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He didn't say another thing, that I am sure you will find in his saying when the time is correct. But, I feel you need to know. There's no ego.

Ok, and in want do you want to rely if it is not on your real self?

I didn't see the video, it's in my "to watch list" but... what is it to dissociate?

Lol, same thing is happening to me Emerald.

I am beginning to entertain the idea that there's no ego, it's just programming and belief. We need to experience the "I".

If you drop everything, even the idea of enlightenment, what still remains?

It's like a feeling @Will but, be careful because sometimes feelings are like thoughts. The idea is not to "not have thoughts" . It's not give power to thoughts, just observe them and let it go. They are not true, the only true thing is just being. The mind cannot understand that, when you are one with that "feeling" of just being, the true self begins to awake and he will do everything, you really have to do nothing. Don't try to understand it, just be. At least this is in my experience, be one with your experience. Use the mind to solve problems, but not to understand reality.

When you say, ‘Shall I just drop everything to find the Self?' you will then become a somebody who dropped everything to get the Self. So, some form of identity will remain over. Be nobody. If you are nobody then there is no Self to 'get'. You are and have always been the one effortless Self. This you will ultimately discover when you leave believing in 'things' and their perceiver being apart from the one Self. ~ Mooji, Monte Sahaja 2015

When you say, ‘Shall I just drop everything to find the Self?' you will then become a somebody who dropped everything to get the Self. So, some form of identity will remain over. Be nobody. If you are nobody then there is no Self to 'get'. You are and have always been the one effortless Self. This you will ultimately discover when you leave believing in 'things' and their perceiver being apart from the one Self. ~ Mooji, Monte Sahaja 2015

Drop everything!!!!

No way back!

Ok, that's a great argument, thanks!

There are things that can't be answered, I can tell you my idea of what you are asking, but it will be just another idea. Buddha gave some good advice about that and it was that there are some questions that should be put aside. Thinking about it won't solve it, because the mind can't grasp the concept of what's going on in reality. It will always conceptualize, "this is bad" "this is good"... but really. Who knows? Maybe what's bad in this "real three dimensional world" is very bad for the "afterlife". Just trying to You need to drop the idea that you are going to understand. I will suggest you to try to un-know everything.

@99th_monkey Did you try listening to your inner voice?

And where are the good things?

Ok, you win hehehehe

Pretty cool @Shantanu I like your journal. Good work!

Lol

@Mal Which one are your favs? Maybe I should post a thread separately...

Like Mooji says "I dunno" hehehehe

Cavalier perspective or One-point perspective?

If it is me, it must be a pretty monster, cause I am pretty

It is Will, aren't we you always arguing with our thoughts? Who is the one who says "that's me"? It is just a thought. Right? And then... Who says? "no... this is not me, I am something more permanent" Another thought, so we are just entertaining different thoughts... We are all crazy hehehehe... the only difference is we keep certain logic. When you think and think without stop you can go crazy, for real. That's how our mind works. So better not think so much, just feel comfortable with what you are. It's Ok if we just observe the thoughts, but then at some point we will need guidance, we have to learn how to differentiate which are just thoughts and which ones are our true self. And we will be our own masters. Otherwise we will just keep repeating what we have listen around there, we will just change our programming and that's all. The voice will be low in the beginning, but then it will become more clear. About free will, watch this. Very useful. And about listening your inner voice: And one last thing, don't believe me or any of those videos, just try to experience and understand by yourself, the idea is not create anymore beliefs and see reality "as is". :-)

That's really awesome Atom! I wish you well too!!!