Javfly33

I appreciate your help brother. But I don't realize it still. I have watched the video of Leo of the guided exercise, it was powerful but I do not have clarity most of my daily life, with the exception sometimes when I do spiritual practices. thanks for the motivation, I hope it gets better and more stable thats a good one

What kind of practices you do?

God is in the process of awakening...by you now projecting there's something outside of you that is God, are keeping yourself (God) sleep...

I feel the impulse of humans is to project human emotion and thought to God: God created this because of ___ Reality is this way because is for you to ___ God is leaving you breadcrumbs to awaken Etc ... This kind of statements have in common, that it assumes there is a Personal God that is watching for your feelings and Life circles around human feelings or motivations. If something Life has taught several times that it doesn't matter how much you pray, good things will happen to you when you do the things that work. A murderer can still enjoy the beauty of watching a sunset, yet you that never did any harm, might be depressed looking at it, just because the murderer now is at a state of flow with life and you don't. Is a matter of skill. Skill. Not morality. 'God' doesn't seem to have a personal human emotional agenda... So I would watch out of outsourcing the responsibility of your life to a Caring, Emotional, FatherLike God. Notice how this is literally what CHRISTIANS do. When I say God I mean the same as Reality, or Life, or Existence. In my experience, Existence does not have this emotional or moral objectives. Is only the mind that gets in the middle and starts to project this things to 'God'.

Morality is not gravity. I'm talking about human morality, not physics Precisely what I'm saying is that inmoral behaviour won't bite you in the ass eventually necessarily. In fact "inmoral" for one person is moral for another. Is completely relative. For a rapist that is about to rape he thinks is completely justified and moral what he's about to do. What does that even mean? Or you just read it from Leo?

I´ve been investigating that pain and that feeling and I think I know why it feels so bad. I think in the root of it is that there is a belief or feeling of one being inherently bad, not worthy of Being oneself. I think when someone rejects us or other situation happens that triggers us that pain, what really happens is that in a way we are experiencing again the belief "You are Bad". /You don't deserve Existing / You are not Good / You are the unworthy of Love. Now the question would be how to stop believing that. More feeling it? More going deep into the pain? I think this belief is in the stomach, it seems like traumatic events from childhood (or past generation trauma), the body registers the horror of thinking one is unworthy, and is 'saved' in the stomach. That's why if you investigate next time you have 'social anxiety' you will feel nervous in the stomach.

I am more sure each day that being successful with meditation depends 90% on skill and 10% on time spent/'effort'. Careful with outsourcing everything to just the 'letting go' motto. Of course ultimately 'letting go' is neccesary, but how you get there is important. If there is no skill you might never get to properly 'let go'. So you might think you are 'letting go', but you are actually 'trying to let go', so instead you are not actually letting go. In the past I had 1 hour or half an hour meditation habits each day, and while more or less I was able to achieve a certain effectivity (meaning, more or less I was 'peaceful' most of the time and it started to become enjoyable) it was still kind of hit and miss. And the hits were still quite mellow. Noways, what do I do, is yoga stretchings (a mix between Hatha Yoga and stretching), and then afterwards I sit to meditate, but no timer, that's just the last exercise of the session, whatever is the duration is the duration. So sometimes is 15 minutes, sometimes is 3 minutes. What happen today is, 3 days without meditating, I do today the session, I finish, I sit to do the meditation. Just as im sitting down, in the second 5-6 after sitting, bum. Gone. Total Samadhi. Pure unity. Yujuuu. How is that possible? The last 3 days I took drugs, didn't meditate, didn't exercised, 0 'consciousness baseline', yet what happens is: A yoga practice practiced over 100 times, dozens of subtle movements learned, I sit and the body energetically is completely opened, I move the hands in such a way, and the back is in a certain way, that as soon as I closed my eyes, and opened my hands, I was gone. There wasn't an intention to 'let go', a build up of 'consciousness', or an effort to silence my mind. Just that the movements, breathing and postures were the precise steps in order for the body to be instantly receptive/connected to the mystical. No praying, no morality, no miracles. Just that the right 'buttons' were pressed. I believe we are giving very little importance to the science and tools of spiritual techniques, and a lot to discussions, ideas, effort, morality, and idealistic letting go´s. I think we need to get more pragmatic. There is a lot to learn.

Yes. It exists . Is not a physical thing, so the question "what is consciousness" mentally is impossible to answer, because is OUTSIDE the mind. Calling it mind as Leo says is problematic, because when we think about mind things as thoughts, emotions or etc come to mind. An consciousness or that no thing is outside that. (thank God btw 😅...)

