I'm supposed to live it like that, finally letting go of the material game of life and going full deep into truth and silence. 

    I work in software development since not a long time ago and until recently I have this plan of keep learning more of the industry to have a business of my own related to conscious leaving or either not conscious but that make enough money and go retire to go 100% into the spirituality ( but this is obviously very rare to happen).

    But to be honest this can take lots of time and nothing guarantee me that it won't be another self delusion to keep playing the game of the mind. I don't see why when I have my business there will be any difference and my mind won't create problems or stories to excuse into not going to pursue/stay in truth totally.

     

    So what is the other option. Where are really places that you can practice spirituality and for an exchange of some work they can provide with the place and food. I don't want to go to a Buddhist monastery lol. There isn't something more modern/adapted to the world of now that can provide you with this?

  19. Posted

    21 hours ago, Psychonaut said:

    Acid for me is not a great tool for insights. My "insights" on it are mostly related to my life. It gives me a different view on it.

    • Change this
    • Think about this in this way
    • Change your behaviour to this.

    At least for me it is a self development aid, not really a spiritual insights aid. It is possible that it is just my bias, as I have been a practical person and so I value practical insights that I can implement easily. A more contemplative person might get deep insights on longer trips. 

    It kind of depends on you, at the beginning acid can be effectively used to peck away at the mind and take out some of the pieces that are falling of and throw them on the bio compost in the garden.

    yeah, acid is also like this for me too. Can´t get spiritual even if i try on it lol.

  20. Posted · Edited by Javfly33

    Don´t get me wrong, In terms of leaving traumas behind, obssesions, stories that you create in your mind, points of view...etc I have gotten tremendous value from psychedelics to cut a lot of my bullshit, in terms of introspection I am very, very in awe to psychedelics, I don´t know how fucked up I would be if i haven´t done some trips in my youth, since still my personality is not healthy as I would like, I imagine I still will benefit from them in the future in this aspect.

    However now even If I am very serious about becoming awake I am still plan my future, I still have plans to my future business, then why the hell for example I would do 5-MeO-DMT in this stage of my life (i haven´t tried that one yet), have an eye-opening experience but then...will my ego really abandon his plans after whatever non-dual experience I will get? No. I think psychedelics for spiritual purposes are great:

    1.  For people who haven´t got a clue what an altered state of consciousness is and doing it by "sober" methods would maybe take them years (Yoga, meditation, etc). Then this way they can actually start their practice/their spiritual path because they have seen this is not just words or concepts.
    2.  For people who can actually "call it a day" to everything in its life, don´t have any real plans to the future, they are retired, etc...and can really go deep, submit all the way with the direction that the psychedelic experience can give you.

    For the rest of us, I wonder, what´s the point in doing something as strong as 5-MeO-DMT (or big doses of other classic psychedelics?) Don´t you are a playing a kind of game there? 

     

  22. Posted

    3 hours ago, Corpus said:

    I think its very important to think critically about the utility of the microscoop device for reliably measuring your dose. A volumetric device such as this has scant regard for the density of the material within it and the degree of compression applied to the substance when loading. This will undoubtedly affect the dose; for example powder that's loosely kept in a baggie will be denser if compressed for example by being in ones back pocket and sat upon.

    The low cost 0.001g precision scales are much better if the following is borne in mind:

    1.The resolution at sub-10mg doses is poor especially if directly put onto the pan;

    2.A much more reliable method IME, would be to put a cigarette paper upon the pan to establish its weight (small paper is 47-49mg consistently enough for the brand I use), then remove the paper, ADD the powder onto this paper while it is off the pan and then replace it on said pan to establish the weight. Simple subtraction will give you a pretty reproducible result.

    3.Adding the powder to the paper whilst on the pan is more likely to give erratic results; this is just part of the technology of the device.   

    Shit, i´ve been trying to do this but I think I have always been doing the number 3.

    But i can´t see different between number 2.... What do you mean "replace it on said pan". Sorry because english is not my first language

  23. Posted · Edited by Javfly33

    So far I have realized this meditation just 2 times, and the results have been amazing.

    I have done it only 11 minutes, the recommended minimum time, and I have experienced spontaneous physical movements, sometimes violent but nothing to worry about.

    In this meditation there´s a point in which you transition from being "You" chanting and meditating, to just your body be taken by something. I am not saying I am channeling an "entity", but that there comes a point in which the "You" is no longer "You", is just a part of the experience. An observation arises of the one who is chanting. In that moment I can´t say "I" am chanting. There´s something chanting the mantra. 

    I´d like to know if there´s anyone here who practice this meditation and what else can tell me, it seems an interesting meditation and I will keep on doing it.