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I don't think so. I'm a bit ashamed because I've endorsed Tate in the past but read the charges. "Cops say the suspects used 'physical violence and mental coercion' to force the women to comply with their demands, including 'intimidation, constant surveillance, control and invoking alleged debts." Doesn't that sound exactly like something he does and endorses? Tate is pretty unhinged, he's talked publically about doxing people and sending vans of guys to people's houses that shit-talk him online. I know specifically, he tracked down that journalist that said something bad about him and showed up to his house with Tristan and he also had that guy that was an addict that said he could beat him up and then Tate doxxed him and his parents and threatened to spend millions to sue them into poverty if the guy didn't humiliate himself in atonement. Threats, coercion, intimidation, surveilling and tracking down people, and blackmail are all things he's talked about and bragged about. It's interesting since he does have legit good points. It's a nuanced situation. I don't think valuetainment should be ashamed of platforming controversial and nuanced discussions. We don't have to support and stand for everything the people we have conversations with do. Good take, I think he's a narcissist and honestly doesn't see his behavior as problematic so he outs himself unintentionally.

I think it's honestly pretty much impossible to predict the economic impact of AIs to the world. Probably the closest guess is for the next 5-10 years it will allow individual entrepreneurs to compete extremely effectively in the market by having the AI be like an outsourced team and help his/her creative process. In the future beyond 10+ years though then it will inevitably bring some form of socialized economy as it will so ridiculously outcompete humans in every sector that it will make our current economy ludicrous. Because yes, it can already mimic emotion and will soon probably make it themselves. Ray Kurzweil believes we will have a general AI around 2029. It's a big debate in the futurology community if a machine can have consciousness but if you're a fan of this work I find it hard to believe that you don't believe in AIs having consciousness and emotions.

Who is we? If the last 5 years have taught me anything it's that there's no we. YOU better have a plan if things overnight get 3x more expensive. That should be something you've been working on and keep actively working on. If that happens and you're not ready, your country will let you starve and die on the streets as they do every day with homeless people and people that can't make it. This is a very wise comment. I personally would say there's 0% chance that China invades Taiwan. It militarily, economically, and geopolitically makes no sense, it would ruin their country.

@Tyler Robinson Ideally relationships should have logic and business should have emotion. Keeping them separate leads to all sorts of issues.

The book She Comes First by Ian Kerner is quite good, it's the best book out there on oral sex.

Okay in what context?

@Karmadhi Daygame should be combined with nightgame and more importantly online game, social circle, and social media game otherwise it is a fool's errand.

Start making the content, that's the only hard part. Consistently making content is a beast of a willpower and work ethic exercise. I've been trying to do it consistently for almost 10 years.

Your results will only increase linearly if you track them and you have a process. If you randomly go out for 10 years for sure you'll make progress but on what metrics and how would you even be able to compare? It's really useful to systemize game, break it down into different categories and really take the study of it seriously otherwise you'll be like every other guy. You'll get some results sometimes and sometimes not. If you know that now you can reliably get x number of dates with girls that are X level of attractiveness and have relationships with them that last X amount of time then it's much easier to track your progress and how far you still are from where you wanna be.

Do you have some sort of valuable product already? Why would he offer to build you anything if you don't have something yet? I would highly advise building something yourself first and being familiar with your niche and market so you know what is a good deal and makes sense vs what is a scam. If you don't know anything and don't have a base for yourself first it's basically guaranteed you're gonna get ripped off. Think of musical artists or onlyfans girls with no leverage for themselves. Hard to say beyond that.

Welcome to the information age, what makes you think you own your data? Perhaps an individual company/service can be nice enough to give you control of it but all the services you use collect and store your data and you have no legal claim over it. Good thing people are fighting against that but it'll get even bigger and it is what it is for now.

I think a lot of BDSM requires more consciousness and self-development than the average sex. I would consider it stage green/yellow sex since it requires a lot of trust and communication skills as well as a dropping of the ego and a return more animalistic pleasures.

That's not at all what that implies, it's a correlation, not causation. Meaning that there could be like @something_else pointed out religious coercion to not get divorced or my favorite explanation being that it leaves you with more options so you're more inclined to get out of a stale/toxic relationship. There is also the point that it's actually irrelevant if it's better or not, you are entitled to autonomy and to make your own decisions. I can't barge into your house and stop you from drinking a beer even if maybe hypothetically it'd be better if you didn't.

@StarStruck I guess we're gonna find out who's valuable and who's not. I think Youtubers will on the contrary gain a lot from this, it's a job that heavily relies on both creativity and the tedious job of having to learn video editing and doing it over and over. If they can narrate to the AI the kind of video they want and how they want it edited then it reduces their workload by over 50%.

@Ulax I mean if you allow me to argue that point, you have to take subjectivity on good faith at a certain point. If someone has an agreed upon and logical definition then you can say nothing is defined and you can use whatever definition you want but I'd say that's just bad faith epistemology.

@StarStruck What is LOC?

Multiple wives is a great ambition, I'm surprised not many men share it. I am on that quest as well, let's see how it goes. Three bisexual 24/7 bdsm slave wives is my ultimate fantasy, let's see how close I get. @Ulax How do you disagree? And as interesting as the concept is, I don't think I could hook up with a man. It's a bit too metaphysical for me right now.

