Aakash

i am in pain i am not in pain i am suffering i am not suffering both are in of itself false notions to truth but you will ultimately feel the pain and not the suffering by choice is "which came first is it the chicken or the egg" not the name of the game we are all trying the play here today

you should use it as spiritual practice, go past the pain, what is the awareness currently behind it? is it the one who is suffering and in pain pain and suffering in my opinion are one in the same thing

ill just give you a quote i heard once that i found very true you are the average of the five people you are closest too. with most of us here on this forum, i find the people around us aren't as conscious as we are, so they aren't able to make the same decisions we can from our knowledge and education. Therefore you have to make them for yourself and stick with them yourself and just see where it leads. normally, it will just go the way you don't want it to go. but hey, lool its just because you understand some things about happiness etc.. that others are still looking for in their own ways.

@Shakazulu i've been exactly where you've been once, probably much worse. My advice: just stop it completely- you don't really get anything out of it in the end . but its up to you

nevermind actually

@winterknight emptiness is emptiness why is there something and not nothing? there is not something at all, everything is nothing and that can not be put into words question: if i laugh at someones misery; because nothing is real when apparently an enlightened person is meant to cry alongside them or feel the pain of that person as they are hurting and cry with them would that be immaturity and ignorance as its not compassionate? but then knowing the truth i help them out after, is that still ignorance?

@Shadowraix what was your experience of it, so far? if you don't mind saying it that is. people obviously like to remain sincere and nice about it but i'm just curious for joyful reasons.

what if emptiness - empty of fullness, absolute emptiness - empty of the word emptiness, making it totally empty of anything , as in does not exsist nothingness- nothing if something absolute nothingness- did not exsist in the first place, was not even there, but is there as something. void - an area with nothing inside except itself absolute void - does not exsist inside void doesn't exsist - exsistance from non exsistance absolute non exsistance - does not exsist at all none of these words can actual encapsulate what it means to be itself non exsistance because of their counter parts, what if what was actual was that: none of it exist, i don't mean one second was there and next minute does not, i mean the most rawest nihilistic way that you can put non exsistance, without the use of time, space, location, form, colour, isness , wasness, thereness, sexyness, literally without anythingness. see i don't mean draw a concept in your minds eye about what it is because its simple the very thing doesn't exsist. lets do practical in actuality pick up a can of your favourite drink (can even be water) , look at it as if it doesn't exsist in front of your vision right now trick: you have to image yourself that you don't exsist aswell so the perceiver subject/ object vanishes but this is not the point lol... everything comes form the thing that does not exsist at all (nothingness) but you can't imagine nothingness its always dualistic so what is non exsistance - the being in everything the emptiness itself! that emptiness creates form so i mean lol the very thing you hear. see , smell , everything literally is just the formless as the buddist say emptiness is form and form is emptiness btw i'm not actually contemplating, i'm just sharing my results lol!

if everything is nothing, well the better word here is empty. empty of anything at all. Then where is perception occuring? is it perhaps that perception is not occuring then ; if everything is one , there is no truly one person percieving then that means that perception is also a belief because theres no such thing as perception. as everything is one. so it also means i'm not sensing anything either, the mechanisms of life are just turning in emptyness or actuality. there is then a self after determining dualistic factors. is hot, is cold , is nice , is not nice but really emptiness is emptiness; life is just occuring but this is in your being, your pure awareness thoughts in the same way are just thoughts, they are not happening in emptiness we are giving rise to them with our mind really the true emptiness is no thoughts being then and then if thoughts do come, we say it as it is truth (non egoic if non duality has been met) everything is emptiness therefore not real it is emptiness playing the character in the moment maybe even synchronicity and infinite intelligence

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@Jack River nah don't worry about that one , i know its not a journey since your changing your everday lense of the world. i expect the journey so the say to be pretty much a life time use so sharpening it constantly like a tool (for reference sake)

@Serotoninluv thanks; now i know the journeys only starting- i'm gonna need a bigger rope (pun intended) loool!

@Jack River ahaha maybe i do have some work to do; im psychologically trying to figure out what you said and its not working!

@Serotoninluv sorry i was more blindsided by the fact, that i'm only at step 2 or 1 looooooooool! it caught me completely off guard. yeah i definately smell something, emptiness is literally emptiness loool!. alright ill go out and try that.

@Jack River yes i would say there is love in both conditions, love in the truth sense, not conventional sense. because love is your being, the undivisable thing. it can't be is or is not. its true love? this is in my opinion, what do you think?

@Serotoninluv sorry i also didn't get that either but yes i am trying to figure out the parameters of emptiness and what is / is not emptiness specifically so far i have infinite/ freedom / love/ happiness/ peace / bliss/ all one/ still / silent /

@Jack River sorry i didn't get that, i'm not actually sure thats why im asking, is love something you can really feel 24/7 loool! or is it the interconnectedness of life that is the love

Thank you all i will start changing some things now

my guess they get lost in the mesh of blackness and trying to transcend or being put in a trance as opposed to identifying what is that thing that feels like myself. i've always wondered why this would happen myself

but is it that becoming love is being, being emptiness is love. theres no actual emotion. just the intimacy of the interconnected in oneness , that is the love?

@Shin embody the emptiness?

what is the primal wound?

okay maybe i phrased it wrong lool! i should have said what is enlightenment? like what does it mean to be an enlightened being? its like theres was literally no such thing as enlightenment at all like it was just a word someone made up to find buddah nature

you know im really confused here, if everything is empty. then what are we trying to do here loooool! what does it even mean to become an enlightened being by taking psychadelics and or other method. like im actually so lost right now.