Aakash

Likewise dissolution of ego is not about seeing it with x-ray vision. It’s about becoming egoless with love. In this way enlightenment is not binary but effort- based. Its as Jesus said. Love thy enemy for they are you even an enlightened being has ego. An enlightened master reduces their ego to minimal. There is no escaping dualities. Transcending dualities is understanding both sides of duality individually. Why one can not 100% exist and the other can’t 0%. It’s the meaning of going full circle. Reached 85-90% that now I’m at 0% with it. There is degrees of everything because it exist because of love. So a teacher has to teach love but in these terms. But you have to acknowledge yourself that there are degrres of everything otherwise you won’t understand what god is

@zeroISinfinity Yes pure consciousness is indistinguishable from void in words. But how do you then become it. The answer is states of consciousness. There is a difference between having x-ray vision and touching an electromagnetic wavelength physically

When you loop around and two is infinite lol! Then you by definition must be infinite. The only thing you could do to scale a model of infinity is create a strange loop within a strange loop. Model scale size version. You know literally infintismal: infinite in ratio. God is self-deceptive precisely because it is unconditionally loving. To counter self- deception. You would have to create a strange loop of self-deception that can extend to infinity over time. This is ultimately why I say spiral dynamics is itself the most important model in the universe. Ps: even I wasn’t smart enough to figure this one out. So it’s not like I think your wrong. I’m just saying think about it or don’t think about it.

@Key Elements yeah that’s what I inferred. Understanding of how to get back to ego is understanding of how to be one and two. But this segment is no different to other teachers. I’m saying from my understanding at current. That the ideal ego is 90:10 no survival to survival. This is unconditional love. As your still a finite body, limitations still apply. So think about it, is your action unconditional love or is it that your still within a greater unconditional love ? I see what your saying and if this were true shizen yung would be omniscient, I’m not saying he is or is not. It’s like I said, I don’t know his teachings. I’m asking you

@Key Elements @zeroISinfinity How does one get to the end of something that is infinite ? So what your saying is pure consciousness is beyond any degrees of conscious. Kinda like a “all conscious is one thing” So your saying there’s no states of consciousness. It’s just what is. Isn’t that everything being one and not two ?

@zeroISinfinity Okay, now what about the depth of consciousness ?

@zeroISinfinity So what about consciousness ?

@zeroISinfinity Let me phrase like this. Can you become more loving than you already are ?

@Joseph Maynor it’s interesting, I do not know what context to interpret this from. In relative sakes, what would outwin here a) giving you an answer that satisfies you b) giving an answer that makes you grow c) giving you an argument for why your wrong D) showing you the error in your answer E) telling you you are right, when you are not F) picking out certain points in your argument and giving a counter rebuttle to specific parts instead of the whole thing H) don’t talk about it because you got it and let the person be I) don’t talk about it and let the say something to make the person happy J) don’t talk about it and say something outrageous h) don’t talk but give out some wisdom. j) realise their answer is love and say an answer which has more love in it. Which is the best one ?

@Joseph Maynor it’s difficult to explain but it’s not loving it because it exists. It’s loving it as it exists.

@Leo Gura lol yup it is

@Key Elements Upgrading metaknowledge means your meanings on meanings on meaning of shifting words around into different sentences for me. It’s not a very good explanation. But it will have to do. I didn’t exactly know you were talking about awakening people. I was just talking about general fields of study i didn’t get what he meant by being shot with an arrow that went through time and space. What it sounds like was he basically went back to his physical body after realising it’s all one with all the “understanding” of god ? This is the only inference I can make. If you must know. I have not. But after today, it’s dawning on me that people don’t actually do the process of thinking. Let me explain like this. If a facet of god is self - deception and it’s infinite. How do you escape it all of a sudden ?

@Inliytened1 yeah I can imagine language doesn’t do it justice. Who is in charge of your thinking and decision making ?

@Inliytened1 So what does infinite intelligence feel like? If you had to describe it ?

