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yeah Its certainly a tricky thing to experience

@Mason Riggle Now that I think about it, the situation that im actually referring too did indeed occurred a few days after i took LSD. I haven't even connected those dots. hmm? Thanks for that. LSD and telepathy is definitely a thing. Its certainly facilitates the occurrence more. My thing is i notice the anticipation of it happening just going about my normal day. Like im expecting it sometimes. lol

@Kksd74628 Yeah I know, my question isnt directly related to what is being stated but it does kinda branch off to the question im asking separately about it lol

@Mason Riggle Yeah you understand the question correctly. I ask because there have been times where someone knew what thoughts I had just experienced in my own mind with surprisingly great accuracy to the point where It seems as if my own thoughts are perceivable by others, as you can imagine this is rather uncomfortable to deal with. I have also done the same at predicting the thoughts of other people to the point they question how I knew what they were thinking? This goes a little beyond mere cold reading like via external observations. Any thoughts?

So would you say that the same thoughts can be present in 2 people being near one another? Like would someone be able to see your thoughts? How or why not?

Im not against you doing your own research but ill help ya out anyway lol. This sums it up well.

@Gabith Sure, Im glad I was able to help. Stay strong man. Check in on the news about it and kinda play by ear. Focus on You!

Well honestly your still a good distance away from the conflict zone. Do your best to carry on life as normal. Ground yourself internally to handle external circumstance. Theres really no reason to discontinue your project. Your idea of the future, which you don't see, will never be the real thing. You cant predict the circumstances that will arise tomorrow let alot the next 10 years. So your only limiting yourself by settling into false beliefs. Until something happens that becomes a direct threat to your personal progress no need to stop your personal progress. Until its in your direct experience its only concept and imagination from your point of view worrying about it. The fear will pass once you can relax back into your normal routine, Your reacting because this is something new and uncertain. So take it easy, Uncertainty is a feeling, not a fact. Manage the feelings. Suicide only has the appearance of a better outcome than your imagined worst case scenario. Its a temporary fearful thought of avoidance from a situation your not literally in in the current moment, just recognize that. Theres no bombs falling in Belgium and theres no reasons for Russia to advance into that territory. Your not alone, talk to your family and friends, here on the forum as well.

Do you live in Ukraine? If your a civilian in the U.S you dont need to worry about the war. But the other things are your mind fabricating thoughts about your uneasy emotions. Take some time to do something enjoyable. The satisfaction meditation can help you out, and diverting your focus on the things your working on in life. Finish a book you started, work on your goals, fitness goals, financial goals, idk what your life is like or what your doing but it sounds like your overthinking and getting stuck in your thoughts, just recognize they are only thoughts and pay attention to doing stuff till these things pass. Its a quick little potential fix to get you by.

@patricknotstar Your welcome! Its process and takes time. That what will give you something to do to change your mindset, Im not sure if your life consists of only going to work, watching tv, or being on your cell phone scrolling, then rest of the time your sleeping just to repeat the same cycle over again the next day. but I found that more people that live that specific cycle often feel more depressed than those who are doing personal development and making good use of their time. Make sure you have goals.

Focus on the basics. Learn about how your mind works. Integrate Leos earlier videos. I posted an answer similar to how I would answer this question in another post. If you want to check that out. Its kinda a prerequisite way to prepare you for the deeper work.

