Aakash

@Highest i was just laughing at the fact there is no luck is all

@Highest looooooooooool! FUCKING GOD! <3

@Highest i see, yeah i guess this is the 0th step taken. ahhwell ill just give it my all, and hope that it comes to me one day lol i see so your surrender was the medium type

i'm trying to surrender to my identification with everything and just basically me being the one in control of my life

@Highest i'm not sure that i follow to be honest.

literally if its doing it on its own, i might aswell just give it up but i'm confused how to! i mean i feel like i'm on the last hurdle, my whole spritual life leading up to this very moment ahah

it is both, when collapsing duality, you have to realise they are the same exact things so uniquely same individual , ahh tough break man, if thats the case, then stick by your answer and i guess, just put all your resources into becoming enlightened, its obviously the thing you want.

yeah i didn't mean you specifically, i know there is no you doing it , i meant as the witnessing consciousness, how do you go about your life lol, yup that certainly makes sense, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh i just can't figure out a technique for surrendering,

@Highest i see so i have to radically change my view, i can't half-ass it anymore and simply know that its not real, so what type of activities do you do, would you mind explaining how you are able to do them as witness consciousness i can't seem to blend the two, like theres discrepancies in my witness times by a couple of hours (loads maybe 8-10)

@Paul92 yeah i get that, just follow that hint, but still you are the one who's incontrolled in an unenlightened state, so i would just see the wisdom behind the words taking 100% responsibility for your life, this way your depression will go in a while. if your able to replay the scenarios and understand why the break up happened, it has less of an effect on you. for me it took me 1 years to heal from mines, but i'm better off for it.

yeah thats what i mean, SO how do you view your thoughts, do you read them in sentences for example, i am happy today, because the sun was out and then repeat it to yourself, i just thought of the sentence: i am happy today, because the sun was out also does the world exist to you anymore , because it shouldn't. i realise it exist to myself, which is a delusion.

ahh dude, thats exactly how i started a path, and got onto leo's page, watch his video about breakups in which he said once its done, its done, it would be counter-productive for your growth if you went back because you would be repeating the same mistakes over again. but i feel ya, all you can really do is just sit with the pain and notice how your ego took control of the situation, don't blame yourself , just take 100% responsibility for your life and your actions, this way you don't become the victim of your tragedy. just keep doing the practice, it'll take your mind of the break-up.

@Highest question: do you see the world from a 3rd person perspective as if everything is happening and playing out as it should be.

@TheWaterRuss wow dude, spreading interesting techniques! i hope they work for people

self-realisation is the knowing of yourself as god the qualities of god are merely only words... they can be claimed as absolute, when constructed into an infinity model, i would say that is a modelled theory of infinite variables with a constant but in truth they can't be talked about because anything statments made about it, is not it but you can still say it has qualities like infinite love, blissful, peaceful in it the end these are only hollow words you can only be the very thing that is your true self thats consciousness, perfect unity consciousness. the thing that IS: the whole of reality itself

@Highest yeah it is bro, it looks so beautiful aswell even though its all an illusion :'), you'll get there! i'm sure you'll find a way to get better and better at surrendering until you won't even remember your own name, because youd have been in true nature for too long.

@Highest Nice, thanks for giving me some confirmation on the edge of the world, its given me new encouragment to go forward

@Highest its actualising god's movements, but i'm not sure past this because i haven't even stabalised in the edge of the world yet, so i'll take it from there when i get it. were literally talking about 100% possession here

@Highest yeah i'm actually secretly super happy about it ahaha, but i couldn't sustain it, so i have to keep going back and thats probably going to take a couple of years to get down. it must feel pretty normal having done it for 14-15 months now, or are there still sometimes you find it difficult to sustain?

but thats what death of experience would be, it would be all disindentificiation with I thats definately the end goal, because the person being conscious of the whole of reality is still having a subject/ objective experience, they're still in duality. or are they not because in duality purely because they've given up the identification with reality, ahhh i can't explain what i mean very well

ohh i became conscious of it, i was outside of it, hence call it on the egde of the world. looking at the 3d ball would be a hallucination if that happened lol

@Highest the glimpse of being at the edge of the world. that is what i'm talking about it was like if you could squeeze the whole of reality into a 3d ball then looking at that 3d ball as its playing in real time or the eternal moment is the awakening i had

i'm not sure i'm using the right words but lets assume buddah reached perfect enlightenment, which means he gave up 100% of identification, a) we can assume that knowledge has nothing to do with awakening b) we can assume that all I must be given up giving up the I in this case, would also mean giving up the I OF the observer... i mean your already at the edge of the world so that could only mean one thing death lol complete death of experience itself, final liberation