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@Markus I'll check it out.

@Shiva That silenced me

@Pouya @Salvijus Thank you for the video, i really like sadhguru Then what if a being is enlightened, is it going to still be awake after death or even next life? Or is it the end?

@Nahm @Markus@Truth Addict the relative doesn't exist, mind illusions. Absolute is reality. But why does a normal question turns into a inquiry? I know the answers but never experienced them truly. Answering verbally will give me a false sense of spirituality. Also I don't know why they usually say you should toss away your ideas while talking about it. Isn't past lives a form idea? It can be real but the idea is just thoughts.

@Truth Addict in the absolute term they don't.

Try out contemplation with a notebook for a while. Leo has a video about it.

@28 cm unbuffed That's why Truth is uncommunicatable. Go find it yourself.

Why people try to convince others of ideas? For me, ideas of non duality are ideas again. It misses the point of it. @Paul92 Go live your life as you like it. Believe in everything you want to believe. Nobody is forcing you to accept something you cannot accept yet. Maybe later you'll come back try again and maybe you won't. It's ok to believe. It's ok to not believe. No morality is needed for anything.

@Dodo Dreams can be awesome

My dream: I was inside a zen meditation room full of people meditating. I was out of breath and running into a door. I opened it and there was a old man with a white beard. I guess he was the zen master. I yelled: there are only two paths to the Truth, Love and Empathy. Then I picked up a piece of paper and a black pen and drew a group of elephants facing a direction but the one ahead of them was in light and others behind it were in dark and in shadow. He stood up and walked outside and drew the same picture but this time all the elephants were grey. He said there are only two paths to the Truth, elimination of falsehood and darkness and growing light and awareness. This wasnt a lucid dream which i could be aware and do stuff concsiously but after I woke up I remembered it vividly. What do you think?

@Aakash This is possible. Ive been thinking a lot about why I cant love people selflessly and what is it that stops me from doing it. I knew the things I said and the zen master said, but the elephant drawings were things that i havent seen anywhere

@OmniYoga reminded me of Zen Devils. But there can still be true gurus. I feel like more self inquiry/contemplation is what I will do. I like their tone and using vipassana before them.

I see a lot of people answering this question with "you must have a guru. It has to be with a guru". Is it true?

@OmniYoga Maybe both sides have some truth in them. I am also someone who uses rationalization on everything (not so good tho ) but maybe it is true?

@Salvijus What if someone cant reach a guru? Going for other techniques?

@Richard Alpert seen a few of his videos, looks informative

@Serotoninluv I have a view on yoga as a "woowoo" way of spirituality and I cant really understand how holding my breath and strecthing can help me with my false ideas and beliefs? You know, its like a ego resistance to ideas like chakras and mantras with complex hand positions. I dont know if it really works but apperently it works for many.

@Serotoninluv @Salvijus many say this is so powerful and im interested in learning it but I dont have access to a guru or organization specially a true one. If few well written books can help, I'll go for it.

@OmniYoga I think it can be a distraction for experiencing it but its better to have a vage idea whats on the other side to just run around thinking you have the Truth when you don't

I see true masters are very humble amd modest. Why is that? Like, someone might be a zen master or a guru or even a normal person with a deep understanding of being, but they live normally with others and don't even talk about how awake they are? What if you totally wake up but you can't talk about it with anyone else?

I used to struggle a lot with the idea of "being aware" or just "being". Now with the help of great imagination, I can shut down the thought process and leave my "world made of thoughts". I've learned this unintentionally through mindfulness gradually and I haven't taken any pcychedelic in my life. What I do is imagine a world vividly and with details and just fool around in it for a little bit. For example imagine a different possibility for your life or your future. Then I use mindfulness to completely snapp out of this thought world and become Actual. (Leo's video help me A LOT here.) Then I look around with clear vision and become aware of the big picture around me with its details. I feel like this everytime I go outside. The buildings, the sky, people and cars and specially the amazingly beautiful trees. Then I carefully listen to all the sounds around me, no matter how they sound. That gradual humming sound of silence is a true thought killer. Then I go to the bodily feelings, the feeling of pressure under my feet and my clothes and maybe the wind touching my face. This process of looking mindfully and externally works like a total shut down for my thought process. And when all the thoughts become transparent and soft, the I thought becomes soft as well. In this state, I can look at things that are so normal and ordinary, but be amazed at how it looks, sounds, feels. Like I can pick a cup and look at how beautiful the reflections are or how amazing it sounds when I hit it slowly with a pen. For me, being aware makes this ordinary reality look very animated. It's like a animation, or a video game, or even a mix of sensations and colors with sounds. I hope to go deeper on my contemplation/inquiry using more of this vivid state. What does being aware mean to you?

I see so many people try kriya yoga and claim it's so powerful and useful. I know about chakras (actually they led me to start meditating) but it's been a long time that I avoid spiritual concepts like chakras and astral realms. Because I think them as just ideas and can't take them seriously. And also I don't like chanting mantras. I do all this because it makes me feel like getting into another ideology.I mean my current ideologies are hard enough to deal with Is there any reason to start kriya yoga instead of or with contemplation and inquiry? What is it that it's very powerful?

@Aakash Thanks

@Nahm Damn just listened to them. Amazing