Javfly33

Your complain is nonsensical. Spirituality is about trascendence. In that trascendence a new and more evolved way of handling problems might appear. But Spirituality is what it is. If you want to handle your problems in the common way you do it like that. I don´t understand what exactly you are complaining, is like going to a football club and complaining that they are missing the point of also adding some ping pong matches too in the interlude. You want to play football you go to a football club, you want play ping pong you go to ping pong club. Do not mix things up. Do not call spirituality a self serving circus of survival. 'Integrating being human' = I want to make spirituality again about my survival.

Krishnamurti was funny 😂 Wise man too 🙏

Is momentary ego death. Permanent ego death would be Enlightment, or the Liberation of yourself.

The real you or the absolute. For me is very clear: Lets say tomorrow (I Hope not lol) i fall off a cliff and my body is completely ruined, It can not function anymore. Meanwhile in your case nothing happens to you. There is a reality or substance as you call It, which is experience your body and mind, is having your relative experience. In my case the relative experience can not continue, so either It does not continue or It finds another relative experience (another body). As you see the options are very clear, relative experience continues or It doesn't. Yet some of you guys want to deny both, that It can not stop also that It can not reincarnate. Basically you guys logic Only holds if death wouldnt exist. But relative death very much exist, so obviously you guys Will have to eventually face this question. See just because you Keep having an experience, does not mean lot of people die everyday. The reality that is giving Life to those bodies, when the body is gone, that reality continues, so the question of Liberation or reincarnation naturally appears.

There is not an experience of Being a human, there is an experience of limitation due to identification to so called body which you call human. Whatever I am is the same with a human or without a human, with birth or death. No, I am not this experience nor anything you can know or describe. If something can disappear then in the first place that was already relative.

I know that, but im not getting what you are trying to say with It 🧐 A human exists as a concept, what else could It be? Is an identity, is as if my culture has the ritual of putting belts on babies, and so through your whole Life you are wearing this belt, you shower with this belt, you go to bed with the belt. If at some point you think the belt is you, or at least you include the belt as part of you. Then identification has become reality.

@James123 completely agree, intelectual knowing is opposite to Truth Obviously if you are more than your body, whatever that is, that incarnates. Maybe incarnation is a confusing world. Maybe you could think It in terms of you are using a body and a mind with a certain level of Intelligence. If you would be using a Cat body that would mean you are not in an advanced level of Intelligence. Because the question of freedom wouldnt even be there. But you have a human mechanism where you can contemplate what is Reality, that means you are in a certain high level of evolution. Im not saying Liberation means you destroy reality, im just saying you understand this body and mind and just limited tools and your present experience is beyond this two tools. If that happens i would say Liberation has happened. Is clear there is an intelligence in the design. I dont understand what you mean by "from an absolute perspective". The reality is you prefer to incarnate as a human than as a dog. You might say you dont care because from the absolute perspective is all one but if I tell you from tomorrow you Will be a slave to a human and you Will be kept in a leash in exchange he Will give you food, Will you Accept? So you value your hard earned freedom, even Though sometimes It is challenging to handle this freedom with a human mind. So there is a mature intelligence there Who Will not go back to being a dog in the Next Life. Thats for sure. I dont understand what you mean.

I attach myself with thinking because apparently there is a body with I identify with, therefore since I believe I am this body, I stress myself daily to give it food because Im terrified if the body dies "I" will disappear.

if there is no body why you eat everyday? 🤨

Of course, is like you put some shoes which are not your size and it feels off, the shoes does not change the size of your feet, the shoes apparently show a different reality but is in the feeling (feeling is off = duality) and the seeking (non duality) which speaks 'the truth'.