Love the honesty here, most authentic post i seen in awhile. This work is called "Advanced Personal Development" because it is advanced. So watching the advanced stuff wont help you much until your ready for it. It may help to start with Leos older videos, mainly the ones before he started using the cool thumbnail images. So the ones where its just Leos face. I wouldn't move onto the ones that aren't his face until you've understood all those ones first, which will start to change your thinking. Give your mind time to integrate all those lessons and work from there. They have high potential to pull you out of your depression and transform your mind. Leos "Start Here" tab gives a really great order in which to watch the videos in as a beginner. But ideally you want to be constructing your own process, so watch them in the orders in which are relevant to your life. You need to be taking notes and meditating. It seems the structure of our minds have to have those actions being carried out to gain traction in shifting the mental patterns. My recommendations for order of certain videos to focus on for awhile would be these ones... https://www.actualized.org/articles/grasping-the-illusory-nature-of-thought https://www.actualized.org/articles/build-your-infrastructure-for-success https://www.actualized.org/articles/awareness-alone-is-curative https://www.actualized.org/articles/mindfulness-meditation https://www.actualized.org/articles/meditation-techniques-do-nothing https://www.actualized.org/articles/how-to-master-your-emotions https://www.actualized.org/articles/how-to-deal-with-strong-negative-emotions https://actualized.org/articles/the-35-subfields-of-self-help https://www.actualized.org/articles/how-to-be-a-strategic-motherfucker So to help shift your mental patterns and allow changes in your thinking which is contributing highly to your suffering in its current state, you want to watch each video in order and take notes as you go. You can also watch each one all the way through with focus. Then go back and take notes. Your going to catch things you missed the first time through. One time watching the video wont be enough to integrate it all until your mind gains that traction it needs. First you need to be gaining awareness of your own mind and thought process, those videos should facilitate that to happen if you truly listen to them. This can begin changing the way your mind functions, through applying the teachings and doing the activities and contemplating about them during your day. A growth mindset needs to comes online, and it starts to be able to absorb information more effectively. When it does, you'll notice that your not thinking about your depression and other stuff as much because your gaining interest and understanding of your own mind. Then learning how to use that newer thought process to begin structuring a new way of living your life will put you in a different position of how you think about life and help you make progress figuring out what you want to do with it. You might find that an interest in understanding reality more will begin to grow. Simple additions like diet change and exercise will help you physically feel better and alleviate depressive symptoms and is simply basic healthy self care that will be necessary to integrate moving forward. I hope this advice helps put you on a good trajectory. Myself and others will be here on the forum to assist you if you need it. What you seek can be found here with Actualized.org, just gotta learn how to utilize it to then create it in your own direct experience.

@PurpleTree I tried anirecitam. thats similar to piracetam, It was too stimulating for me too. Like chugging a gallon of coffee lol. Noopept is another racetam but not as stimulating but great for information absorption. I find im able to recall what I learned while on it more effectively than when not using it. its super subtle and but you'll recall the finer details of things, which can be useful when your focusing on retaining specifics.

@Ry4n CDP, Oh yeah? Ok cool yeah ill check that one out! Thank You! What have you experienced, quality wise from it?

@Forza21 Since most of what we fear never happens anyway, you still wanna do it on a day that your not worried about it. The only indicator will be how serious you get about giving it too much importance. How much you focus on the actual idea of the fear. So Set and Setting are highly important. You can trip with a friend to keep your mind company which may facilitate the insight or distract you from it, but also keep someone there to monitor your wellbeing, It seems to me that solo tripping wont show you insights about solipsism easily because it helps to have a person there in direct experience in order to validate it for yourself. So like you need that "other" element in your direct experience to witness oneness to make certain observations about "other" if your taking 2 hits of LSD. At least thats my current understanding of how to see it. But you dont want to sit there tripping in a thought loop by yourself about what you think it means either, if this happens lay down and surrender into it. Open up your body and focus on your breathing, it will pass. Most likely you may even forget all about the idea and have a completely different kind of trip and new realization about something else. Make sure you feel grounded first thats the main thing.

@Forza21 Right and thats pretty much it, there is utility to ego. Then I would assume our thinking about it would change as we progress into our own understanding. Then maybe we will understand what exactly it means from Leos perspective, Leo is at a level that his mind comprehends it in a certain way based on all the experience he has with this work. I think understanding of that kind is incommensurable so you have to experience it yourself at ever increasing degrees. Hearing someone talk about it is not the same as seeing it for yourself. The mind processes it differently.

@Forza21 Yeah I dont think its gonna be something of a way of living. Your not gonna sustain viewing the world like that, Like you cant really function as an individual in that state if other people just mirrored your every move. Imagine driving and everyone wants to turn left when you do. lol. So like its state dependent. Tripping is the only way to fully recognize it. Then you just understand what it is and continue your life normally. These realizations dont have to dictate any differences in how you live your life its only learning something about how reality is. I think our minds seem to attribute more to it than they need to. Thats why Leo had to take the video down which I've listened to, because people are going to attribute a whole lot more than they need to about an insight like that.