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Yeap, that's the power of this techniques, when you get to the meditation you are in an activated yet relaxed state which is very conducive for maximum results. There is a big difference between that and going to meditate half sleepy and with mental fog, which some people seem to do. Yeap The point is I enter samadhi when the technique was done right. The thing is people think samadhi or no self experiences comes from "Grace" and it might not be the case. Although sometimes intense surrender is another technique that can work of course. In the past I had a kriya yoga practice and I would enter to ecstatic states with the breathing each day for several weeks. It wasn't coincidence or grace, just a technique very well learned (and that at that point in my life I felt pretty good so I was able to invest lot of energy into it) So my point is to treat spirituality more like a science 1. Kratom and cigarettes, so no they weren't psychedelics. 2. Right now I practice Angamardana and truly loving it. I get your point in the sense that it all depends on where you set the bar. But IMO the bar should be set in no suffering or almost no suffering.

This is not really a mental health problem but since posting it in any other sub would be off topic I thought this was the most proper place. Basically I´ve been doing opiates for the past 6 years and in retrospect I have to say I´m not sure if I should quit or not. My biggest motivation to quit last year was being able to go deeper in my spiritual practice (meditation and yoga), and in fact I was able to go much deeper and learn a lot, life got more profound and I thought I was going 'somewhere' finally, but at the end of the day I didn't solve my traumas which honestly is the cause that in the first place I started trying drugs in the first place. As I said in this 6 years of use I have taken breaks and sometimes I quit them for 'long' time (last time I was 6-7 months withouth using), but I end up coming back because I basically don't see much difference on quality of life, and I miss the feeling of emotional safety of them, ultimately is all because of the trauma I guess. The best part of being sober is never feeling sick, and being able to get the benefits of my spiritual practice at its fullest, but if I´m honest I sometimes think I prefer to be 10-20% of the week feel sick but being able to feel incredible peacefulness and mood-boost 80% of time. Also just the feeling of knowing you have that crutch of stability/peacefulness/optimistism in a pill, already sometimes makes me feel good, withouth not even taking them lol. Just knowing one has that. And Health effects opiates are probably the safest drug on the planet. Constipation would be the only downside, but it can totally be controlled with correct supplementation as magnesium and fibre, and a good diet. At this point my body feels completely normal doing them. I don't have health any side effects. I don't know, probably I will end up quitting them in the near future. Is not like I have the most compulsive use in the planet, as I written in other subforms, the state of consciousness I experience with Yoga, blows out the water the highs of drugs. So is not like is the 'best high in the world'. Is more like is a high that I still can do things and be productive, but with a subtler feeling of eternal energy and mood boost. It just seems that makes life less rough and difficult. Is a habit that doesn't seem to make my life 'a wreck' or make me homeless, like culture usually believes all opiate users are. Also, this is not like I´m in the 'honeymoon period', like this is like my 6 year of using after using for the first time. I´m speaking with a certain use experience. (Btw, when I say opiates I don't include heroin in them. Heroin is a whole other beast and it has a category on its own. I don't use it nor I plan to, Do not try heroin, is not in the same 'bag' as the rest of drugs. )

@Bazooka Jesus The thing is I´m not sure. Last year I had the idea of, is all states of energy and consciousness. There are thoughts more highly vibratory and less vibratory. So I´m just going to handle my inner state of energy. No more 'self concept'. That went well, for some time. But then "the mind got me." So the healing thing. In a way maybe is the way, in other way, I fear is part of the problem, like just going down the spiral of trauma but never seen to go anywhere. Things as getting therapy or something already feels like weak, maybe is just going to lower energies. I fear engaging with it might be the devil in disguise. Or not, you never know. Is quite a macabre puzzle piece I´m in. Ok thanks I will put it. My spiritual practice can give me those things but sometimes it doesn't. The drugs is just like 100% effective, unless you develop tolerance lol. So I guess they are not that effective either

have you tried Kratom? First two years of my use it would nod me to sleep every night

I find the most challenging stuff is not the food is being hungry. The days I work out I don't have an issue ingesting the calories, but the days I don't sometimes is weird for my body to be 'Ok, let me get those 3000 calories today too'. Btw I have no idea of body bulking or bodybuilding, but I am hitting the gym 3-4 times a week just doing 30-40minutes (so basically im going pretty chill) but I´m ingesting 3000 calories each day. You would think I would get fat but I don't. I guess I need to increase my workout durations ideally.