The ego/human does not decide when Mahasamadhi happens, so is not like me or anyone for that matter will decide on 'when to go'. Is not like pressing a button or snapping your fingers. It will happen when Life is ready, the fruit is ripe. For most will happen at moment of physical death of course. My post was a bit ironic, although the last two paragraphs were mostly true and @Water by the River agreed with me too: we come here talking about spirituality in a way as a distraction to avoid/slow down the process. Whatever to scratch some time before the inevitable happens. 😂

Because when the creation happened you lost yourself (duality), now you are seeking yourself again (non duality)

Woah 😎 That was great to read

This idea of going to a house I have in the mountains on an almost unpopulated village (20 people) is really growing on me. Is been growing on my mind for the past year and since I got fired from work is even more clear. I see myself looking for Jobs and I dont see the point, why Keep spending time and energy in works that i absolutely dont care at all. Also I dont even almost save money even from this Jobs, so basically im working to afford a living on a city. Additionally is been a while since I took advantage of Being in a city, before i used to go out but some time ago i realized i have no interest in what society sells me as interesting, which is spending, socializing and having material experiences. My plan with becoming a full time Yogui would be to create a special high quality spiritual teaching based on my 24/7 Focus on sadhana, the Only issue is that i see this very difficult to monetize. Especially because i want it to be authentic and real, I want to offer real value to people. The idea would be to generate some cash flow from an online platform and m then if things become big i want to build a proper retreat since I have terrain) I need realistic ideas in how can I make this work.

You know We use this forum to accumulate Karma so we can extend the process, if everyone here just stopped entering and just meditate we would experience more than one mahasamadhi So using this forum is similar to what Ramakrishna used to do to hold himself to the body: becoming an avid/obssesive eater In other words we talk about non-duality to generate duality because if not we would dissolve too soon

@Kuba Powiertowski Sure, but we are talking about removing You from the equation, not existence. As long as you are gone, who cares if there is an existence left?

It depends what you mean with 'everyone'.

👏 I can´t believe we agree on something finally 😌

Sharing a perception I had this morning... ☝️ Consider the possibility that Reality is absolutely single and united, is One, but, the Reality is able to fragment itself into two things by imagination or the skill of creation/manifestation. Creation/manifestation would be: objects, body, in summary physical reality. Since the imagination is limitless, what you call 'other people' is just Reality imagining other types of imagination. One imagination might be a woman, another a kid, another a man, another a dog, another a plant. Where all this imagination is taking place? Of course in one single Self, in one single Brahman. The One that realizes itself, realizes whole existence is him and accepts fully that It Is Alone. 'others' are parts of God that still are too engaged in imagination. But for the One that realizes, there are no parts. So both solipsism and non-solipsism can coexist: For the one that is Awake, solipsism is 100% the case. For the ones that still have to awake, others do indeed exist.

Yess berries too i forgot Lol

@Buck Edwards:

I understand "feeling" like a boy/girl happens in your brain, not on your knee, that´s for sure. As a full fledged human being, handling Feeling/emotion/thought correctly is your business. Just tell me something, if your identity is not working for you but against you (it makes you go to a surgeon to change your organs) is that a good use of an identity or is that a bad use of an identity? @Nemra We all know identity is imaginary, The point of using a identity is that it will work for you, not against you. So clearly if is working against you, then your imagination is ruling your life. When imagination is ruling the life of someone, we usually call that people 'crazy' or that it needs to go to the psychiatrist. The problem is since 90% of people in this society are as crazy as them, they applaud their crazyness and now we have come to a place the crazyness is normalized.

of course are identities. Is very simple, whatever genitals you were born with, thats what you get. If you create A MESS INSIDE YOUR HEAD, thats your Karma. In fact even kids that feel 'like a girl' or 'like a boy' when they are born with opposite sex genitals, thats still mental illness. They just inheredited. So is not about denying that some people might have gender disphoria, is about not encouraging or normalizing the mental illness. Look, is as simple as this: You have gender disphoria? Ok, fine, Im not going to deny your situation. But instead of applauding the mess you have in your head, and engaging with it to the point of going to surgery or taking hormones, why don´t we look at the cause of why you are having that gender disphoria. Clearly if you have disphoria something wrong you are doing with your mind. What you need to look is at your mind, not go remove or change your organs just because you think your mind is always right

Is not Ok. You are basically approving the identification party: The ingredient soup to make mental illness.

Nirvana = Liberating yourself even from the process of 'existing' as something. Wheter that is God, Infinity, the Self, or a chimpancée. As long as you Exist as something, you are entangled and in "Maya". 🙏