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@tsuki No, I'm not back either, lol. Of course there is no difference between our thoughts and 'other people'. I'm just talking to myself here, right? But then there is a very very tiny distinction ?

@tsuki Yes. Yes. We watch other people (or we decide not to) AND we watch our thoughts about them (or decide not to). Other people might think about us (or they might not) AND we might think about them thinking about us (or we might not).

Understanding the teaching is the form, once understood one can fill the form with emptiness. Emptiness doesn't have to be dark, it can be filled with light. Leo created an interesting form of teaching here ;-)

@now is forever interesting point - I will contemplate ? So far, I have the feeling that of course I will make "mistakes" again, but that is completely OK, isn't it? ? I also have the feeling that some sort of history is in the making. It does feel like an existential crisis, but maybe there is no need to tear down the whole house. Maybe it's enough to move some furniture around inside the house? It feels more and more impressive to watch how this plays out. As long as Atréju can stay calm and reflective, doesn't loose AURYN again and knows that Fuchur is by his side, I'm sure it's possible to give the childlike empress a new name. (But yeah, as I said before, don't believe anything I say!)

@now is forever The bubble is that I'm failing to heal my internal wounds by seeking for the "magical medicine" in the external world. I already felt quite healed before I joined this Forum and now I realize that I wasn't quite there yet. I still felt more responsible for others people's wounds than my own. Even if this insight hurts like hell, I can see it now and I don't think that it has to have an effect on my self-esteem. I still always have a choice. If anything, it gets the chance to grow stronger than it ever was ??

@now is forever My journal just got re-contextualized* - what an arrogant person am "I" forcing "my" ideology onto "you" guys/girls? Oh jeeze, what a bubble "I" created here... Ohhhhh, all this manipulation that lovely ego-minds like to do with all the conceptualizing & mental masturbation. So what's next? Meditation, shutting up, being still.... _______________________________ *which is obviously an illusion within an illusion, lol. No wait, now it's the ego trying to trick itself ? Well, at least it's "just a journal" ??

Are "you=I=we" able to take the perspectives of a man, a woman, a disabled person, a black person, a G/L/B/T person and any kind of "minority"- person? Are "you=I=we" able to see the world out of the perspective of a mother, a father, a child, a grandmother, a grandfather? Are "you=I=we" able to see the world out of the perspective of a narcissist, a choleric & angry person, a depressed person, a dependent person, a mentally ill person, a normal person, a happy person, a lonely person, a person who feels loved, ....? Are "you=I=we" able to see the world out of the perspective of a any political party? Are "you=I=we" able to see the world out of the perspective of someone who would risk their life for something they believe in? Are "you=I=we" able to see the world out of the perspective of someone who doesn't care about much at all? Are "you=I=we" able to see the world out of the perspective of a rich person AND of a person who lives on the street? Are "you=I=we" able to see the world out of the perspective of a religious person (of any kind) AND of a person who calls himself/herself an atheist? Are "you=I=we" able to step in anyone's shoes?

What happened so far: "I" had lovely discussions, especially with @now is forever and @tsuki: "I" never had such deep discussions before, but then again, they were just words... nothing else really, or were they? It felt blissful and then "I" fell deep, very deep (yet again) facing "my" dark sides: Why do "I" dare to post this here? Because you=I=we could learn, watch and learn! (if "you" are ready for it, "I" guess, and if "you" happen to resonate with what "I" write about ;-) So, "I" hope that "I" will never make these mistakes again (let "someone" or "something" trigger "my" ego). The world is ok as it is - only half dragons are dumb enough to try to pick a fight with real dragons. So, "I" faced the nothingness even deeper this time. "I" faced it head on and after meditating the heck out of it, it feels like "I" can walk through the mirror now, hopefully with a bit more grace.

I think I learned enough here to say good-bye. I will check messages, if anyone wants to stay in touch.

@Tom Daniel D I just realized that you wrote an answer to me. Thank you for writing so much! It makes a lot of sense to me actually. Considering the power of collective egos, could it maybe be a better idea to pursue projects "alone"?

How are you doing, @Feel Good? Are you still feeling good about yourself? Look, I don't need to win when I play. Do you?

Indeed ?

Of course I=you=we typically defend ourselves when we feel threathened, don't we? How do you know that I'm not doing the work myself? Are you doing the work? To "me" it feels like we are doing some work together here ?

Most certainly! Keep the insights coming ?

@Feel Good I see - are you here to play or to fight? Do you also suffer from past knowledge? Or why are you going round and round in circles? Uhhh, I love to play, too. ??

@Feel Good I didn't have to contemplate very long until I found some truth in what you are saying. That's the issue with one's shadow - it's easier for others to see than I can see it myself. So, again, thank you for your courage to bring it up or was it deep inner frustration?

@Feel Good I'm here to learn. Why are you here?

@Feel Good Thank you for giving me something to contemplate! Let me know, if you want something to contemplate, too!

Yeah, I have suffered enough... I will stop asking silly questions now. There is no point in deepening open wounds, is there? Ups, I did it again.

@MrDmitriiV Are you able to take your own advice whenever you post something again? So, @Leo Gura where are you? Is there anything left to say?

@MrDmitriiV So, would you have enough "material on hand" together now to start a "The bright side of Leo Gura" thread? (Yeah, I know, I might be asking for too much...)

Yours, too?

@MrDmitriiV Did you learn anything about your dark side, too? ?

@MrDmitriiV So did making this post help your personal development? What did you learn?

Isn't this a very masculine issue - competing who's dark side is weighing more? (Hehe, yeah, I'm in the middle of playing the same game here ;-) @MrDmitriiV What is your goal here? To split the masses or unite them? Is this turquoise behavior?