Those thought loops can be pretty crazy I been there before, lol Do you think it was actually your mind that was in the thought loop of seeing that? lol

@Forza21 Right, exactly It is solipsistic. Its only after you conceptualize the meaning of the word do your personal feelings about it come online. We gotta stay with the exact moment which is timeless to see it for what it is. Its almost like a still frame or image. In that singular timeless moment all is one. But this moment is infinite, There is No other or Yourself, its before the mind can identity or create those 2 ideas, The mind immediately misses this because we perceive movement and duration of experience, then conceptualize or think about it, but this timelessness is the always NOW which is singular with out the addition of mentation of any kind.

@Kksd74628 I also have watched both of those videos. Thats how I learned about some of the nootropics mentioned, but i been taking some nootropics for years before Leo came out with that video. I rarely drink coffee and my diet is based exactly on that video as well. lol. I have 3 Kriya Yoga books from Leos list. The one is quite in depth but I have not set a good routine with it yet. So like I mentioned im not deficit in these areas your advice is aiming to improve, I have the information about them, I guess what I am truly seeking is a conversation with someone who also has tried these nootropics and hear what they think about them. So I came to the forum for personal reviews by people who I know are doing development work like myself, which i think is more valuable to me than reading something online under product reviews.

@Forza21 Notice that "0 control point." of that experience. That sense you had in that moment, That understanding right there. You'll noticed there is no other and there is no you. There is only the totality of that one moment. Pure Existence! Leo is Identifying with that Pure Existence. Thats what he means implicitly, that is his reference of Identity, the Pure Consciousness, which does not include the ego at that level which is second order. Us listening to someone say it the way he says it will immediately place us one step past that point into conceptualizing our self/ego. Which is exactly why its so difficult to understand.

If you want to prove it to yourself LSD will certainly facilitate. I once was a trip guide for my friend who was new to psychedelics and at one point we mirrored each others movements identically. As i moved my head and arm his was moving exactly like I was looking at a mirror. It totally freaked me out and I had to step away for a sec, I Immediately understood it to be oneness,so then I cam back into the room and things were normal again. So we talked about it and it was cool to share that moment, as freaky as it was, It was never that he wasn't real or an empty suit. "I" didn't have control nor did 'He" have control of our bodies as they mirrored, movement simply happened identically to us, Its more that other people are different versions of yourself. Under certain conditions the difference of versions will collapse.

@Kksd74628 Thank you for the site link, I actually already have an app that does exactly that on my tablet! lol Doing it on my laptop with that site will be put to good use. As I mentioned though, Im not specifically looking to read faster. Just opinions on the nootropics, But I have alot of books from Leos book list id like to finish, they seem like high quality. I find that some of the nootropics help with mental fatigue, as I get tired of reading for long periods of time, as well as they help in retaining the information I read. That was my experience with some of the ones I mentioned.

@Kksd74628 Thank you for the advice, I seen that video before, and use that advice. I have actually done all the things you mentioned. Concentration is good, no issues there. Daily meditation and diet helps with that already. Audible is a great app, I listen to many books on there often, mainly while Im driving or in the gym. I don't struggle with my reading and need to supplement to fix a deficit, I was just wondering what nootropics would enhance it even more than naturally, to take advantage of potential benefits they can provide, So I was just looking for second opinions on the nootropics themselves in regard to reading. I know I don't actually need them but I enjoy taking advantage of using tools. I do however, notice the subvocalizing of the words in my mind as I read, I have heard Jim Kwik mentioned something about that before, it doesn't seem to slow me down reading that way so I haven't tried to not do it, lol. It seems quite automatic as if its not something I can actually influence? Do you know how to reduce subvocalizing?

Theres no way to answer a hypothetical question like that. But to play around with the idea, it seems like consciousness can only change its state. So upon physical death of the human form a state change must occur, You can be in one state, go into another state and come back from that state with absolutely no memory of it. If you ever "Whited out" on 5Me0 this can happen. Or ingest Datura. Thats with imagining being the same "avatar" or "person" across the changes, So chances of recollection of any memory seem highly unlikely if the state change was to completely imagine a new avatar. How ever the opposite may also be accurate because God realization understands the whole thing to be imaginary. So from that state there is only witnessing of consciousness changing states. We dont know if that God realization forgets again in order to realize again, or if the degrees keep expanding, hard to say until you are Fully God Realized.