Aakash

@Nahm so how do you function at a human level?. I understand the duality in my wording, it was best I could do after thinking it through. When you make a decision are you aware that you should not be aware that you’ve made that decision ? This is at the heart of my very question.

The eye is but an eye and the same goes for suffering. Who says you are damned if you do and damned if you don’t ? “Honey, I'm Home” said preetom to his wife. ? “Honey, I’m home” said preetom to his second wife ? as she smiled back waiting to cook him some beef. Preetom which is your favourite wife ?

@Leo Gura in the book god is nothingness what chapter are you on, i am on chapter 10-12 for sure. I am curious to understand the depth at which you understand nothingness currently. preferably not the answer: its difficult to put my own experience into this linear sequence, just a guestimate is fine, its a rather accurate book you have found

To be honest, I think only you can contextualise the dream personally. ive seen people post their dreams here but I can’t see how a person can get a definitive answer.

@Elham Any spiritual practice, eventually you’ll realise your dream is totally whack and it doesn’t resemble your actual life and your good from there.

@Nahm LOL. This was actually so cute! I loved it.

Great extract bro ??, ring ring who’s there? Happiness calling nice to greet your phone call happiness, now I am happy.

@zeroISinfinity Drop deeper into the ocean, for it contains sharks and fishes from where you see it to secure a safe place. Follow it until you no longer are swimming.

A strawberry eaten by a maggot is perfect A human with a problem is perfect the hand full of dirt is perfect you are perfect Poetry is perfect surrender is perfection THIS is surrender ? yearning will blind thy sight, but even slightless you will yearn for light. So what should be , is that which you seek. What you seek you will not find. Therefore be what it was you were intended to be, with zero degrees of how it should be.

Bad relationships most probably, because people be saving yo ass for no return in the short term. Living by yourself will reap no consequences on others in the short term or long term. There is not escaping the heirarchy either way, hence there will always be a full reintegration at some point of comfortability or whilst not in comfortability.

@possibilities yesss possibilities open up a cartel yourself if your at stage turquoise going to stage coral.

@d0ornokey fine , yes I do because I hate ALL paradigms without understanding their conceptual importance first. The only one I agree with is humans are instinctive animals working off intuition. To be honest I’m not even in beige comfortably yet. My instincts to not get caught in a trap for “survival of myself” is a beige concept and therefore the only way to let it go was to realise you can’t encapsulate reality into any ideology. Thus opening the doors to move up the spiral Hence I do not like turquoise because it doesn’t work off using imagination instinctively. They’re not instinctively god. They’re passive gods. Hence the development of coral imo. Passive gods walking with the bliss. GOOD gods Who are about love and not about destruction. They don’t want to kill some bees but let it go into the wild when it’s in your home. Although this may be my lack of development to understanding the full ramifications of reality. But it will happen eventually- someone may open up a 5-meo drug cartel.

@Preetom Yes Preetom, you are correct. Thank you. ? Yes you are right, my own wanting for the life I envisioned is the reason my almighty concepts are my way. Thanks , it’s okay I’ve given up now. So I look forward to doing the practices and becoming a force of change.

@Preetom ahahahhahaha just make them up really , they’re all as real as each other loooool! ? there’s no distinction difference between love enlightenment and conceptual enlightenment. ? it’s just one consciousness. Which neither of us is completely aware of . Look I’ll make up another enlightenment that exactly as true as what the buddah made up. It’s called Apple enlightenment, eat apples everyday for 20 years and you’ll be an Apple enlightened being the outcomes are different one enlightenment you become an Apple eating master, the other you become a love master. Maybe I should create a religion out of this concept of god. I’m going to tell people that god is an Apple. And that it can’t be revealed unless you eat apples for 20 years straight. OR MAYBE we should create a religion around love ? relativity isn’t just in the domain of rationality my friends. Relativity applies to anything that is not absolute. But the absolute itself encapsulate the absolute. So your left with: THE TRUTH IS: “ABSOLUTE INFINITY “

@zeroISinfinity don’t get it confused, love is a facet! Love itself does not exist or not not exist . Still it must be nice to be shrouded by infinite love! Must be a hell of an experience. Would love to try it one day!

This is what it is saying bhraman is god - non duality creating god - duality god created the illusion of a god. So he created the illusion of a separate god from himself. Which is reality we see now. But it is one and not too. So here it’s talking about different version of god. God the absolute and god the definition by human standards. As you would except it to be written because your mind only understands duality for now. In its purest form of context it is a strange loop. Which states the following: what ever your understanding of “god” from your human vantage point is not the absolute bhraman. So what ever your current reality is NOW is not the absolute. X infinity. The creation process is DIRECT, it’s not a creation in steps. It’s what is!

