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@Jack River nah don't worry about that one , i know its not a journey since your changing your everday lense of the world. i expect the journey so the say to be pretty much a life time use so sharpening it constantly like a tool (for reference sake)

@Serotoninluv thanks; now i know the journeys only starting- i'm gonna need a bigger rope (pun intended) loool!

@Jack River ahaha maybe i do have some work to do; im psychologically trying to figure out what you said and its not working!

@Serotoninluv sorry i was more blindsided by the fact, that i'm only at step 2 or 1 looooooooool! it caught me completely off guard. yeah i definately smell something, emptiness is literally emptiness loool!. alright ill go out and try that.

@Jack River yes i would say there is love in both conditions, love in the truth sense, not conventional sense. because love is your being, the undivisable thing. it can't be is or is not. its true love? this is in my opinion, what do you think?

@Serotoninluv sorry i also didn't get that either but yes i am trying to figure out the parameters of emptiness and what is / is not emptiness specifically so far i have infinite/ freedom / love/ happiness/ peace / bliss/ all one/ still / silent /

@Jack River sorry i didn't get that, i'm not actually sure thats why im asking, is love something you can really feel 24/7 loool! or is it the interconnectedness of life that is the love

Thank you all i will start changing some things now

my guess they get lost in the mesh of blackness and trying to transcend or being put in a trance as opposed to identifying what is that thing that feels like myself. i've always wondered why this would happen myself

but is it that becoming love is being, being emptiness is love. theres no actual emotion. just the intimacy of the interconnected in oneness , that is the love?

@Shin embody the emptiness?

what is the primal wound?

okay maybe i phrased it wrong lool! i should have said what is enlightenment? like what does it mean to be an enlightened being? its like theres was literally no such thing as enlightenment at all like it was just a word someone made up to find buddah nature

you know im really confused here, if everything is empty. then what are we trying to do here loooool! what does it even mean to become an enlightened being by taking psychadelics and or other method. like im actually so lost right now.

Literally the you that thinks its you, is not you. but the you that is in the moment of silence , is contemplating its own isness and that is not you. then you close your eyes and go meditate and you ask, ohh who is the one who is aware. I am the one who is aware but that is not you. then you go further and inquire that the thing that thinks it is you is contemplating if it is you, it is not you. but the thing your missing out on is that you have to become that very thing that is awarness, contemplating falsely. then when you become awareness itself without needing to contemplate who or what you are. you have reached literally the most obvious of answers, you being the awarness was the awarness you were seeking for. then you need to mental masturbate, ironicially to prove conceptually how this is you, i have hands, no i dont have hands. I have thought, i don't have thought, i have mind, no i don't have mind. you literally. you literally are attempting to back ration, how ironic is that! and we think were forward rationing. because in truth you are always pure awarness at all times your just not conscious, or to say- you just don't know its you. Seriously then you realise ohh if i had just sat down and meditated for a couple of years on it, i will come to the true realisation without the need to constantly create mind noise, that the very thing i was searching for is right infront of me when i close my eyes. Its so obvious. its actually so amazing how obvious it is , that it eludes all of us, including myself and it still continues too. moral of the story: is don't make the same mistake i did dont do so much conceptual work and ignore the benefits of meditating or some other form of practice, that can only yeild results needed that only that technique can apply. It actually saves so much falsehood and delusion!

@Jack River what you can have different experiences that allow you to guide to to the same place

its just infinite intelligence doing its work in my opinion, sychronicity as the topic is going around

psychosis is really just saying your reality is not different to those around you in my opinion. i wouldn't even go as far to say your psychotic. it just feels like that.especially doing this work, we all atleast feel like once in our lives we are going through psychosis. i myself included. i would just say ground yourself in the present moment and do what you really need to do (actualise), this will ground a fundamental, for like 3-4 months and when you look back in hindsight you will atleast have the feeling you've moved forward and have more clarity on the issue as well as direct experience.

@Preetom yeah but i can't seem to maintain the presence of void, pure awareness, nothingness @Nahm it really is amazing at having one reference point, one moment where it reveals itself to you and your like i have it, and i want it again, how do i get this. its definately because it reveals itself to you, in my opinion. gotta keep trying until you get a breakthrough @Joseph Maynor you in this context is third person referring to me, or us or we, all of us. ahh man when i tried to meditate again. that question completely blocked my path, as if it were stopping me from the thing revealing itself to me because i'm trying to conceptualise this is what it is and this is what it isn''t, instead of just it being what it is completely

@Rilles awarness feels like its still happening in my head still , since i haven't got a feel of expanding it too much yet. but this awareness/perception is occuring everywhere. its omnipresent. i haven't experienced this in my direct experience and what it feels like, just inside my head, since its the only place i can access it lol