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I only know that I don't know ?

@Nahm The "I" I was talking about was awareness, not the character. Ok. First it was just awareness, uthe true "I". Then the false I came and says I experienced it. The character wasn't there. Language is a problem. I have to pay attention how to write and describe it better , I re read my post and it's not well written. But, the small I is awareness living it. And being aware of the "experience".... ?

@Nahm I experienced it, for a very short period of time. There was nothing, only awareness. But the ego came back really fast and got so scared as fuck. When the ego came back the idea of a person came back, my character. And he couldn't remember anything, no story of "me", nothing. At the moment I didn't know what was happening, I thought I was crazy. I thought I was dreaming, now I now it wasn't a dream. It was truth and now I am dreaming. Dreaming about being a person and that there's a world separated from me.

@legendary You are welcome!

Existence and non existence are concepts @Nahm

I think that the disciples of Jesus really didn't understand the message. And there's also the problem that is hard for the ego to recognize he doesn't exist. The message got distorted by the egos of the preachers of that time, that's how I understand why did it happened in that way. The message wasn't understood.

@seeking_brilliance Jesus is you because he was so identified with awareness that he talked as THAT, as awareness. I know you got it, but I just wanted to say it hehehe... is so beautiful to have that realization! :-)

Same experience here! Aaron. When I began to listen to God's voice (the real self) one of the things he told me was "The Bible talks about you". That was really deep! Thanks for sharing!!! :-)

Can be ego backslash. Those thoughts about suicide are not yours either. Just let them go too. When you begin to meditate the ego will fight a lot, maybe you are still stuck fighting against the ego. The ego cannot be fought, you only have to observe it and learn his mechanisms to keep you in the matrix. Probably you are crossing what is called The Dark Night of the Soul. That's why it says in the Psalms "Even when I walk through the darkest valley, I will not be afraid, for you are close beside me. Your rod and your staff protect and comfort me." This "walk through a dark valley" is the path of enlightenment that you are going through. You will cross dark valleys to be free.

@kieranperez @legendary I had one psychotic episode long time ago. I was completely acting all my thoughts. I was really what a psychiatrist would catalog as paranoid or plain crazy lol... I said a lot of things that were really true, but I was like yelling, acting crazy and my wife told me that when I talked to her and my daughter my face looked really like the devil. I think the problem is when you don't have any reference in the community about that ego self defense, you can not ground your experience and you are not ready for an ego backslash. IMO. Watch this video on youtube, it helped me a lot to ground myself on reality and to incorporate spiritual experiences much better than before.

Exactly how it feels. And it's a great way to become detached from a lot of BS that goes on running in our mind program/life. Thanks!!!

I mean, like actors... playing our roles. We really don't know what to do, we just reflect on what others do and we respond accordingly with all our processed experiences. But we have to look into us to know what we are going to do next and in others, how others respond, etc... I just had that feeling looking interviews of actors. Everything seems mechanical.

Thanks Nahm, it's good to have a point of reference from like minded online friends, otherwise I would have thought that I was going nuts! Lol... I appreciate your comment!

This feeling is getting stronger and more clear. We are really devils. We act to make our loved ones believe we are victims, we are sad, to manipulate others... OMG. I can see that clearly, in myself of course...

@Anton_Pierre Isn't discussing concepts survival of the ego?

It's good topic for a future youtube video...

@moon777light same here.

@Inliytened1 I think he got it conceptually. But anyway is a big advance for a scientific mind to recognize that.

Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one. --- Albert Einstein

I think is as Leo said, those guys get enlightenment but they don't develop the whole picture. So, they can use enlightenment to make devilish things. IMO.

@mandyjw The only woman that comes to my mind is Evelyn Underhill. Did you know about her? She was a Christian Mystic. @Leo Gura Lol Leo, didn't know about that... hehehehehe...

That would be very boring.

Western society is also a very bad Cult....

It's hard to give an opinion, because if you see what happened with Mooji neutrally trying to be objective, if you see anything positive then you automatically are "supporting a Abusive Cult leader, blah blah blah" and if you follow whatever it is said in the article then you are risking of condemning someone without having direct contact with the community and know if those claims are really true. That makes me sad.