@Preetom someone who is aware of oneness but doesn’t have the added benefits of enlightenment. Non dual awareness , infinite creativity, pure joy in being, bliss, peace etc .. lol but your concepts become your reality! Because even if you don’t identify with them. They are still entrenched in your life. An enlightened being who is blind, is blind. Literally here’s the only thing you need to understand “infinity” this is the only concept in your life which should have the highest priority. you can create joy, love, peace! And why would you not! Hence it’s not about right vs wrong. It’s always about pros vs cons. You shouldn’t sucker people into enlightenment because it alleviates their pain and say for this reason it is the right thing and everyone should be enlightened or everyone should seek enlightenment for this reason. NO. This is not true enlightenment is. But ofcourse you have to put candy out for the baby to eat, or else it will seek something else in the kitchen. So enlightenment is a win/ win situation and hence it’s so popular with us

@Preetom well I did only say I was conceptually enlightened ?. If you want the truth, there is no joy, love , peace or anything in this reality. These are things we crave as the buddah put it so nicely. I am only explaining it to you. You must ultimately experience it for yourself. Which is I’m guessing what Leo realised when he could not put words against experience in his dpt trip. There was only pure isnesss! Pure imagination! Pure being!

The fact it’s precisely defined ISSSSSSS the reason why it’s not true. It’s the same exact thing as someone saying to you: you should live your life in a way that is fruitful and abundantly filled. Where as you believe that you can sit around all day doing nothing like a yogi. Both are true and both are incorrect. Relative to each other so this enlightenment you “define clearly” is relative to the absolute lol. This is mathematical proof to prove enlightenment isn’t the end as we know it. Why? Because you can’t encapsulate infinity! Enlightenment is an attempt to find god. Not to solve your personal issues. It’s an attempt to understand what’s going on in reality and what it is and encapsulate it. Its just people STOP when they think they’ve encapsulated it and what is this ? THIS IS EGO. Enlightened people are trapped in EGO. And have decived themselves they aren’t. Because their distinctions have broken down. So by default their own self deception is the following: “i am god, god is ego. I have no ego.” This is their assumption their whole reality is predicated on. If they questioned this it would break their reality and that’s why they don’t! It’s not their ego! EGO IS A FACET OF THE ABSOLUTE. EGO DOES NOT MEAN AN INDIVIDUAL ENTITY BECAUSE INFINITY IS ONE THING. INFINITY ISSS EGO. you are god, thinking your human and that have changed to god. This is distinctions all messed up. There was never a you in the first place! So your ego in “duality” is enlightenment. It’s only enlightenment if your aware of how you convince yourself of self deception. Enlightenment is the END OF MAYA REALITY IS DIRECT!

@Preetom ? but you lose your cognition capabilities! That’s why you THINK it’s the end. ??. Your cognition/ mind must become enlightened aswell to be an overall well rounded enlightened person. Bringing non duality back through to duality. Etc.. practicality and pragmatism bought about in your everyday life. Unless your Leo and your a thrill seeker.

@Inliytened1 yes and so it’s a choice, live in duality or live in non duality. Both are still distinctions, so reality encapsulates that. Meaning a) either your cognisance of the truth in your experience b) you are being it currently and I think Leo is switching between both daily. Such as you would if you were doing meditation. It is the only way to find god. Duality and non duality must collapse. Meaning there is not ONE but ZERO. That is what Leo is talking about in his trip with dpt. but again it could extend to infinity aswell and therefore it’s basically thrill seeking and that’s why seekers can’t accept it. Because they’re looking to be caged in. Not that it matters though because there is no right or wrong.

@Inliytened1 I agree the teaching is an experience to prove this following sentence in duality “I am god, I am infinite, and I can not be defined” that is enlightenment full stop. whether Leo becomes the truest god or someone else. Is only another infinity within infinity. Enlightenment itself is another infinity within infinity. However, the consequences of Leo if he does succeed will ripple through reality. Who knows what could happen lol non the less, this is only mere speculation.

The issue is you need an experience of having no ability to define reality and this comes with cognition errors in your reality. To resist these cognition errors is true being. The man with no perspectives, is the winner. Not the man who is from the non dual perspective. You are right though if you don’t teach it. There is no need to speak about it.

@Preetom the reAson you are not understanding is because you are using language to fight your case bro. Bhraman does not exist or exist. Bhraman is simply a term for that which is. And what is.... can’t be put into a perspective, vendanta alike. Hence winter soldier is not actually enlightened. He’s basically experiencing imaginary bliss and peace, likewise all other enlightened beings. all there is is consciousness. Put simply just don’t try to define it and you’ll come closer than you ever have to the absolute than an enlightened being. What this means is the following: repeat after me: anything I believe to be true... it’s not true.. but because I imagined it myself... it is true. Likewise what I am doing now. What you don’t get about Leo is Leo is imagining god into existence. Meaning it will happen. And therefore Leo’s experience is real. Compare the realness of which is higher. Is not possible, because that’s creating distinctions! But relatively speaking, his imagination of god is more accurate than enlightenenment. MEANING it more accurately represents non duality than the current framework for non duality itself I.e enlightenment.

So in the time, I’ve considered my position and responsibilities on the forum and have decided I’ve learnt all knowledge there is to learn aswell as techniques. So I can say I’ve completed my mission good luck to everyone self actualising! And thank you Leo for the knowledge I’ve been looking for my whole life! Godspeed everyone!