Attracting a partner to you enough that they wanna spend time with you and call you their bf/gf is just the first step. Interlacing your lives together to be productive and healthy while growing up and probably bringing children into this world is a whole other thing. It's basically a business partnership. Similar to the difference between being friends with someone and starting a business together. All the lack of self-development, trauma, limiting beliefs, ideology, etc that you have deep inside you will come out and so will your partners. If you already understand that this will happen and have already spent years fixing this in yourself then not only are you starting from a better point but you know that it will come and will be ready for it. Regular people that just get into relationships do not understand this and think they can just figure it out and love each other, that's their paradigm. That's basically suicide and why most relationships end up toxic, not working out, or just stale. Its like thinkingg you can start a business without knowing anything about it nor even knowing that you can even get mentors/books that will teach you and then betting your financial future on it. You're gonna end up homeless. That's the naive view of it. When you're on dates with girls/friends with girls/at the club talk to girls about their lives. Talk to them about all their male friends that tried to sleep with them when they were sad/drunk. Talk to them about all the creepy stuff/sexual abuse that they've had to endure. Talk to them about that time they were broke and then their male bff offered to help them out if she would suck his dick. Or when they hit puberty and started showing curves how their step-parent and/or male relatives started treating them differently. Or that time they had a date with this guy that seemed interesting and then ended up drugging her. Of course, these are generalizations and don't necessarily happen to every girl but it does happen to a majority. That is the reality of being a high-value human by default, you become an objectified commodity that other humans fight over. I know of at least 3 girls in modern, first-world, safe cities that almost ended up getting trafficked. There is also the other side of the coin with girls that are not attractive/disabled/live in a 3rd world country and have to deal with all of this on TOP of not getting the positive perks of being a hot girl. As a man as long as you're not lazy or delusional you can work and get anything and basically become a living God that gets anything he wants. That is how you appreciate it; you realize that your masculine drive is basically the human version of infinite divine creation. And when you're able to tap into that the women in your lives really start to appreciate it and basically look up to you as a God. I would never trade that for an easy basic relationship or getting free drinks at the bar, are you crazy?

@Danioover9000 Doubt there's a legitimate reason for it, usually, these ideologies are conscious enough to be based on rationality; it's' generally just superstition. I wonder if this could lead Bali to be a bit more sovereign politically as they're generally much more liberal than mainland Indonesia AFAIK. I think perhaps some of it has to do with sexpats/sex tourism, I doubt that the local men are generally fond of this concept. It's interesting how the law is being written though, someone related to you has to report you for it to be considered a crime. So if tourists fuck it's fine and if you fuck a local whose family approves of it it's also fine. It hinders LGBTQ relationships too, as long as their family are disapproving of it. It's like community policing which I don't know if it's good or bad.

What do you guys theorize on the actual groundbreaking uses of this? As @Dryas says it seems to me like an evolution of a search engine that can go a level deeper than just formulating queries. I can't think of how this will change the world.

@Ulax I mean sure but then you're wrong. That's like calling yourself a terrorist because you rebel against the system by not paying for public transit. You're underestimating what the people that really believe in what you're talking about act like.

What's the telegram community, can you share it with me in a PM? And to your other two points, those are just ego backlash and delusions. There is no normal, we all struggle. The guys that get laid naturally without having to learn it usually end up in codependent relationships that they have a really hard time getting out of because they don't understand the paradigm of self-development. And even for the ones that don't, I would reframe that as a shame. There is great fun in having to learn this skill and then getting to enjoy sex/relationships as a reward that you know you had to work for and now deserve. Ask any hot girl you talk to if she's had toxic and shitty experiences and they'll most likely have an infinite list. Being a girl is a nightmare in many ways, almost everyone is trying to leach value from you without offering you equivalent value in return. Let's not even mention the more traumatic things that can happen to women that most likely will never happen to you as a man.

I think that's the answer a lot of times. Unless people are willing and in a life position where they can afford to invest a lot of time/mental energy into self-development then it's not worth it. Breaking your paradigms is actually an incredibly painful experience and if you don't have the increased life potential as a reward for it; I don't think it's worth it. IMO leave the old guy to his theories; they're probably bringing him a great deal of comfort. The only truth you're gonna enlighten him to is that there never were any conspiracies and if he had known this sooner he could've empowered himself greatly and lived a much better life but now his mind is too broken to do anything about it.

@something_else For real lol. Every man should take a break from dating once in a while to seriously level up their value proposition(finances, fitness, mental health, etc) so that they can come back into it in a much better position. @Ulax I wouldn't call that MGTOW. They take that to the extreme and make up their own communities and ideology based on the fundamental belief that doing this exact process is not worth it and women are not worth it in general and that you should just focus on yourself and having fun in life without worrying about the whole dating and child-rearing thing; hence the going your own way thing.

It's hard to imagine. You mean if every single guy had more or less the same SMV? Then I guess everyone would just fuck together like one giant polyamorous tribe. You can argue it's impossible though because the whole point of being dimorphic sexual beings is to try out different genetic adaptations, it would make no sense for males to have the same value as it would remove the necessity for males in the first place. At that point might as well have everyone be female and be able to impregnate themselves. So you can conclude sexual competition and "being chad" will never stop.