@Inliytened1 does oneness mean enlightenment at this point ? Yeah sorry, I thought this through. Yeah I repressed the non -dual side of it on purpose because I didn’t know what the ramifications of enlightenment were. Its like I’ve been saying I’ve only been making duality into one. Rather than using non-duality to make it one. Does this make sense ? I’ve been bringing non duality into duality. Not duality into non-duality or both simultaneously

@Serotoninluv ahah that’s cool, it’s trippy without a NOW to ground in

@Inliytened1 bro lol, my reality is flipping between dualities without stabilising lol. Can you give me the solution if you understand ?? the only solution is to embrace absolute infinity and basically proclaim I am god here. Or remain as enlightened self nothing. How did you merge them ? It’s an impossibility because you are both and they are indinguishable . This is what I was trying to get at the trinity. That you have to ultimately choose one and therefore all three types of enlightened beings are correct. There are different versions of the highest truth and connection is “god”

@zeroISinfinity I understand what your saying, I’ve already inquired about this. And what you want to do is become the god beyond absolute infinity - non-existence. And this is an impossibility. Because only existence exists. The god beyond absolute infinity like I keep telling everyone is unprovable. It will let you become absolute infinity but it will not let you become it. It is you and you are not it completely. It’s as I’ve said it’s an incomplete - complete model. What you asking for is an impossibility sorry to tell you. You would be wasting your time for no reason, reaching for something that is an impossibility. Your best bet is to leave love alone and go for absolute nothing. Simple. It’s as I’ve said enlightenment itself is within existence. It’s just the highest truth possible across all boards of relativity

This is dumb, there is no difference between enlightenment true self and consciousness. But my reality can’t fix it into one and two at the same time? Why is this ? I am god. I don’t need enlightenment to become god. Like I literally am god. But why can’t my meta knowledge and direct experience put it all together in union.

@Inliytened1 shit yeah that’s what I meant lol, but I wasn’t sure if you’d agree to it. So I never said it. Wait re-read my edit and give me your opinion!

@Inliytened1 don’t get it twisted you could kill a human being if you were enlightened at stage purple. Which is exactly what would have happen if you piss off a tribe in the amazon jungle. If you managed to figure out a way to actually cultivate so much love, that it was love that let them kill. Then that’s quite cool, even for an enlightened being this is quite rare. You would have to be totally self-less. Anyways my point is, the highest thing an enlightened being can do is not awaken to world or advance consciousness. The highest purpose of an enlightened being is to embody god as consciousness. Gain all god-like qualities. This is the meaning of being a saint that Jesus mention. That Buddhist decide to leave out. It is not needed in certain traditions because they decide not to take their responsibility for being god. Although I’m not sure about this at the same time. Its neither a true or false statement because there is nothing to embody. So I’m unaware of how the dynamics work myself. But it goes exactly as follow does your human take responsibility for being god. That’s it, that’s how it can have an omniscient awakening with enough work as a conscious god. Still I’m not sure about the logistics of this. But you would have to be persuaded by someone else who initially said “take responsibility for yourself being god” and the person would say yes or no. You know the normal way. But your still detached it’s unsure because by these standards I would be enlightened. But the paradox is I am already enlightened. And therefore your skipping steps itself by having an enlightenment at stage coral. Basically if this statement was true. Enlightenment itself would be a lie. And all that exists would be consciousness. Going full circle, it justs backwards. LOOOOL which would make me within the 5 top most enlightened beings in the world ???. If this was true because you would eventually loop around here. There’s no way this can be the case, the reason it’s a possibility is because I’ve experienced enlightenment. Wow my mind has entered the biggest strange loop ever. I’m merging realities together. Basically it’s dumb if enlightenment was itself a lie, then I would be right back here now. Without a grounded sense of reality. Shit, I would be omniscient! I would be fucking omniscient LOOOOOL! This is exactly it! This is it! This is what I meant!

@zeroISinfinity you can create what ever reality you want. If your enlightened it doesn’t matter what your human does. There is no right and wrong for even enlightened being. They don’t need to advance consciousness. If they want to, they can.

@Serotoninluv ahaha should we send your human into a mystical experience. Have you ever experienced eternity ? Not enlightened eternity, like actual eternity. It’s the trippiest trip you’ll ever experience

@mandyjw do you want to hear a funny irony. your body is always functioning at optimal rate. Well trying to. And is. It’s you who’s the stupid one making it unbalanced ? , it’s trying to help you under all circumstances. And your just saying fuck you dawg

@Serotoninluv yes this is nice. I never have and never will like the idea of a now. Maybe because I spent a lot of time in the future ?