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@Serotoninluv that makes no sense from a logical perspective, as it would do. maybe the theme is unity as in like you get to look at the unity from different perspectives, as there is no overarching single perspective

@Jonty infinite doesn't know the finite in the way we understand the finite, i.e this is a chair, this is a mouse and keyboard. the infinite only knows itself as the only thing in reality that exist. your misunderstanding is: you mistake the word IS for UNDERSTANDING the infinite IS everything without any exceptions then your finite mind is creating the duality of understanding vs not understanding infinity and whether it can or can not. the answer is my first line of this reply

@Serotoninluv it would be along the lines of an organism called life, reality, it has to stand alone and not in duality as systems would be duality (such as inflow/ outflow etc) so what are your turquoise level experiences that you can say that its turquoise level mystical experiences? but this is the reason i don't like mysticism being embedded into turqoise, it dilutes the line between turquoise spiral dyanmics (logical) and real non duality, which is no lense. hopefully @Leo Gura you can give some guidance about this thin line

@Serotoninluv so the underpinning nature of turquoise is basically spirituality in a sense, because its the harmonizing nature of one and zero (non duality) this is my current understanding so if we analyse leo's business for a moment, its states that everything in reality is one, but the lenses he shows is of a yellow thinking perspective but because he has shown the interconnectedness between everything as a whole it is basically turquoise. so what is that one integrated whole in your opinion ?

the practical guide to enlightenment what if true non-duality was just being nothingness being human , nothingness being anger, nothingness being happy, nothingness being sad, nothingness being me, nothingness being you, nothingness being itself, nothingness being something, nothingness being nothing, nothingness being total, nothingness being words, nothingness being time, nothingness being future, nothingness being past, nothingness being non duality, nothingness being non duality what if relaxing and being is the only thing that you can do but ofcourse you can't because you always have the problem that there has to always be someone doing lol, and this is incomprehendable to an ego because they are the finite self but what if? you are just being in the literal sense, no connotations, no annotations just being hence you are already enlightened you just aren't conscious of it.

@TheAvatarState thanks i got the context, but i'll watch it anyway- i was just thrown off by chattering finch and water fly ahahah! that my interpretation went out of wack ahah! i always get the easy things wrong and the hard things right nothing new for me under the sun here

a confusing poem when your trying hard to consciously implement meaning but it was very creative and lovely theres only one line i didn't get whats a chattering fince and waterfly like is finch a bird ahah!

@dharm4 i don't see people claiming they're enlightened, to be honest its forbidden to say it anyway on this forum for x number of reasons namely, people will ask you to prove it and there is no way,

@TheAvatarState no it makes complete sense! you are those things in the end! so laugh away at yourself looool! i might start doing the same, since i've gone complete full circle on this journey if you get me, i've arrived at this place 2 times before and deluded myself twice over! hows that for karmic energy and banter! thats an infinite joke right there! i just got your picture, it makes full sense and is quite good, might find my own picture now

@Inliytened1 it so ironic! that believing that there is one letting go is an obsticle itself, but letting go is the only way to get to the truth. i guess this is what is meant by the seeker is the one who is in his own way.

@TheAvatarState LOOOL! so this is what they call the avatar state! then why do you write such things like: AHAHA I'm not gonna lie, if i'm right then its quite creative lol!

@How to be wise but what if fear and anger aren't bad? what if it's pure nothingness BEING anger and fear itself, there in itself is no doership/ something done / or something happening. there is only an illusion of something happening ?

@How to be wise lool i finally think i get it now, your creating a duality where there is none (i the doer am letting the doing do- this is a duality) lol, you are the being itself - so you will think that the soup with piss in it is bad lol

the indivisable is being this is where my self-inquiry has led me. at all times you are nothingness itself. its like the whole point of enlightenment is to reliquish your doership or seperate self true or false? i'm not actually looking for an answer, there is nobody who is asking the question. i just wanted to express my excitement and so i hope you can engage in a brace the question with the full might of your being. and express it in which ever way you feel like you can express it, with your being. like the jello lol, it was a good expression of it. you are inside the jello, but you can not see how you are it.

@TheAvatarState i just came to the realisation that we may this all backwards, everything is nothingness and nothingness is everything its hard to hold both statements in your end at one time, but when you realise they collapse on eachother, it always leaves you with the same thing being.

@Joseph Maynor bare with me, i just had a realisation, about exactly what you just wrote before i came online, its so weird that i can't express it fully, its just that isn't being enough, we are all trying to find lofty ideologies and meaning behind the word enlightenment but at its purest levels, you are nothingness and therefore being itself, when you are sad, you are being sad, when you are happy you are just being happy. what need to write a whole book on enlightenment when the simple truth is that all there is is being. whether some people find the pill to swallow that it may not be your life that you are living- it doesn't change the fact that you are being. relaxing and being is all that there is. its like the whole point of enlightenment is to give up your sense of doership and relish in your true self, which is all but fancy terms, you are still going to be the present moment itself. no attachment to anything is fine, everything is fine. its like the more you do this, the happier and peaceful your meant to become, thats fair to say, but it doesn't matter if your experience was positive or negative, you were still the same thing always being.

or anyone else who has the book for that matter, what chapter are you on?

@ajasatya for sure, stopping seeking for a while has given me tremendous relaxation, it is still part of the spiritual pursuit, just in a different way. i find that when i feel there is a need to conceptualise and understand one more piece of information, just the "one more piece of information" it stops you from relaxing. However, finding that there is no information that can get you there besides disciplined and repetitive method without mind is soothing otherwise it thinking launches your mind into a frenzy chasing its own tail.

more ego survival dynamics , any decision hedged against logic will not serve you any truth but it can be practically applied to your life as any other model, so its up to you take the counter-intuitive move or take the intuitive move.

@Inliytened1 out of interest, did you expect it to happen or was it totally random?

@ajasatya @TheAvatarState I have relapsed and am finding it quite peaceful, but ultimately the single enlightened state is what the pointers are towards yes, but the scriptures and the duality bought about from different traditions can not lead you to enlightenment directly, they are all teoltlizing so to speak . the simplicity is: that everything is nothingness there is also no depth to it either, it may seem like it from the perspective of going from not knowing to knowing. just a friendly reminder hence the reason buddah reached perfect enlightenment. but what your speaking is true all religions start from the need to express the nothingness and hence end up creating fluff in different manners

just sounds like your recycling your mind thoughts in your dream. you already know that it's to eliminate falsehood and grow awareness?

no concept matches the true depths of emptiness and basically killing yourself to sacrifice the subjective experience is the goal. therefore, if its true that the self only reveals itself to the true self itself, then its simple there's no way to get there all that can happen is a staged breakthrough which you don't have any control of. therefore you must give up control does that mean that the breakthrough is dependant on pure luck and the choice of god itself, or will it definately happen if i do self-inquiry for 50 years?

@Jack River its the deconstruction of the human psychee by scientific standards, this is the three compartments they break down psychee into