Just see in your nearest circle how habitual is for men to show angriness vs woman.

me too, I love it. Is like at last she have a life in there and is not a zombie. What I think happens is that women role is to be emotionally neutral and protective so society have told them they can't show certain emotions otherwise they won't be a 'true woman'. When they step out of this bs, is obviously great to see .

@TheGod Those three phrases are all from Leo. Are you sure you are not projecting authority either to some teacher? I myself have taken psychedelics for years, I´ve come to the conclusion that they do provide mystical states but (at least in my experience) it all gets boiled up with mind data. At the end I ended up more confused that where I started. I don't trust psychedelics anymore for this work. But you do you. Walk your path. See if it works or not.

Set a more intimate/sexual frame, get the numbers ONLY when is very clear you two want to go on a date. I´ve wasted too much energy and hopes getting half ass worked numbers.

Can bullying create trauma strong enough to condition feelings of unworthiness, humiliation, etc...for the following years? Contemplating about my past I can remember a year in school when I was 14 years old and this guy bullied me through the whole year. I remember some days having fear of what would happen every day, although thinking about it he didn't bullied me most of the days. I believe this bullying might have traumatised me because the previous years I was a normal kid and I hang out with people just fine. Yet the next years after this year with the bully, I started to be very secluded and not go out almost at all. From that a lot of years of self-development and healing and whatever have passed, with some success here and there but not really solving anything in terms of feeling quite right within. The thing is I´m not clear of how much do I remember about this guy. I don't know if nothing much happened or on the other hand my mind might have 'forgotten' certain memories as a defence mechanism for the trauma. Who knows.

I was going to say that ultimately it seems psychedelics can not be trusted neither for this work.

I suspect God is not a human that wants things. 🌝

Of course this is not everything that they want or a 100% way of always having success with them, but rather the disqualifying factor. In other words if you don't do this you will make things very hard for you. Kind of like going into a job interview not well groomed or well dressed. So what is it? Basically if you are approaching a women and trying to escalate with her, what women will look for is if you are being selfish or not. If subconsciously you do not really need her much, and you are doing the escalation *for her, because you enjoy projecting and embodying the caressing/leading/protecting masculine energy, she will respond very good to that The basic things are; To... Lead her Protect her Give her pleasure Etc ... If she starts to Intuit (an women are very good in this regard) that you are being an emotional vampire, looking for validation, etc ... Alarms will go up. Very fast. And when you see this you understand why most men that had always issues with attracting women have a hard time changing regardless of how much they try. Deep down the dynamics haven't changed for them. They still treating the femenine as an object to leech value from, to complete them for validation and love. This is absolutely CONTRARY to what women will value on you. You need to love the femenine for what is it, and go approach escalate with them in an offering value kind of way, never to get anything from them. More in the energy of "I embody my masculine energy and I'm going to be with this girl so my masculine energy finds expression, I'm doing this for her, obviously I'm already complete within ". Etc Basically the dynamic of leeching value vampire needs to go.

Who have had that experience while tripping, that you are in that no thought awareness, thinking you are now enlightened for life, that you have "got it", that there's no way you are losing "this", and yet eventually you "lose it"? Of course the mind will say..."is because you ingested a psychedelic, it last X hours, and then it starts to wear of". Well that is the materialistic explanation. But that's not exactly what happens. Inside the trip and when you are "enlightened" or in the state of no thought, there is clearly the revelation that there is NO TIME. There is always NOW, always. Time is not "moving". Is always NOw. You can not scape the NOW. So how is possible that you "lose" the enlightened state? Is not because the psychedelic wears off. Is because you start to tell yourself that you are in that silent awareness state because you ingested a psychedelic (you project the responsability to the substance as it has some magic power) and thus as doing that, you fall "victim" to the consensual imagined properties of the psychedelic, which is: is a drug that last X hours in the brain and then wears off, so Awareness by projecting authority to this beliefs and thoughts, it "creates" the illusion that indeed, the psychedelic is starting the wear off. (Nothing actually is wearing off, because the psychedelic is a complete "placebo" for you to Awaken). After believing this thoughts and projections, slowly Fear start to arise a little bit. A thought here, a thought there. You decide to grasp them. Bum, you lost. Again enlightenment gone. Again the illusion of thoughts. You see the Trick? Is all created by thoughts, is fucking insane.

Good observation. There is a place outside the mind where nothing of the crap we are used to exist. They say those who stay in that place long enough, end up abandoning the body (Mahasamadhi) because of the irresistible sweet Bliss and explosive 🧨 good feeling liberation that is being outside the realm and chains of the mind.

To the solipsistic warriors: "other" is also a thought 🤭